Averus
Posts: 18 From: USA
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26.03.2011 - 20:11Rating: 7
My only real complaint about this album is that it begs for some more acoustic interludes like in the first track, Wolf and Fear. I'm okay with the raw black metal production, I just wish they tried to make it a LITTLE more folk.
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Luneth
Posts: 968 From: UK  |
22.04.2011 - 18:22Rating: 10
Raw Black Metal. Perfect album.
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Evil? I am not Malevolent, I simply am!
Apocalypse, X-Men
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I would've really enjoyed this album had the production not been so raw and ear-piercing.
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ThunderAxe1989 Irreligious
Posts: 7383 From: Bahamas  |
Written by Averus on 26.03.2011 at 20:11
My only real complaint about this album is that it begs for some more acoustic interludes like in the first track, Wolf and Fear. I'm okay with the raw black metal production, I just wish they tried to make it a LITTLE more folk.
I agree wholeheartedly, Their first effort was so good. I mean, this album is a good listen, but I don't feel they're applying themselves as much. They were capable of so much more.
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@gent_-_orange
Posts: 891 From: UK  |
Written by Guest on 26.03.2012 at 00:51
I would've really enjoyed this album had the production not been so raw and ear-piercing.
TBH I think this album would not have half the effect it does if it used a less raw production job, This album just sounds better this way.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist
Posts: 18929 From: Canada  |
Written by @gent_-_orange on 06.04.2012 at 22:11 This album just sounds better this way.
We've all seen the effects of a "properly" produced black metal album (Burzum, Gorgoroth), and I think it's safe to say if it ain't broke... don't fix it.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist
Posts: 18929 From: Canada  |
Written by Guest on 07.04.2012 at 06:06 if the world is flat, don't fix it?
What?
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@gent_-_orange
Posts: 891 From: UK  |
Written by Troy Killjoy on 07.04.2012 at 03:53
We've all seen the effects of a "properly" produced black metal album (Burzum, Gorgoroth), and I think it's safe to say if it ain't broke... don't fix it.
I would go further and say that this problem extends beyond black metal, Any genre of extreme metal (and Doom as well if you count it as extreme metal) suffers when you give it an overtly "glossy" production, It just makes the music sound soulless.
This album is as it is, No re-recordings or remasters necessary. I believe music is a statement of how the artist is feeling at the time and any tempering with it now would just fuck it up.
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RavenKing
Posts: 1941 From: Canada  |
Written by Troy Killjoy on 07.04.2012 at 03:53
I think it's safe to say if it ain't broke... don't fix it.
When it comes to metal albums, I think they should be enjoyed for what they were originally. I mean, with the original production. If you can't enjoy an album in its true form, just listen to something else.
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Written by RavenKing on 06.05.2012 at 20:38
When it comes to metal albums, I think they should be enjoyed for what they were originally. I mean, with the original production. If you can't enjoy an album in its true form, just listen to something else.
Not true because albums occasionally get released without the production the band wanted. A good example is Nevermore's Enemies of Reality. The original was a total botch job of a shambles and was virtually unlistenable. Albums should be listened to how the creator originally intended which quite often is out of the creator's hands.
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RavenKing
Posts: 1941 From: Canada  |
Written by Guest on 06.05.2012 at 20:40
Not true because albums occasionally get released without the production the band wanted. A good example is Nevermore's Enemies of Reality. The original was a total botch job of a shambles and was virtually unlistenable. Albums should be listened to how the creator originally intended which quite often is out of the creator's hands.
Sure, there can be some exceptions but I must say I'm usually against re-masters.
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Written by RavenKing on 06.05.2012 at 20:42
Sure, there can be some exceptions but I must say I'm usually against re-masters.
I'm against anything that needlessly adds shine to something that was ok. Sigh's 'Gallows Gallery' and Benighted's 'Insane Cephalic Production' are a couple of examples I can think of.
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RavenKing
Posts: 1941 From: Canada  |
Written by Guest on 06.05.2012 at 20:45
I'm against anything that needlessly adds shine to something that was ok.
Here, we agree.
