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Release date: 19 October 2012
Style: Extreme power metal, Progressive folk metal

Rating:

8.5 | 850 votes

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Disc I
01. When Time Fades Away
02. Sons Of Winter And Stars
    1 - Rain Of Stars
    2 - Surrounded By Darkness
    3 - Journey Inside A Dream
    4 - Sons Of Winter And Stars
03. Land Of Snow And Sorrow
04. Darkness And Frost
05. Time
06. [hidden track] [Mediabook & Mailorder edition bonus]

Disc II [DVD] [Mediabook bonus]
+ Time I Live Rehearsals At Sonic Pump Studios
+ Licks & Tricks
+ Sons Of Winter And Stars - Project Demonstration
+ Photo Gallery

Disc III [instrumental CD] [Mailorder edition bonus]
01. When Time Fades Away
02. Sons Of Winter And Stars
    1 - Rain Of Stars
    2 - Surrounded By Darkness
    3 - Journey Inside A Dream
    4 - Sons Of Winter And Stars
03. Land Of Snow And Sorrow
04. Darkness And Frost
05. Time

The biggest surprise of 2012
Top 20 albums of 2012: 5

Review
Lyrics (5)


Line-up
Jari Mäenpää - vocals, guitars, keyboards, bass
Teemu Mäntysaari - guitars
Kai Hahto - drums
Jukka Koskinen - bass

Guest musicians
Markus Toivonen - choirs
Heri Joensen - choirs
Sami Hinkka - choirs
Olli Vänskä - choirs
Mathias "Warlord" Nygård - choirs
Jukka-Pekka Miettinen - choirs
Mikko "Ilmarinen" Salovaara - choirs
Alpha Valtias Mustatuuli - additional growling


Additional info

Release dates:
  • October 19: Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Finland, Norway
  • October 22: North America, UK, France, Belgium, Netherlands, Spain, Denmark, Portugal, Poland (+ all other European countries not mentioned in this list)
  • October 23: Italy
  • October 24: Sweden
Formats:
  • Limited Mediabook (hard cover, wide format) CD+DVD
  • Limited Mediabook (hard cover, wide format) CD+DVD + Instrumental CD of Time I, Certificate (limited to 500 copies, exclusively available at Nuclear Blast)
  • Limited Mediabook (hard cover, wide format) CD+DVD + Signed photo card Jari Mäenpää (limited to 1000 copies, exclusively available at Amazon.de)
  • Limited Mediabook (hard cover, wide format) CD+DVD + Wintersun logo shirt gray/black (exclusively available at Levykauppa Äx)
  • Limited Mediabook (hard cover, wide format) CD+DVD + Shirt (black) (EMP exclusive)
  • CD Jewel Case + Shirt (Nuclear Blast USA exclusive)
  • CD Jewel Case
  • Blue vinyl (180g vinyl in gatefold including poster)
  • White vinyl (180g vinyl in gatefold including poster. Strictly limited to 200 hand-numbered copies) (exclusive at Nuclear Blast mailorder)
  • Digital download
  • iTunes digital download with Time I booklet

Staff review by
Baz Anderson

Rating:
7.5
One of the most highly anticipated albums of the last decade; Time I finally ends the eight year silence, but was the wait worth it?

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Mehdi Taba - 16.11.2012 at 00:11  
Rating: 9 1st track is awesome !
Stoyz - 22.11.2012 at 20:18  
Rating: 7 I like this album because of the melodic association there is in every single song. It's less "hard" thant the first one, but it's really interesting.
The only thing I don't enjoy very much is the lenght.
Wes - 26.11.2012 at 22:22  
Rating: 10
Written by Lustful Maid on 25.11.2012 at 20:55

Can anyone tell me what the hell is this abum trying to express ?
A new genre ? Folky Space Monkey Metal ?
The first song was awful, a Chinese folk music combined with space metal. I did not like this album at all !


Thanks for rating something you would never listen to in the first place. Do you even like early Ensiferum or Wintersun? If not I'm sorry you haven't learned yet.
fanapathy - 27.11.2012 at 20:10  
 
Written by Death_95 on 20.10.2012 at 00:19

This might be a stupid question but I never really got what people mean by the 'overproduced' term? What does it mean?


