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Release date: 19 October 2012
Style: Extreme power metal, Progressive folk metal

Rating:

8.4 | 887 votes

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613 want it


Disc I
01. When Time Fades Away
02. Sons Of Winter And Stars
    1 - Rain Of Stars
    2 - Surrounded By Darkness
    3 - Journey Inside A Dream
    4 - Sons Of Winter And Stars
03. Land Of Snow And Sorrow
04. Darkness And Frost
05. Time
06. [hidden track] [Mediabook & Mailorder edition bonus]

Disc II [DVD] [Mediabook bonus]
+ Time I Live Rehearsals At Sonic Pump Studios
+ Licks & Tricks
+ Sons Of Winter And Stars - Project Demonstration
+ Photo Gallery

Disc III [instrumental CD] [Mailorder edition bonus]
01. When Time Fades Away
02. Sons Of Winter And Stars
    1 - Rain Of Stars
    2 - Surrounded By Darkness
    3 - Journey Inside A Dream
    4 - Sons Of Winter And Stars
03. Land Of Snow And Sorrow
04. Darkness And Frost
05. Time

The biggest surprise of 2012
Top 20 albums of 2012: 6

Review
Lyrics (5)


Line-up
Jari Mäenpää - vocals, guitars, keyboards, bass
Teemu Mäntysaari - guitars
Kai Hahto - drums
Jukka Koskinen - bass

Guest musicians
Sami Hinkka - choirs
Olli Vänskä - choirs
Mathias "Warlord" Nygård - choirs
Jukka-Pekka Miettinen - choirs
Mikko "Ilmarinen" Salovaara - choirs
Markus Toivonen - choirs
Heri Joensen - choirs
Alpha Valtias Mustatuuli - additional growling


Additional info

Release dates:
  • October 19: Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Finland, Norway
  • October 22: North America, UK, France, Belgium, Netherlands, Spain, Denmark, Portugal, Poland (+ all other European countries not mentioned in this list)
  • October 23: Italy
  • October 24: Sweden
Formats:
  • Limited Mediabook (hard cover, wide format) CD+DVD
  • Limited Mediabook (hard cover, wide format) CD+DVD + Instrumental CD of Time I, Certificate (limited to 500 copies, exclusively available at Nuclear Blast)
  • Limited Mediabook (hard cover, wide format) CD+DVD + Signed photo card Jari Mäenpää (limited to 1000 copies, exclusively available at Amazon.de)
  • Limited Mediabook (hard cover, wide format) CD+DVD + Wintersun logo shirt gray/black (exclusively available at Levykauppa Äx)
  • Limited Mediabook (hard cover, wide format) CD+DVD + Shirt (black) (EMP exclusive)
  • CD Jewel Case + Shirt (Nuclear Blast USA exclusive)
  • CD Jewel Case
  • Blue vinyl (180g vinyl in gatefold including poster)
  • White vinyl (180g vinyl in gatefold including poster. Strictly limited to 200 hand-numbered copies) (exclusive at Nuclear Blast mailorder)
  • Digital download
  • iTunes digital download with Time I booklet

Staff review by
Baz Anderson

Rating:
7.5
One of the most highly anticipated albums of the last decade; Time I finally ends the eight year silence, but was the wait worth it?

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Ruin - 20.10.2012 at 14:00  
  This is nothing compared to their first album.Nothing.
They should have waited one more year and release a full length Time.
Erik M. - 20.10.2012 at 15:51  
 
Written by basquetal on 20.10.2012 at 04:27

For people who are saying that this only has 3 musics, remember that this is only the first part of the album, yet lack the Time II.


Which is exactly why I'm not going to buy this album until there's a 2CD-pack of Time I & II.
LordHypnos - 20.10.2012 at 16:10  
  Did anybody notice that this album has fewer blast beats in comparison to the debut?
Rhaz - 20.10.2012 at 16:30  
Rating: 8 I was prepared to be greatly disappointed, but gotta admit I really liked it and I'm excited to see them live for the first time in 2 weeks !
however, I would have preferred a full release even though SoWaS and Time are decently long tracks
moe5512 - 20.10.2012 at 17:13  
 
Written by LordHypnos on 20.10.2012 at 16:10

Did anybody notice that this album has fewer blast beats in comparison to the debut?