In case of a botched job from an engineer or producer, it's a different matter. I'm just against polishing albums in order to make them more accessible.
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They say we'll be your friends we'll stick with you till the end
But everybody's only looking out for themselves
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist
Posts: 18929 From: Canada  |
Written by RavenKing on 06.05.2012 at 20:48 I'm just against polishing albums in order to make them more accessible.
Same. Reminds me of Burzum and Gorgoroth's recent compilations...
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Boxcar Willy yr a kook
Posts: 7587 From: Canada  |
25.11.2012 - 23:36Rating: 9
I enjoy it, production and all.
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Checkout my band here!
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warschau
Posts: 5 From: Turkey  |
13.10.2013 - 18:25Rating: 10
Very good album, it is real black metal.
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Unhealer Eclecticist
Posts: 2223 From: Argentina  |
14.10.2013 - 06:26Rating: 7
UnhealerEclecticistPosts: 2223 From: Argentina 
I would like to know what Marcel Hubregtse has to say about the rumors behind the production of this album.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck
Posts: 39768 From: The Netherlands  |
Written by Unhealer on 14.10.2013 at 06:26
I would like to know what Marcel Hubregtse has to say about the rumors behind the production of this album.
What rumours beind the production of this album? The band intended it to sound like this, they have such that on numerous occasions in the past and also quite recently.
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Member of the true crusade against European Flower Metal
Yesterday is dead and gone, tomorrow is out of sight
Dawn Crosby (r.i.p.)
05.04.1963 - 15.12.1996
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Daniell _爱情_
Posts: 5556 From: Poland  |
The album is great. but listening to it can really hurt. I always end up fiddling with the graphic equalizer when I want to listen to the album. I'm sure they wanted it to be so painful. Ulver have always been clever.
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Tribulation - The Lament
Tribulation - Nightbound
Tribulation - Subterranea
Tribulation - The World
Tribulation - Here Be Dragons
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Unhealer Eclecticist
Posts: 2223 From: Argentina  |
14.10.2013 - 21:53Rating: 7
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.10.2013 at 13:12
What rumours beind the production of this album? The band intended it to sound like this, they have such that on numerous occasions in the past and also quite recently.
I meant that rumor that the label gave them money to record the album but they apparently used it to buy suits or a car or cocaine or all of that since their idea for the sound of the album required a minimum budget obviously. It is also said that they recorded this one in a forest with battery powered equipment, Garm denied that however.
I thought you would know if something is actually true about all this
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck
Posts: 39768 From: The Netherlands  |
Written by Unhealer on 14.10.2013 at 21:53
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.10.2013 at 13:12
What rumours beind the production of this album? The band intended it to sound like this, they have such that on numerous occasions in the past and also quite recently.
I meant that rumor that the label gave them money to record the album but they apparently used it to buy suits or a car or cocaine or all of that since their idea for the sound of the album required a minimum budget obviously. It is also said that they recorded this one in a forest with battery powered equipment, Garm denied that however.
I thought you would know if something is actually true about all this 
oh that so-called rumour  The onyl spread that as a marketing trick.
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Yesterday is dead and gone, tomorrow is out of sight
Dawn Crosby (r.i.p.)
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Unhealer Eclecticist
Posts: 2223 From: Argentina  |
14.10.2013 - 22:27Rating: 7
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I thought so  It's a fun thing to spread.
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In my opinion, this is the greatest album cover of all time.
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flightoficarus Stamp Tramp
Posts: 988 From: USA  |
03.12.2014 - 17:13Rating: 10
This is one of the most gorgeous, emotional, and personal black metal albums ever written. It's raw, and it may take your ears time to adjust; but you will not regret it. 10/10 all the way.
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metalfan1999
Posts: 65 From: Germany  |
30.12.2015 - 18:44Rating: 10
Written by Luneth on 22.04.2011 at 18:22
Raw Black Metal. Perfect album.
Agreed
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Jurgen33
Posts: 10 From: Poland  |
24.03.2018 - 23:06Rating: 10
Unmatched intensity evoking deep emotions.
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