Buy for
$8.12
(6 items)

Release date: 4 March 2011
Style: Doom metal

Rating:

8.2 | 131 votes

Owners:

102 have it
18 want it


01. Restless
02. Open My Eyes
03. Take Me In [vinyl bonus]
04. Between Times
05. Carry Me Home
06. This Alone

The best Doom Metal album of 2011

Review
Lyrics (6)


Line-up
Patrick Walker - guitar, vocals
Christian Leitch - drums, percussion
William Spong - bass, percussion

Staff review by
Xnoybis

Rating:
9.0
When last we left Pat Walker he was playing guitar and providing heart-wrenching vocals for Warning on the powerful Watching From A Distance album. That album found itself on many staff "best of the 00's" lists. Then things fell through. Band imploded. Kablooey.

Four years later Pat Walker is back with two new mates, bassist William Spong and drummer Christian Leitch, a new band, 40 Watt Sun, and a new album, The Inside Room.

Read more ››
published 21.04.2011 | Comments (34)

Staff pick by
Thryce

27.03.2011 If you have been paying any attention at all, you know that 40 Watt Sun is the reincarnation of the now-defunct Warning (and if you don't even know who Warning is, gtfo). Let me tell you, Patrick Walker once again delivers: the atmosphere is, well, you'll just have to experience for yourself. The mandatory stuff for every self-loathing doom fan.

Thryce's picks | More picks ››

Found in 39 lists
Top lists

MechanisT MMXI: Handpicked by MechanisT  | #239
Erik M. A List Of Great Debut Albums  | #119
!J.O.O.E.! An Ever Expanding Agglomeration Of 2011's Best & Most Intriguing Concoctions - Now With ❤!  | #11
Chobo_jokeR Crushing (Not For The Faint Of Heart)  | #19
Xnoybis DooOOOooOOmmm  | #1
!J.O.O.E.! The Best Of UK Doom Metal  | #1
~Starchild~ Pain, Grief & Sorrow: Highlights of Doom Metal  | #1
Susan 2011 Suggestions For The Eclectic Metalhead  | #5
More lists with this album (39) | Create a list! ››



Comments page 2 of 2

‹‹ Back to the Albums Pages: 1 [2]
Comments: 81  
Users visited: 520  
Search this topic:  


God Buster 鬼 - 23.08.2014 at 22:32  
Rating: 8 This album is very Anathema (with heavier bass).
Called it straight out Doom Metal is a bit far fetched. Progressive Doom Metal ?
Troy Killjoy - 23.08.2014 at 22:38  
  Progressive?

Ozman - 23.08.2014 at 22:46  
Rating: 8
Written by Troy Killjoy on 23.08.2014 at 22:38

Progressive?



Indeed. Progressive?

Is GodBuster LeKiwi in disguise?
Diverge - 23.08.2014 at 23:27  
Rating: 9
Written by God Buster 鬼 on 23.08.2014 at 22:32

Called it straight out Doom Metal is a bit far fetched. Progressive Doom Metal ?

Haha this is nowhere close to progressive doom metal. There is absolutely nothing progressive about this at all.
God Buster 鬼 - 24.08.2014 at 10:53  
Rating: 8
Written by Troy Killjoy on 23.08.2014 at 22:38

Progressive?



Progressive ? (my question)

Your answer, "You're so dumb metal". A new genre ?
God Buster 鬼 - 24.08.2014 at 11:13  
Rating: 8
Written by Ozman on 23.08.2014 at 22:46

Written by Troy Killjoy on 23.08.2014 at 22:38

Progressive?



Indeed. Progressive?

Is GodBuster LeKiwi in disguise?


Progressive ?

The defination of "progressive" is very wide, you didn't ask me "which part ?" so proven that your own defination could be very narrow. Progressive Doom Metal ? actually is a question, I couldn't really define this album right away as their vocals' melodies are very similar to early-mid 70's "White- progressive" whereas Dream Theater's style of progressive is closer to late 70's "Black-Jazz progressive", nowadays people just omitted the word "progressive" and simply called them Jazz which is very wrong.

This album adopted 70's White-progressive vocal's melodies section, but did not focus on guitars' virtuosity and solo at all, which was a very smart direction to avoid being labeled as a rip-off of any more famous progressive band. On the other hand doom is usually rhythmic, but this is totally more into vocal's melodic...another wise move to avoid being labeled as a rip-off of any more famous doom metal band.

I have not figured out where should it be and I am very sure THIS IS NOT A DOOM METAL, it's very amatuerish to call this a Doom due to the heavy bass although 99.9% of the listeners have labeled this album as Doom.