I'd say for example if a melody is played on 5 octaves, the same chords are played on 8 synths with slight different effects/settings, things like that. It just doesn't make a difference. Rhythm that doesn't make sense, like throwing in lots of random time signature changes in an otherwise steady pattern just to make a unique riff, throw in 3 bass guitar tracks to try empower the sound, etc. Have a quadruple solo with harmonics for no reason when the root solo is fine and sounds better on its own. Things like that is how I'd interpret it. Whether this album does that a lot, I'm not sure as I gave it only a few listens because I like to listen to guitar riffs and otherwise real instruments with a more authentic sound
Death_95 - 27.11.2012 at 23:10  
Rating: 10
Written by fanapathy on 27.11.2012 at 20:10

Written by Death_95 on 20.10.2012 at 00:19

This might be a stupid question but I never really got what people mean by the 'overproduced' term? What does it mean?


I'd say for example if a melody is played on 5 octaves, the same chords are played on 8 synths with slight different effects/settings, things like that. It just doesn't make a difference. Rhythm that doesn't make sense, like throwing in lots of random time signature changes in an otherwise steady pattern just to make a unique riff, throw in 3 bass guitar tracks to try empower the sound, etc. Have a quadruple solo with harmonics for no reason when the root solo is fine and sounds better on its own. Things like that is how I'd interpret it. Whether this album does that a lot, I'm not sure as I gave it only a few listens because I like to listen to guitar riffs and otherwise real instruments with a more authentic sound

Thanks man!
fanapathy - 28.11.2012 at 17:10  
 
Written by Lustful Maid on 28.11.2012 at 16:39

Written by fanapathy on 27.11.2012 at 20:10

Written by Death_95 on 20.10.2012 at 00:19

This might be a stupid question but I never really got what people mean by the 'overproduced' term? What does it mean?


...if a melody is played on 5 octaves, the same chords are played on 8 synths with slight different effects/settings, things like that. It just doesn't make a difference. Rhythm that doesn't make sense, like throwing in lots of random time signature changes in an otherwise steady pattern just to make a unique riff, throw in 3 bass guitar tracks to try empower the sound...


One thing I don't lke about internet is - People always like to bullshit like an expert without under supervision, and the mob follow.
For Christ's Sake, I don't know where did you copy this explaination, it was stupid. You didn't know music theory at all ! Octave and number of guitar are not related to "Overproduction".
Overproduction is a very formal word to describe the sound of an album is overly "touch-up". If Heavy Metal's sound effect is overly done it would become very "electronic". For example, sounds very tight, too much unnatural consistensy in the beats. Generally very much like disco music. I would say Judas Priest's all Remaster Albums are Overproduced ! but still acceptable.


This is how I've interpreted it, it's not copied from a definition. There are several albums that have been referred to as "overproduced" which has nothing to do with sounding electronic but having lots of unnecessary tracks which is what I'm referring to. If you're going to do an insulting post like this, at least provide sources.
Array - 28.11.2012 at 17:47  
Rating: 10 Professional listener:

fanapathy - 28.11.2012 at 21:22  
 
Quote:
Written by Lustful Maid on 28.11.2012 at 17:30

This is how I've interpreted it, it's not copied from a definition. There are several albums that have been referred to as "overproduced" which has nothing to do with sounding electronic but having lots of unnecessary tracks which is what I'm referring to. If you're going to do an insulting post like this, at least provide sources.

Then your interpretation was definitely wrong.
Overproduction is caused by the direction (sound engineering) of a music producer in a recording studio. I don't say everybody hates it, some even like the exta tight effect, but professional listeners surely hate it.
Overproduction is a very common term in studio production. If you still think "which has nothing to do with sounding electronic" then have nothing to say.


* (....but having lots of unnecessary tracks which is what I'm referring to...) I can't believe that you said this. This was really laughable.


