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Written by Vasil de Shumen on 30.10.2012 at 13:33
I don't understand - what is delightful in this band. Ordinary northern melodical power ... and nothing more : 40% Blind Guardian + 40% Rhapsody + 20% symphonic metal standards = BOREDOM
+1
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Ok guys that was funny! I just meant that he said exactly what I wanted to say!
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Written by Fritillaria on 09.11.2012 at 21:55
Ok guys that was funny! I just meant that he said exactly what I wanted to say!
That's also what I meant = P
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Blind Guardian, Rhapsody - Northern power?
Angra = southern... or what's going on?
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Written by disarray on 09.11.2012 at 23:02
Blind Guardian, Rhapsody - Northern power?
Angra = southern... or what's going on?
doesn't matter where they come from, the theme they use the patterns they write their music with,the motifs, you see? all those cliche that resemble the northern genre or I should say the genre which is called Northern
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Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 09.11.2012 at 22:18
Written by Fritillaria on 09.11.2012 at 21:55
Ok guys that was funny! I just meant that he said exactly what I wanted to say!
That's also what I meant = P
so +1 again 
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Written by Fritillaria on 09.11.2012 at 23:36
so +1 again
I was just adding them up as we went along ^.^
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OMG GUYZ LIEK I DISAGREE!
...excuse me.
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Written by Fritillaria on 09.11.2012 at 23:35
you see?
hardly
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 erat - 15.11.2012 at 14:13
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| Rating: 9 |
Sons of Winter and Stars.. Brillant.. Epic..
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1st track is awesome !
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| Rating: 7 |
I like this album because of the melodic association there is in every single song. It's less "hard" thant the first one, but it's really interesting.
The only thing I don't enjoy very much is the lenght.
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mcm - 25.11.2012 at 20:55
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Can anyone tell me what the hell is this abum trying to express ?
A new genre ? Folky Space Monkey Metal ?
The first song was awful, a Chinese folk music combined with space metal. I did not like this album at all !
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Wes - 26.11.2012 at 22:22
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Written by mcm on 25.11.2012 at 20:55
Can anyone tell me what the hell is this abum trying to express ?
A new genre ? Folky Space Monkey Metal ?
The first song was awful, a Chinese folk music combined with space metal. I did not like this album at all !
Thanks for rating something you would never listen to in the first place. Do you even like early Ensiferum or Wintersun? If not I'm sorry you haven't learned yet.
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mcm - 27.11.2012 at 12:37
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Thanks for rating something you would never listen to in the first place. Do you even like early Ensiferum or Wintersun? If not I'm sorry you haven't learned yet.
Ensiferum - 7
Iron - 6
Victory Songs - 5
From Far - 6
Unsung Hero - 9
Wintersun * - 8
Time I ^ - 2
* I couldn't rate Wintersun self-titled a 9 as the tempo in the whole album is in the same pace. What a big "mistake".
^ Time I is obviously 0 creativity.
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Written by Death_95 on 20.10.2012 at 00:19
This might be a stupid question but I never really got what people mean by the 'overproduced' term? What does it mean?
I'd say for example if a melody is played on 5 octaves, the same chords are played on 8 synths with slight different effects/settings, things like that. It just doesn't make a difference. Rhythm that doesn't make sense, like throwing in lots of random time signature changes in an otherwise steady pattern just to make a unique riff, throw in 3 bass guitar tracks to try empower the sound, etc. Have a quadruple solo with harmonics for no reason when the root solo is fine and sounds better on its own. Things like that is how I'd interpret it. Whether this album does that a lot, I'm not sure as I gave it only a few listens because I like to listen to guitar riffs and otherwise real instruments with a more authentic sound
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Written by fanapathy on 27.11.2012 at 20:10
Written by Death_95 on 20.10.2012 at 00:19
This might be a stupid question but I never really got what people mean by the 'overproduced' term? What does it mean?