Jari said in an interview some years ago something like this: "Last album was maybe 60% fast-40% slow. TIme will be 60% slow and 40% fast"
LordHypnos - 20.10.2012 at 17:19  
 
Written by moe5512 on 20.10.2012 at 17:13

Written by LordHypnos on 20.10.2012 at 16:10

Did anybody notice that this album has fewer blast beats in comparison to the debut?

Jari said in an interview some years ago something like this: "Last album was maybe 60% fast-40% slow. TIme will be 60% slow and 40% fast"

Oh, I see.
Vasil de Shumen - 20.10.2012 at 18:09  
Rating: 6 40% Blind Guardian + 40% Rhapsody + 20% symphonic metal standards = BOREDOM
Dinruth - 20.10.2012 at 18:54  
  I don't understand that so many people claim that there are only three songs .. why? just because the other two are instrumental? do none of you appreciate classical or baroque music? almost everything from that epoque is instrumental..
Sojgenske - 20.10.2012 at 19:14  
Rating: 10 Edge of Sanity's "Crimson" album lasts also for only 40 minutes, contains only 1 song in which several parts are repeated 2 or 3 times and nobody seemed to complain so much about it

"Time I" is definitely the best release of 2012 for me ! Thank you Jari
Dave Cerdo - 20.10.2012 at 20:09  
Rating: 5
Written by Dinruth on 20.10.2012 at 18:54

I don't understand that so many people claim that there are only three songs .. why? just because the other two are instrumental? do none of you appreciate classical or baroque music? almost everything from that epoque is instrumental..

Well, the first song is an average/poor typical intro and Darkness and Frost is... just for fill another 2 minutes. Two boring minutes. Reminds me a lot to Angtoria's The Awakening. And of course, this is nothing classical or baroque
And truly, the first song could easyly be part of SoWaS (I think that really it is); and the fourth part of Time. Soooooo three songs!

Written by Sojgenske on 20.10.2012 at 19:14

Edge of Sanity's "Crimson" album lasts also for only 40 minutes, contains only 1 song in which several parts are repeated 2 or 3 times and nobody seemed to complain so much about it

"Time I" is definitely the best release of 2012 for me ! Thank you Jari .


Crimson is much more elaborated music than this. And where could we find a song that is not repeated at least two, three or four times? 98% of the songs are built this way. intro, verse, bridge, chorus, verse, chorus.... bla bla. Mix it thosand ways and you build a song
Ellrohir - 20.10.2012 at 20:30  
  Now it made its way to top albums all time...my gosh...where this ends?

anxiously waiting for the staff review
!J.O.O.E.! - 20.10.2012 at 20:43  
Rating: 5
Written by Sojgenske on 20.10.2012 at 19:14

Edge of Sanity's "Crimson" album lasts also for only 40 minutes, contains only 1 song in which several parts are repeated 2 or 3 times and nobody seemed to complain so much about it

"Time I" is definitely the best release of 2012 for me ! Thank you Jari

Yes but Crimson I is an unmitigated masterpiece, whereas this is mush and fluff at best
Boxcar Willy - 20.10.2012 at 21:21  
Rating: 5 Array is defending this as if it was his mother who made it
!J.O.O.E.! - 20.10.2012 at 21:32  
Rating: 5 Incindentally any album can be under or overproduced. Both are valid terms that carry well-recognised connotations. There are indeed standards and constants in each field of music.
!J.O.O.E.! - 20.10.2012 at 21:42  
Rating: 5 It's not really a case of that though. I don't understand why suddenly two very descriptive and relatively specific terms have suddenly lost all their value.
Boxcar Willy - 20.10.2012 at 21:45  
Rating: 5
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 20.10.2012 at 21:42

It's not really a case of that though. I don't understand why suddenly two very descriptive and relatively specific terms have suddenly lost all their value.

Because it's an album he "loves" that your bashing, if it were anywhere else it would still be a valid way of describing sound.