Advantgard Metal would be my another option right now.
!J.O.O.E.! - 24.08.2014 at 11:20  
Rating: 9 This is doom metal with some shoegaze influence. Certainly not progressive in any conventional sense, and not avant-garde in any sense.
God Buster 鬼 - 24.08.2014 at 11:33  
Rating: 8
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 24.08.2014 at 11:20

This is doom metal with some shoegaze influence. Certainly not progressive in any conventional sense, and not avant-garde in any sense.

Then how do you explain the vocal melodies ? Doom metal doesn't need that at all such as all My Dying Bride's album, Black Sabbath's master of Reality..all these albums are rhythmics even on vocals.
Thre's no rules on Advantgarde Metal right now...so there's where it should be.
!J.O.O.E.! - 24.08.2014 at 11:52  
Rating: 9
Written by God Buster 鬼 on 24.08.2014 at 11:33


Then how do you explain the vocal melodies ? Doom metal doesn't need that at all such as all My Dying Bride's album, Black Sabbath's master of Reality..all these albums are rhythmics even on vocals.
Thre's no rules on Advantgarde Metal right now...so there's where it should be.

Vocal melodies have nothing to do with making something progressive metal. The vocals would have to be extremely offbeat to have any effect like that. The vocals here are mildly unusual at best.

Avant-garde metal does have characteristics, which is why a consensus can be reached about what an avant-garde metal band can be. Same with doom metal, which has a consensus stylistic make up. That's why 99% of people recognise this as doom. It's amateurish to ignore those clear doom components in favour of a vague focus on vocals.

If you want to think this is progressive or avant-garde then that's up to you, but I don't think there's any danger of you convincing anyone else of that.

As I said this is doom metal. More or less a continuation of Warning with slightly more upbeat songs and a Jesu-like shoegaze tone and feel to the sound.
Diverge - 24.08.2014 at 16:21  
Rating: 9 What the hell? I thought his first post was seriously misinformed, but he actually considered the avant-garde label. *facepalm*

Maybe I'm just a total moron, but what the hell is white-progressive and black-jazz-progressive? I consider myself a prog fan, and so I'm surprised that I haven't seen those terms. If these are actual concepts, you clearly know more about progressive music than...well, just about everyone on MS. And you're obviously a keen doom listener because you've taken an album that 99% of us have labeled as doom metal and reminded us of its truly progressive leanings. You're totally right- we were all just paying way too much attention to the bass, and so we ended up getting the label wrong.
Ozman - 24.08.2014 at 16:33  
Rating: 8
Written by Diverge on 24.08.2014 at 16:21

And you're obviously a keen doom listener because you've taken an album that 99% of us have labeled as doom metal and reminded us of its truly progressive leanings.


Not only 99% of us here, but I would say 99.9% of all doom fans, doom musicians, doom labels, die hard doomsters as well then


And as for the bass. As if it has to have a bass to be considered doom.
So, not having a bass would rule out Skepticism and Profetus as doom bands, going by the bass theory.
Diverge - 24.08.2014 at 16:41  
Rating: 9
Written by Ozman on 24.08.2014 at 16:33

Not only 99% of us here, but I would say 99.9% of all doom fans, doom musicians, doom labels, die hard doomsters as well then

Yeah, even giving him 1% of non-consensus is too generous.
Troy Killjoy - 24.08.2014 at 17:54  
  I was going to respond to that quote before I read more of his comments. It was a good effort, Joe. But unfortunately I don't think even that incredibly articulate description of why this isn't progressive will resonate with him. He's still busy making up genres and focusing on the smallest elements and making them out to be far more significant than they are.
!J.O.O.E.! - 24.08.2014 at 18:15  
Rating: 9 To be honest the guy can think what he likes about genres, but I don't understand why 99.9 of people are "amateurs" because none of them think in God Buster's totally unorthodox way. We aren't magically aware of these entirely new ways of looking at prog metal based on vocals and bass guitar, not to mention hitherto unheard of classifications of music, like "white progressive" and "black jazz progressive." Forgive us sheep, God Buster. We all clearly wasted our time trying to engage with the idea of genre construction by learning about it through consensus. I should have realised pulling random phrases and definitions spontaneously out of my ass was the correct way to examine music.
God Buster 鬼 - 24.08.2014 at 19:04  
Rating: 8
Written by Diverge on 24.08.2014 at 16:21

What the hell? I thought his first post was seriously misinformed, but he actually considered the avant-garde label. *facepalm*

Maybe I'm just a total moron, but what the hell is white-progressive and black-jazz-progressive? I consider myself a prog fan, and so I'm surprised that I haven't seen those terms. If these are actual concepts, you clearly know more about progressive music than...well, just about everyone on MS. And you're obviously a keen doom listener because you've taken an album that 99% of us have labeled as doom metal and reminded us of its truly progressive leanings. You're totally right- we were all just paying way too much attention to the bass, and so we ended up getting the label wrong.