I'd say for example if a melody is played on 5 octaves, the same chords are played on 8 synths with slight different effects/settings, things like that. It just doesn't make a difference. Rhythm that doesn't make sense, like throwing in lots of random time signature changes in an otherwise steady pattern just to make a unique riff, throw in 3 bass guitar tracks to try empower the sound, etc. Have a quadruple solo with harmonics for no reason when the root solo is fine and sounds better on its own. Things like that is how I'd interpret it. Whether this album does that a lot, I'm not sure as I gave it only a few listens because I like to listen to guitar riffs and otherwise real instruments with a more authentic sound
Thanks man!
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mcm - 28.11.2012 at 16:39
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Written by fanapathy on 27.11.2012 at 20:10
Written by Death_95 on 20.10.2012 at 00:19
This might be a stupid question but I never really got what people mean by the 'overproduced' term? What does it mean?
...if a melody is played on 5 octaves, the same chords are played on 8 synths with slight different effects/settings, things like that. It just doesn't make a difference. Rhythm that doesn't make sense, like throwing in lots of random time signature changes in an otherwise steady pattern just to make a unique riff, throw in 3 bass guitar tracks to try empower the sound...
One thing I don't lke about internet is - People always like to bullshit like an expert without under supervision, and the mob follow.
For Christ's Sake, I don't know where did you copy this explaination, it was stupid. You didn't know music theory at all ! Octave and number of guitar are not related to "Overproduction".
Overproduction is a very formal word to describe the sound of an album is overly "touch-up". If Heavy Metal's sound effect is overly done it would become very "electronic". For example, sounds very tight, too much unnatural consistensy in the beats. Generally very much like disco music. I would say Judas Priest's all Remaster Albums are Overproduced ! but still acceptable.
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Written by mcm on 28.11.2012 at 16:39
Written by fanapathy on 27.11.2012 at 20:10
Written by Death_95 on 20.10.2012 at 00:19
This might be a stupid question but I never really got what people mean by the 'overproduced' term? What does it mean?
...if a melody is played on 5 octaves, the same chords are played on 8 synths with slight different effects/settings, things like that. It just doesn't make a difference. Rhythm that doesn't make sense, like throwing in lots of random time signature changes in an otherwise steady pattern just to make a unique riff, throw in 3 bass guitar tracks to try empower the sound...
One thing I don't lke about internet is - People always like to bullshit like an expert without under supervision, and the mob follow.
For Christ's Sake, I don't know where did you copy this explaination, it was stupid. You didn't know music theory at all ! Octave and number of guitar are not related to "Overproduction".
Overproduction is a very formal word to describe the sound of an album is overly "touch-up". If Heavy Metal's sound effect is overly done it would become very "electronic". For example, sounds very tight, too much unnatural consistensy in the beats. Generally very much like disco music. I would say Judas Priest's all Remaster Albums are Overproduced ! but still acceptable.
This is how I've interpreted it, it's not copied from a definition. There are several albums that have been referred to as "overproduced" which has nothing to do with sounding electronic but having lots of unnecessary tracks which is what I'm referring to. If you're going to do an insulting post like this, at least provide sources.
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mcm - 28.11.2012 at 17:30
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This is how I've interpreted it, it's not copied from a definition. There are several albums that have been referred to as "overproduced" which has nothing to do with sounding electronic but having lots of unnecessary tracks which is what I'm referring to. If you're going to do an insulting post like this, at least provide sources.
Then your interpretation was definitely wrong.
Overproduction is caused by the direction (sound engineering) of a music producer in a recording studio. I don't say everybody hates it, some even like the exta tight effect, but professional listeners surely hate it.
Overproduction is a very common term in studio production. If you still think "which has nothing to do with sounding electronic" then have nothing to say.
* (....but having lots of unnecessary tracks which is what I'm referring to...) I can't believe that you said this. This was really laughable.
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Professional listener:
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Written by mcm on 28.11.2012 at 17:30
This is how I've interpreted it, it's not copied from a definition. There are several albums that have been referred to as "overproduced" which has nothing to do with sounding electronic but having lots of unnecessary tracks which is what I'm referring to. If you're going to do an insulting post like this, at least provide sources.