I'm not derailing this further as you clearly don't understand what I mean, PM me when you reach puberty if you want to discuss this subject.
Wes - 28.11.2012 at 23:54  
Rating: 10 "Unsung Hero" a 9?

edit: Thanks Alloy that picture is hilarious, I had completely forgot about that movie. Wow.
UnspokenTriumph - 02.12.2012 at 09:21  
  Great album
BoxCar Willy - 02.12.2012 at 20:24  
Rating: 5 This thread is hilarious.
chrisscrewball - 03.12.2012 at 11:08  
Rating: 10 I wasn't initially sold on Time but after a couple listens it really started to grow on me. I just saw them at House of Blues La and I was expecting the show to be good but it was way beyond anything I could have expected. They played the whole album almost straight through! I've been to a lot of shows and everything about this show was incredible. The crowd was waaay into it. Probably the most fun I've had at any concert, ever. I just changed my rating from an 8 to a 10
Aebsi - 03.12.2012 at 23:47  
Rating: 6 Hehe it's completely reverse for me after first few listens (4) it's quite good, but now it's just boring save one song "Sons of Winter and Stars", for me it's the only note worthy song
M C Vice - 05.12.2012 at 09:31  
Rating: 8 It was a good little EP.
R'Vannith - 05.12.2012 at 13:18  
Rating: 7
Written by Lustful Maid on 25.11.2012 at 20:55

Folky Space Monkey Metal


I can only dream that this will become a thing.
hershadow - 07.12.2012 at 16:01  
Rating: 9 Im really not sure of the technicalities of production but it is quite obvious in their album. Regardless, when I listen to it especially on the Sonic Studio... I only hear magnificence! It is the conclusion of my musical search. This is music for me. Its a new style and it's something that I personally would indulge.
Sword_Chant - 07.12.2012 at 23:03  
Rating: 10 Imo it is a rarity for a band to release an album these days to such a depth or effort. To me it remains the metal album of the year. I believe some people think differently, well if you don't like it then try some other metal bands out, but I will continue listening to this
errorcode99 - 19.12.2012 at 20:55  
Rating: 8 If this band went on the 70000 Tons of Metal cruise, the cruise would have to change its name to 70000 Tons of Cheese due to this album's cheesiness.
Very fun album nonetheless.
Vikcen - 21.12.2012 at 23:50  
Rating: 9 At the first listening of the album, i have to admit, that my first impressions was: What is this shit?! At first it was difficult to get used to this sound, but while I was listening more and more the album, i was tuning the sound in my audio equipment (high bass, and reducing a little the treble, usually I have the treble to the max, in my car, and in this way you separate the different instruments more, specially in this album, but i even get best result in the pc Windows 7, with audio driver 64 bits) together to my ears that was getting used to this sound gradually, i highly recommend to play with the tuning of your audio system's equalizer to get optimal sound, and finally i can say now i like very much the new album of Jari, to my ears when i listen the whole album i feel as if i was listening an instrumental work of classical music, a work very difficult to compose and mixing this multiinstrumentalist monster, with a great effort that is undeniable, no doubt the process was extremely laborious, and surely this album is an example of technological innovation, how the current technologies can allow something of this musical density, so i repeat, tunes it well with the equalizer, if you want to hear all the performances of this musical wonderful piece, that on the other hand i have to admit some of these performances can be difficult to hear. Comparing this album with the first, is clear that you can see two different styles, but finally i prefer the more metal style of the first album, and the melodies on the first were best inspired artistically.
JunN_Vai - 27.12.2012 at 09:03  
Rating: 10 WOW, this discussion is .... is.... is... very ..... hhhmmmm...... what I want to say is..... awful..... strange....., yes, since the first album is great (that everyone want to say) and high expectation for 2nd album/EP while waiting in a long time
MetalSpider - 27.12.2012 at 16:49  
Rating: 9 I love the album but I'm finding that it's not something I listen to often in comparison with the original or a lot of other albums that I've been listening to lately.
Vermoorden - 03.01.2013 at 14:56  
Rating: 10
Written by Wes on 28.11.2012 at 23:54

"Unsung Hero" a 9?

edit: Thanks Alloy that picture is hilarious, I had completely forgot about that movie. Wow.


I laughed too. Unsung heros is barely a 7.
JÄY - 07.01.2013 at 01:01  
Rating: 10
Quote:
Written by Lustful Maid on 06.01.2013 at 11:38

I laughed too. Unsung heros is barely a 7.

Funny. Only this site underrated Unsung Hero, overrated Time I. We laugh at each other.