Also, I still need to hear this.
Dark†SymphonY - 20.10.2012 at 21:46  
Rating: 8 The intro into Songs of Winters and Stars was hugely promising, but the rest of the album then became little disappointing. AND only 40 minutes long. For now I am rating it 8/10.
Ahmed Mohamed A - 20.10.2012 at 21:48  
Rating: 10 The only people who complains about this album are just jealous fanboys who are pissed that their favorite band isn't ranked first in charts!
!J.O.O.E.! - 20.10.2012 at 21:48  
Rating: 5
Written by Ahmed Mohamed A on 20.10.2012 at 21:48

The only people who complains about this album are just jealous fanboys who are pissed that their favorite band isn't ranked first in charts!

^Pure logic right there. Makes perfect sense.
@gent_-_orange - 20.10.2012 at 21:49  
Rating: 5 really?
Mr. Doctor - 20.10.2012 at 21:56  
Rating: 5 Logic.

I can't find it here. Whether it comes from reasons to why people don't like it or some weird explanation about a "meaningless" word that is actually perfectly valid to say when it comes to describing music. Language revisionism is a funny thing

Oh well... I'll search for logic in another thread.
Zaphod - 20.10.2012 at 23:38  
Rating: 7
Written by Boxcar Willy on 20.10.2012 at 21:45

Also, I still need to hear this.

You'll hate it, but you probably already knew that
Andreas - 20.10.2012 at 23:48  
  I'm not a Wintersun fan (but I might pick up their first album when I see it for €5 or less), but I love reading this topic.

Also a funny thing: I noticed people acting all pretentious and such about this album. But if the music is so deep, why do so many people rate it 10 as soon as they are able to? Ah well, maybe those people are just way more intelligent than I am

Written by Vasil de Shumen on 20.10.2012 at 18:09

40% Blind Guardian + 40% Rhapsody + 20% symphonic metal standards = BOREDOM

I would actually dig that.

Written by Ahmed Mohamed A on 20.10.2012 at 21:48

The only people who complains about this album are just jealous fanboys who are pissed that their favorite band isn't ranked first in charts!

If there's one thing I've learned from the charts on this website, it would be that it makes people behave like morons like voting down albums that threaten albums they like. People tend to take that list too seriously. And you don't seem to be so careless about it either...
Bad English - 21.10.2012 at 01:10  
  Just tryd it I was expected it to be like this, I dont remeber 1th album so well, I listened it beck in those days , but this was OK,
Cemetary Angel - 21.10.2012 at 01:41  
  Absolutley loved the album Jari's clean vocals are so much better than on wintersun, shame they didnt adopt the heavier approach i was looking forward too. However they've done an awesome job nonetheless the album grew on me so much especially Sons of Snow and Stars
loved it
Sojgenske - 21.10.2012 at 13:21  
Rating: 10
Written by Dave Cerdo on 20.10.2012 at 20:09

Crimson is much more elaborated music than this. And where could we find a song that is not repeated at least two, three or four times? 98% of the songs are built this way. intro, verse, bridge, chorus, verse, chorus.... bla bla. Mix it thosand ways and you build a song

Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 20.10.2012 at 20:43

Yes but Crimson I is an unmitigated masterpiece, whereas this is mush and fluff at best

Written by Nightfall on 20.10.2012 at 21:24

You must be deaf.

I didn't talk about the music itself but more about the reactions like "oh there are only 40 minutes", "oh there are only 5 tracks", "oh there are only 3 songs",... I don't understand these kind of comments.
LordHypnos - 21.10.2012 at 15:07  
 
Written by Dinruth on 20.10.2012 at 18:54

I don't understand that so many people claim that there are only three songs .. why? just because the other two are instrumental? do none of you appreciate classical or baroque music? almost everything from that epoque is instrumental..

