I'd rather the answer that doesn't deserve a spot there

I guess this album will be soon downgraded (especially if/when it hits one of the highest places on Top 200 chart), and the rating will then stabilize somewhere between 8.4 - 8.7 (after few months time).

Otherwise yet another amazing release by Summoning.

Written by Silent Creeper on 10.06.2013 at 15:55

I guess this album will be soon downgraded (especially if/when it hits one of the highest places on Top 200 chart), and the rating will then stabilize somewhere between 8.4 - 8.7 (after few months time).

Yeah, it's very likely. Now it have a huge 9.2 rating, but it is just over 160 votes, for example, Stroghold have over 400. So current rating probably isn't even a half of all future voters.

Written by Cronomaster on 10.06.2013 at 17:31

Written by Silent Creeper on 10.06.2013 at 15:55

I guess this album will be soon downgraded (especially if/when it hits one of the highest places on Top 200 chart), and the rating will then stabilize somewhere between 8.4 - 8.7 (after few months time).

Yeah, it's very likely. Now it have a huge 9.2 rating, but it is just over 160 votes, for example, Stroghold have over 400. So current rating probably isn't even a half of all future voters.

Stronghold have 324 votes not over 400. And if OMD reaches 200 votes with 9 or over, it will maybe the best Summoning release with Stronghold.

Speaking of ratings .. I totally understand when people say that they don't like that album .. but the three guys who gave it a "1" which by MS definition means "worst ever" that totally smells like "uh why is summoning on first spot on the top 2013 list and not my favorite album .. let's rate it down"

Written by Dinruth on 10.06.2013 at 22:46

Speaking of ratings .. I totally understand when people say that they don't like that album .. but the three guys who gave it a "1" which by MS definition means "worst ever" that totally smells like "uh why is summoning on first spot on the top 2013 list and not my favorite album .. let's rate it down"

..."...even without listening to it"

Written by Dinruth on 10.06.2013 at 22:46

but the three guys who gave it a "1"

Burn them alive!

Written by Paz on 11.06.2013 at 01:57

Written by Dinruth on 10.06.2013 at 22:46

but the three guys who gave it a "1"

Burn them alive!

I don't know if that's sarcasm or not ( I guess it is), but that's certainly not what I meant .. I'm not a fanboy who is super pissed at people ho don't like summoning I just find those ratings peculiar

The more I listen to this album the more I love it. It's even better than Oath Bound (which was my favorite one).
Everything I like in Summoning music is in Old Mornings Dawn and even after 10 listenings I really cannot fault this cd at any point.
I guess that is the definition of "perfect" right ?

Written by Sojgenske on 11.06.2013 at 15:06

The more I listen to this album the more I love it. It's even better than Oath Bound (which was my favorite one).
Everything I like in Summoning music is in Old Mornings Dawn and even after 10 listenings I really cannot fault this cd at any point.
I guess that is the definition of "perfect" right ?

Agreed man Awesome stuff.

Written by guill62 on 10.06.2013 at 21:27

Stronghold have 324 votes not over 400. And if OMD reaches 200 votes with 9 or over, it will maybe the best Summoning release with Stronghold.

Well, if it'll reach 200 votes, and it still will be 9.2 rating (above 9.15 precisely), it'll have the 1st place on MS All-Time list

Written by Cronomaster on 11.06.2013 at 17:22

Well, if it'll reach 200 votes, and it still will be 9.2 rating (above 9.15 precisely), it'll have the 1st place on MS All-Time list

Damn, it will be epic seeing this album rule the top 200. However, I have my doubts... somehow I don't think it'll come in at #1, but definitely in the top 10 though.

Sopor metal side project ?

A real "Old Mornings Dawn madness" here.

"Old Mornings Dawn" & "The White Tower" are my favorites!

Severely overrated, way too damn long.

Written by Boxcar Willy on 12.06.2013 at 01:48

Severely overrated, way too damn long.

I think that this "overrated" results from a long absence. Summoning come back after 7 years and it's normal, that there's so much excitement. Maybe when the emotions subside, some people will start to more objective rating.

Written by Góral on 12.06.2013 at 03:41

I think that this "overrated" results from a long absence. Summoning come back after 7 years and it's normal, that there's so much excitement. Maybe when the emotions subside, some people will start to more objective rating.

If you look the other Summoning albums (except early Bm-styled ones), they all have high 8s and even a 9. I think this one will have something similar. Basically coz it sounds like the other albums, but still has the little changes they always do.

I think long absence has quite a minor role. Other band that are more popular than Summoning also took shitload of time to release something new, yet didn't automatically end up with #1 solely by excitement/fanboyism.

C'mon. 9 more votes. (I haven't voted yet, order only shipped yesterday.)

Written by Boxcar Willy on 12.06.2013 at 01:48

Severely overrated, way too damn long.

How so? Simply because you don't like it a lot isn't a valid reason. If you're not into a certain subgenre, then don't judge it.

On a side note, it just came in as #1 in the top 200 albums of all time. Although it's not going to be #1 for long I suppose.

Written by Erik M. on 12.06.2013 at 19:10

Written by Boxcar Willy on 12.06.2013 at 01:48

Severely overrated, way too damn long.

How so? Simply because you don't like it a lot isn't a valid reason. If you're not into a certain subgenre, then don't judge it.

Same as E.Mols86 und ze Nu Metal? :p

Written by Guest on 12.06.2013 at 20:51

Same as E.Mols86 und ze Nu Metal? :p

Yeah, except that almost no nu metal music gets high ratings, which means even people who like the music don't think it's all that awesome. Summoning is either loved or hated by people and it's still rated extremely high. I have yet to come across a ground-breaking nu metal release.

Written by Paz on 09.06.2013 at 18:15

Damn, why this album doesn't lead the "all-time list"

kuz you put 7 with sevens no one has leaded any list ever

... aaaaand let the downrating begin .. now people will be like "omg it is top 5 in the best 200 metal albums of all times .. lets give it a 1 or 2"

Two more people that gave it a one .. those two right after it got into the top 200 ... really guys?

Written by Dinruth on 13.06.2013 at 00:13

Two more people that gave it a one .. those two right after it got into the top 200 ... really guys?

I noticed too. It's pathetic, annoying and ridiculous to rate something for the sake of a ranking.

Written by Dinruth on 13.06.2013 at 00:13

Two more people that gave it a one .. those two right after it got into the top 200 ... really guys?

Welcome to Metalstorm !

It's annoying, but it's something that has always happened to the top albums of the year every year.

On the other hand, though, this discussion has become nothing more than a circlejerk about a pointless rating.

Written by Erik M. on 12.06.2013 at 19:10

Written by Boxcar Willy on 12.06.2013 at 01:48

Severely overrated, way too damn long.

How so? Simply because you don't like it a lot isn't a valid reason. If you're not into a certain subgenre, then don't judge it.

On a side note, it just came in as #1 in the top 200 albums of all time. Although it's not going to be #1 for long I suppose.

You're assuming that I don't listen to atmospheric black metal.

This is overrated in the same way Time 1 was, and how Necrophagists will be. When a band releases a good album, and then doesn't follow it up for a long period of time, they create hype. Time 1 is the perfect example of this, it had a 9.4 with +100 for the first two weeks, then people realized that it was another boring, over produced pile, and started to rate it reasonably. It now has an 8.5 or thereabouts.

So yes, the amount of Summoning Fan boys here is too damn high.

Written by Boxcar Willy on 13.06.2013 at 04:47

So yes, the amount of Summoning Fan boys here is too damn high.

A statement more true has never been spoken