The feeling this site has toward Unsung Heros is similar to most http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/ensiferum
theFIST - 07.01.2013 at 02:15  
 
Written by Lustful Maid on 25.11.2012 at 20:55

A new genre


Written by Lustful Maid on 27.11.2012 at 12:37

obviously 0 creativity


had no idea such a compromise was possible
opeth771 - 09.01.2013 at 05:24  
Rating: 8 So many people coming to bands page just to start trashing and hating on the band's page to start a bashing war with fans of the band... This is so pathetic... It is all about taste and if you don't like it, good for you, but if I like it, I like it and you won't change my mind.

To me, Sons of Winter and Stars has to be the most EPIC song ever recorded and don't ever tell me it is not creative or missing originality because you will obviously be the biggest troll ever.

As for Ensiferum, I am a huge fan of Ensiferum and liked all the albums. But Unsung Hero, whatever the hell that is supposed to be, to me, it is the worst album I have listened to from a band I like. Just as bad as Sonata Arctica's albums after Reckoning Night.

I agree that the other songs on the album are just OK and don't really stand off, but what you must realize is that Jari decided to cut Time into two parts so he could release the first part earlier because of the fans had waited too long. For me, Time I and Time II are more EPs than an albnum.

Let's wait for Time II, but I hardly see how can any future songs can ever match Sons of Winter and Stars!
BoxCar Willy - 09.01.2013 at 06:33  
Rating: 5
Written by theFIST on 07.01.2013 at 02:15

Written by Lustful Maid on 25.11.2012 at 20:55

A new genre


Written by Lustful Maid on 27.11.2012 at 12:37

obviously 0 creativity


had no idea such a compromise was possible

Although I fin this album extremely dull, I have to admit, you got him there.
theFIST - 09.01.2013 at 16:04  
 
Written by BoxCar Willy on 09.01.2013 at 06:33

Written by theFIST on 07.01.2013 at 02:15

Written by Lustful Maid on 25.11.2012 at 20:55

A new genre


Written by Lustful Maid on 27.11.2012 at 12:37

obviously 0 creativity


had no idea such a compromise was possible

Although I fin this album extremely dull, I have to admit, you got him there.

don"t really like it either, but notice that much thought went into it
Zaphod - 09.01.2013 at 20:33  
  This thread is hilarious, keep it coming.
musikaxtrema - 12.01.2013 at 15:42  
Rating: 10 Best album of 2012 and one of the best ever in my opinion. So intense and passional.
Cristi - 30.01.2013 at 14:28  
Rating: 8 The same thing like the first album (compositional speaking - less variations) with one tempo. Waiting for Time II. Hope for the best!
SWAMPL0RD - 05.02.2013 at 08:55  
Rating: 10 Pretty much this is what I was expecting. I grew up listening to lots of COB, KALMAH, Ensiferum, etc. Many people think the melodeath genre has gone stale, but it's still my favorite, and Wintersun are at the top of their game this go around. Can't wait for part two.
Marcel Hubregtse - 05.02.2013 at 11:57  
 
Written by SWAMPL0RD on 05.02.2013 at 08:55

Pretty much this is what I was expecting. I grew up listening to lots of COB, KALMAH, Ensiferum, etc. Many people think the melodeath genre has gone stale, but it's still my favorite, and Wintersun are at the top of their game this go around. Can't wait for part two.



Jusy such a shame that all the bands you mentioned don't play melodeath at all They all play a more extreme version of power metal, nothing to do with melodeath.
SWAMPL0RD - 05.02.2013 at 15:59  
Rating: 10
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 05.02.2013 at 11:57

Written by SWAMPL0RD on 05.02.2013 at 08:55

Pretty much this is what I was expecting. I grew up listening to lots of COB, KALMAH, Ensiferum, etc. Many people think the melodeath genre has gone stale, but it's still my favorite, and Wintersun are at the top of their game this go around. Can't wait for part two.



Jusy such a shame that all the bands you mentioned don't play melodeath at all They all play a more extreme version of power metal, nothing to do with melodeath.


Ah, I stand corrected
LeKiwi - 09.02.2013 at 01:52  
Rating: 10
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 05.02.2013 at 11:57

Written by SWAMPL0RD on 05.02.2013 at 08:55

Pretty much this is what I was expecting. I grew up listening to lots of COB, KALMAH, Ensiferum, etc. Many people think the melodeath genre has gone stale, but it's still my favorite, and Wintersun are at the top of their game this go around. Can't wait for part two.