Well, I do understand. When I was about to headbang, the album ended! Now seriously, doesn't this album give you a sensation of incomplete, like, making you want more of this stuff? Unlike KOTSK pt1 or 2 from Helloween, this is VEEEERY incomplete to me. Oh yeah, I DID like the instrumental parts (When Time Fades Away became one of my favs).
restartmylife - 21.10.2012 at 16:30  
Rating: 9 Epic-folk metal this is I think. Nice album with soft instruments sound
Boxcar Willy - 21.10.2012 at 16:43  
Rating: 5
Written by Sojgenske on 21.10.2012 at 13:21


I didn't talk about the music itself but more about the reactions like "oh there are only 40 minutes", "oh there are only 5 tracks", "oh there are only 3 songs",... I don't understand these kind of comments.

Well a lot of people here judge albums based on the whole experience of it, length usually isn't that big a factor, though sometimes it can lose and album a point or so. Personally I don't really car, but I can see where these people come from.


It's like paying to go see a really good movie, but it ends after 40 minutes.
Uldreth - 21.10.2012 at 16:50  
Rating: 7
Written by Boxcar Willy on 21.10.2012 at 16:43

Personally I don't really car

But you really bus!
Boxcar Willy - 21.10.2012 at 16:52  
Rating: 5
Written by Uldreth on 21.10.2012 at 16:50

Written by Boxcar Willy on 21.10.2012 at 16:43

Personally I don't really car

But you really bus!

SamuelSanchezAlvarez - 21.10.2012 at 18:55  
Rating: 8 This upsets me, I was waiting for more.
Hawkk44 - 21.10.2012 at 19:14  
Rating: 10 Actually worth the 8 year wait. Holy shit.
AngelofDeth - 21.10.2012 at 20:40  
Rating: 6
Written by SamuelSanchezAlvarez on 21.10.2012 at 18:55

This upsets me, I was waiting for more.

I agree. Its decent, but its way to thick and it is terribly produced for a professional release. Jari shouldve brought in a co-producer to level things out.

Sons of Winter Stars has interesting parts but as a whole it is just a mess of a song. I do really love Land of Snow and Sorrow and the title track is great as well, but we shouldnt have to wait 8 years to just get 2 great songs..
AngelofDeth - 21.10.2012 at 20:51  
Rating: 6 Compare Jari's intro to Whispered's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLeHUE9DB-U
Wes - 21.10.2012 at 23:20  
Rating: 10
Written by Hawkk44 on 21.10.2012 at 19:14

Actually worth the 8 year wait. Holy shit.


LeChron James - 22.10.2012 at 01:03  
  Judging by the disproportionately high ratings for this, I can see no one else found this mind numbingly boring like I did. That's unfortunate.
Death_95 - 22.10.2012 at 01:15  
Rating: 10
Written by LeChron James on 22.10.2012 at 01:03

Judging by the disproportionately high ratings for this, I can see no one else found this mind numbingly boring like I did. That's unfortunate.

Give it time (no pun intended). I didn't like it at first too.
Scrawn37 - 22.10.2012 at 08:17  
Rating: 8 Like everyone, I was highly anticipating this release after their fantastic debut. The three songs here are certainly enjoyable, but what I really loved about their debut was the guitar solos and guitar work in general and that has certainly taken a big step back here. The use of symphony is nice as I happen to be a fan of it but I would have loved to hear some more intense instrumental work. The length of this album is another issue for me. Three songs and two instrumentals as an intro to two of them is not enough, the album therefore does not offer as much variety as the debut. Hopefully Time II will be a more epic experience.
AngelofDeth - 22.10.2012 at 09:34  
Rating: 6
Written by Guest on 21.10.2012 at 22:16

Compared. Barely nothing in common.

They are both oriental-influenced symphonic intros by a metal band. Seeing as that is a pretty obscure thing, that is a good amount in common.
Varegan - 22.10.2012 at 13:21  
Rating: 6 Millions of layers takes an eterninty for my ears to handle all these mess, urge for perfection's driven them to "obsession for perfection" and the result is overly polished perfection, I'll give it a 10 because they did all these mess for a 10 or maybe a 15.
Ellrohir - 22.10.2012 at 15:39  
 
Written by LeChron James on 22.10.2012 at 01:03

I can see no one else found this mind numbingly boring like I did.


you must look better, bro

tbh i cant think up any other example of so much over-hyped nothing as this album...i would rate it 6 for objective qualities and then half this number for all the bullshit around...but i only rate albums i have physical copies of them, which is not this case and wont be unless someone gives it to me for free...so you wont see my "3" here
Risto - 22.10.2012 at 15:54  
Rating: 7 The first three tracks are rather enjoyable stuff but poor production brings the entity down.