Then your interpretation was definitely wrong.
Overproduction is caused by the direction (sound engineering) of a music producer in a recording studio. I don't say everybody hates it, some even like the exta tight effect, but professional listeners surely hate it.
Overproduction is a very common term in studio production. If you still think "which has nothing to do with sounding electronic" then have nothing to say.
* (....but having lots of unnecessary tracks which is what I'm referring to...) I can't believe that you said this. This was really laughable.
I'm not derailing this further as you clearly don't understand what I mean, PM me when you reach puberty if you want to discuss this subject.
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Wes - 28.11.2012 at 23:54
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"Unsung Hero" a 9?
edit: Thanks Alloy that picture is hilarious, I had completely forgot about that movie. Wow.
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This thread is hilarious.
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| Rating: 10 |
I wasn't initially sold on Time but after a couple listens it really started to grow on me. I just saw them at House of Blues La and I was expecting the show to be good but it was way beyond anything I could have expected. They played the whole album almost straight through! I've been to a lot of shows and everything about this show was incredible. The crowd was waaay into it. Probably the most fun I've had at any concert, ever. I just changed my rating from an 8 to a 10 
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Aebsi - 03.12.2012 at 23:47
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Hehe it's completely reverse for me after first few listens (4) it's quite good, but now it's just boring save one song "Sons of Winter and Stars", for me it's the only note worthy song
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| Rating: 8 |
It was a good little EP.
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| Rating: 7 |
Written by mcm on 25.11.2012 at 20:55
Folky Space Monkey Metal
I can only dream that this will become a thing.
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| Rating: 9 |
Im really not sure of the technicalities of production but it is quite obvious in their album. Regardless, when I listen to it especially on the Sonic Studio... I only hear magnificence! It is the conclusion of my musical search. This is music for me. Its a new style and it's something that I personally would indulge.
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| Rating: 10 |
Imo it is a rarity for a band to release an album these days to such a depth or effort. To me it remains the metal album of the year. I believe some people think differently, well if you don't like it then try some other metal bands out, but I will continue listening to this 
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If this band went on the 70000 Tons of Metal cruise, the cruise would have to change its name to 70000 Tons of Cheese due to this album's cheesiness. 
Very fun album nonetheless.
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| Rating: 9 |
At the first listening of the album, i have to admit, that my first impressions was: What is this shit?! At first it was difficult to get used to this sound, but while I was listening more and more the album, i was tuning the sound in my audio equipment (high bass, and reducing a little the treble, usually I have the treble to the max, in my car, and in this way you separate the different instruments more, specially in this album, but i even get best result in the pc Windows 7, with audio driver 64 bits) together to my ears that was getting used to this sound gradually, i highly recommend to play with the tuning of your audio system's equalizer to get optimal sound, and finally i can say now i like very much the new album of Jari, to my ears when i listen the whole album i feel as if i was listening an instrumental work of classical music, a work very difficult to compose and mixing this multiinstrumentalist monster, with a great effort that is undeniable, no doubt the process was extremely laborious, and surely this album is an example of technological innovation, how the current technologies can allow something of this musical density, so i repeat, tunes it well with the equalizer, if you want to hear all the performances of this musical wonderful piece, that on the other hand i have to admit some of these performances can be difficult to hear. Comparing this album with the first, is clear that you can see two different styles, but finally i prefer the more metal style of the first album, and the melodies on the first were best inspired artistically.
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WOW, this discussion is .... is.... is... very ..... hhhmmmm...... what I want to say is..... awful..... strange....., yes, since the first album is great (that everyone want to say) and high expectation for 2nd album/EP while waiting in a long time
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I love the album but I'm finding that it's not something I listen to often in comparison with the original or a lot of other albums that I've been listening to lately.
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Written by Wes on 28.11.2012 at 23:54
"Unsung Hero" a 9?
edit: Thanks Alloy that picture is hilarious, I had completely forgot about that movie. Wow.