Jusy such a shame that all the bands you mentioned don't play melodeath at all They all play a more extreme version of power metal, nothing to do with melodeath.


Not quite, Ensiferum are extreme folk and Kalmah have undeniable melodic death influences.
Alex Fenger - 12.02.2013 at 21:40  
Rating: 3
Written by LeKiwi on 09.02.2013 at 01:52

Kalmah have undeniable melodic death influences.

Really? Such as? Kalmah, Ensiferum, and COB each play extreme power metal, pretty much no melo-death influence at all
Vombatus - 12.02.2013 at 22:35  
  Most would say Kalmah has melodeath influences... well, at least most websites do (including this one), reviews and whatnot.

I think there was a topic about extremepower/melodeath for all genre-pickiness fans, gave good insight about it.
Alex Fenger - 13.02.2013 at 16:57  
Rating: 3 I take that back. I can hear the death metal influence in Kalmah. Listening through Swamplord again and there are definite death metal influences
AngelofDeth - 03.03.2013 at 01:41  
Rating: 6
Written by Alex Fenger on 12.02.2013 at 21:40

Really? Such as? Kalmah, Ensiferum, and COB each play extreme power metal, pretty much no melo-death influence at all

I dont really see the big deal in calling those bands melodeath. Sure if you wanna be technical they are extreme power but everyone from where Im from just uses Melodic death as an umbrella term for these bands, its just an easier term to use when talking casually.
Lord_Regnier - 03.03.2013 at 02:09  
 
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 05.02.2013 at 11:57

Written by SWAMPL0RD on 05.02.2013 at 08:55

Pretty much this is what I was expecting. I grew up listening to lots of COB, KALMAH, Ensiferum, etc. Many people think the melodeath genre has gone stale, but it's still my favorite, and Wintersun are at the top of their game this go around. Can't wait for part two.



Jusy such a shame that all the bands you mentioned don't play melodeath at all They all play a more extreme version of power metal, nothing to do with melodeath.


I know people on other forums who would argue with you that bands like COB, Kalmah, Ensiferum, etc are melodic Death Metal.
However, I think they are wrong and I agree with you. When I hear those bands, the music reminds me a lot of 90s Stratovarius, only with some blastbeats and semi-harsh vocals thrown in.
Not heavy enough to be labelled as Death Metal, Imo.
Rhiannon - 13.03.2013 at 14:09  
Rating: 8 I love this album, just like the previous one. After the long wait and computer problems (if there were really), etc. I was expecting a disaster, but it was a pleasant surprise. Ok, first the songs sounded like a synth-mess, and overproduced, but after a few listens I realized that they are actually really good. My only problem is that it's so short, and we only got half of the album But money rules, I guess.
TyR-Metalmaeniak - 26.03.2013 at 17:47  
  Compared to their first album this is a joke ... dunno why but I have a strange feeling about the actual albums of the metal world that all have a sense to popularize their stuff. Underground FTW
JÄY - 03.04.2013 at 04:56  
Rating: 10 Finally has to bump it up to 10....
RealEyes - 17.05.2013 at 21:05  
  Too much melody 8.3-8,4
Stunning Cactus - 29.07.2013 at 00:59  
Rating: 8 Who's going to see them during their tour?
Spanishkiller - 08.08.2013 at 17:31  
 
Written by RealEyes on 17.05.2013 at 21:05

Too much melody 8.3-8,4


I definietly like the new style. At least Jari is doing something different form most bands. That is why I like this album.

Anyway it looks like Time 2 will be more melodeath-stylish...
Vikcen - 12.08.2013 at 16:29  
Rating: 9 I saw them on live recently, and i have to admit that the new songs sounded better.
master 666 - 28.09.2013 at 02:49  
  Wwoooooooooooooooww
essbee - 16.12.2013 at 14:22  
Rating: 5 After listening to it again, the instrumentation is not that bad but it still sounds like the gayest album I have ever heard, wow. Sons of winter and stars is the epitome of gayness.
dr devil - 15.01.2014 at 10:04  
Rating: 10 Rating : 10 awesome 4 ever.
God Alone - 08.02.2014 at 14:31  
Rating: 1 One of the few 1s I'll ever give. If you want to torture me, there's no need to skin me alive; just lock me in a room, put this album on and my brain will slowly burst out from my ears.

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