Written by Ellrohir on 22.10.2012 at 15:39

i would rate it 6 for objective qualities and then half this number for all the bullshit around...

God forbid
Hammer Pie - 22.10.2012 at 16:13  
Rating: 5
Written by Guest on 19.10.2012 at 22:39

Noise is overproduced. Or not. Is it? What? What's overproduced? It's nothing. This wasn't made for eight years, and anyway Time I & II both took the time and kinda still do.

What the fuck are you babbling about?

Anyway, this album is a perfect example of the fake "symphonic" overpolished bullshit that passes for metal these days.
Rawand - 22.10.2012 at 16:31  
Rating: 10 Perfect By All The Menas But For Sadly There 3 Songs
Marcel Hubregtse - 22.10.2012 at 17:40  
 
Written by Guest on 22.10.2012 at 17:31

Written by EthicaOdini85 on 22.10.2012 at 13:56

This album does not worth 10 neither a 9 noobs...it deserves max 8.3


No, it deserves something between 9.987 and 9.994. And I am absolutely objective.


great reply.
Ag Fox - 22.10.2012 at 17:49  
 
Written by Guest on 22.10.2012 at 17:34

Written by Rawand on 22.10.2012 at 16:31

Perfect By All The Menas But For Sadly There 3 Songs


It would have been a clear 2012 album-of-the-year winner if both parts had been released together as one.
nah... I bet it would have been too long for it's own good
Alex Fenger - 22.10.2012 at 17:49  
Rating: 3 Ah good, this is off the top 200 charts now.
Windir - 22.10.2012 at 18:26  
Rating: 8 I love the first album, but hey what's going on here? it smells like money, in fact it stinks!
"...we have thousands of fans waiting for our second album, they're just going to pay... but there's a problem we only have 60 minutes of music. That's not a problem at all, we just have to extend the intros, outros and maybe repeat some riffs here and there and voilà 80 to 85 minutes of epicness (or pseudoepicness)" and guess what it doesn't fit on a regular cd, what a surprise! "let's release 2 cds"
Have you noticed the amount of different editions? regular cd, cd/dvd, 2cd/dvd, cd/dvd + autographed photo, etc. For my part I think I'll buy the ultra limited edition including the black chinese costume that the members wear... By the way 80 min do fit on a regular audio cd. A certain musician said: "...anyway it would be too long to listen to that kind of music for 80+ minutes" what kind of crap is that?! we listen to the music we love for several years and we always want more. The problem is not the length, a masterpiece can be 30, 40 or 70 minutes long, it doesn't matter! the problem here are the stupid arguments...
Musically is an 8 for me, but I have the overall impression, like many others, that it's an incomplete product.
moe5512 - 22.10.2012 at 19:05  
 
Written by Windir on 22.10.2012 at 18:26

I love the first album, but hey what's going on here? it smells like money, in fact it stinks!
"...we have thousands of fans waiting for our second album, they're just going to pay... but there's a problem we only have 60 minutes of music. That's not a problem at all, we just have to extend the intros, outros and maybe repeat some riffs here and there and voilà 80 to 85 minutes of epicness (or pseudoepicness)" and guess what it doesn't fit on a regular cd, what a surprise! "let's release 2 cds"
Have you noticed the amount of different editions? regular cd, cd/dvd, 2cd/dvd, cd/dvd + autographed photo, etc. For my part I think I'll buy the ultra limited edition including the black chinese costume that the members wear... By the way 80 min do fit on a regular audio cd. A certain musician said: "...anyway it would be too long to listen to that kind of music for 80+ minutes" what kind of crap is that?! we listen to the music we love for several years and we always want more. The problem is not the length, a masterpiece can be 30, 40 or 70 minutes long, it doesn't matter! the problem here are the stupid arguments...
Musically is an 8 for me, but I have the overall impression, like many others, that it's an incomplete product.

Well said!

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