I laughed too. Unsung heros is barely a 7.
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mcm - 06.01.2013 at 11:38
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I laughed too. Unsung heros is barely a 7.
Funny. Only this site underrated Unsung Hero, overrated Time I. We laugh at each other.
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JÄY - 07.01.2013 at 01:01
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Written by mcm on 06.01.2013 at 11:38
I laughed too. Unsung heros is barely a 7.
Funny. Only this site underrated Unsung Hero, overrated Time I. We laugh at each other.
The feeling this site has toward Unsung Heros is similar to most http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/ensiferum
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Written by mcm on 25.11.2012 at 20:55
A new genre
Written by mcm on 27.11.2012 at 12:37
obviously 0 creativity
had no idea such a compromise was possible
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So many people coming to bands page just to start trashing and hating on the band's page to start a bashing war with fans of the band... This is so pathetic... It is all about taste and if you don't like it, good for you, but if I like it, I like it and you won't change my mind.
To me, Sons of Winter and Stars has to be the most EPIC song ever recorded and don't ever tell me it is not creative or missing originality because you will obviously be the biggest troll ever.
As for Ensiferum, I am a huge fan of Ensiferum and liked all the albums. But Unsung Hero, whatever the hell that is supposed to be, to me, it is the worst album I have listened to from a band I like. Just as bad as Sonata Arctica's albums after Reckoning Night.
I agree that the other songs on the album are just OK and don't really stand off, but what you must realize is that Jari decided to cut Time into two parts so he could release the first part earlier because of the fans had waited too long. For me, Time I and Time II are more EPs than an albnum.
Let's wait for Time II, but I hardly see how can any future songs can ever match Sons of Winter and Stars!
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Written by theFIST on 07.01.2013 at 02:15
Written by mcm on 25.11.2012 at 20:55
A new genre
Written by mcm on 27.11.2012 at 12:37
obviously 0 creativity
had no idea such a compromise was possible
Although I fin this album extremely dull, I have to admit, you got him there.
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Written by BoxCar Willy on 09.01.2013 at 06:33
Written by theFIST on 07.01.2013 at 02:15
Written by mcm on 25.11.2012 at 20:55
A new genre
Written by mcm on 27.11.2012 at 12:37
obviously 0 creativity
had no idea such a compromise was possible
Although I fin this album extremely dull, I have to admit, you got him there.
don"t really like it either, but notice that much thought went into it
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This thread is hilarious, keep it coming.
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mcm - 09.01.2013 at 21:12
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Written by JÄY on 07.01.2013 at 01:01
Written by mcm on 06.01.2013 at 11:38
I laughed too. Unsung heros is barely a 7.
Funny. Only this site underrated Unsung Hero, overrated Time I. We laugh at each other.
The feeling this site has toward Unsung Heros is similar to most http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/ensiferum
I laughed again. Thanks for reminding me the site that I have forgotten for the past 10 years ! No wonder so many underrated albums here, you are one of them to move over junk to this site.
http://rateyourmusic.com is APOS !
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| Rating: 10 |
Best album of 2012 and one of the best ever in my opinion. So intense and passional.
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The same thing like the first album (compositional speaking - less variations) with one tempo. Waiting for Time II. Hope for the best!
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Pretty much this is what I was expecting. I grew up listening to lots of COB, KALMAH, Ensiferum, etc. Many people think the melodeath genre has gone stale, but it's still my favorite, and Wintersun are at the top of their game this go around. Can't wait for part two.
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Written by SWAMPL0RD on 05.02.2013 at 08:55
Pretty much this is what I was expecting. I grew up listening to lots of COB, KALMAH, Ensiferum, etc. Many people think the melodeath genre has gone stale, but it's still my favorite, and Wintersun are at the top of their game this go around. Can't wait for part two.
Jusy such a shame that all the bands you mentioned don't play melodeath at all  They all play a more extreme version of power metal, nothing to do with melodeath.
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