I am no expert, just to open up a discussion as I found the progressive elements in the vocal-melody sectiosn on this album. Hope I am not off topic.

White-progressive here means white men's progreesive music, black progressive means black men's progressive music, of course both are not official terms. White musicians adopted elements of 60's Black Blues and evolved a style of their own with blending guitars virtuosity and very unusual vocal melody composition became - progressive rock in the late 60's- 70's. The black can not sing white man type of progressive vocals but they wanted to show that they can do better so they mixed everything plus what they're good at - Jazz in their music became a modern mixed styles jazzy-psychedelic progressive in the late 70's. You totally can tell they're black if you don't open up the cover...

Generally speaking white men's progressive muisc is truly amazing but they're very underrated, if you're a progressive fans you can check out the followings, I would say my all time favorites.
Gravy Train - Gravy Train, Renaissance - Prologue, The Floating Bridge - The Floating Bridge, The Beggar's Opera - Waters Of Change...etc. Genesis ? No...they're similar to Metallica...too much overrated.
Troy Killjoy - 24.08.2014 at 19:09  
  Categorizing music by race.
Ilham - 24.08.2014 at 19:18  
  Please let's all forget about this. Please don't reply. Please move on. You will thank me later.

Diverge - 24.08.2014 at 19:26  
Rating: 9 I have nothing further to contribute.
moonflash - 24.08.2014 at 20:16  
  Thanks for the good laugh folks.
Erik M. - 25.08.2014 at 23:31  
Rating: 8 What the fuck is that guy talking about? Progressive doom metal?

Listen to Noekk and you'll hear actual progressive doom (folk) metal. 40 Watt Sun is totally doom metal. Also can't remember hearing any shoegaze elements (which Joe is claiming) but I haven't listened to this album in many months, so that might be it.
Diverge - 26.08.2014 at 01:18  
Rating: 9
Written by Erik M. on 25.08.2014 at 23:31

What the fuck is that guy talking about? Progressive doom metal?

Listen to Noekk and you'll hear actual progressive doom (folk) metal. 40 Watt Sun is totally doom metal. Also can't remember hearing any shoegaze elements (which Joe is claiming) but I haven't listened to this album in many months, so that might be it.

Yeah I thought the shoegaze suggestion was a little odd myself, but at least it's more reasonable than calling this progressive.
Erik M. - 26.08.2014 at 21:16  
Rating: 8
Written by Diverge on 26.08.2014 at 01:18

Yeah I thought the shoegaze suggestion was a little odd myself, but at least it's more reasonable than calling this progressive.


Yeah, I'll have to check this again but I know the album quite well already and I never heard any shoegaze in 40 Watt Sun's sound. And yeah, calling it progressive is indeed ridiculous.
!J.O.O.E.! - 26.08.2014 at 21:17  
Rating: 9 You people need to listen to more Jesu.
Boxcar Willy - 26.08.2014 at 21:39  
 
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 26.08.2014 at 21:17

You people need to listen to more Jesu.

This I agree with.
!J.O.O.E.! - 26.08.2014 at 21:42  
Rating: 9
Written by Boxcar Willy on 26.08.2014 at 21:39

Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 26.08.2014 at 21:17

You people need to listen to more Jesu.

This I agree with.

Actually I need to listen to more Jesu too. Might give Silver another going over soon.
Mr. Doctor - 27.08.2014 at 15:33  
Rating: 9 Agree with both of you. Even Craig commented on the Jesu sound in his review.
!J.O.O.E.! - 27.08.2014 at 17:12  
Rating: 9
Written by Mr. Doctor on 27.08.2014 at 15:33

Agree with both of you. Even Craig commented on the Jesu sound in his review.

Glad I'm not hearing things then.
Diverge - 28.08.2014 at 04:10  
Rating: 9
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 26.08.2014 at 21:17

You people need to listen to more Jesu.

I stand corrected. Four hours of listening to random Jesu tracks on Youtube for the first time, and I've come to the conclusion that you were right and I was wrong.
!J.O.O.E.! - 28.08.2014 at 11:26  
Rating: 9
Written by Diverge on 28.08.2014 at 04:10

I stand corrected. Four hours of listening to random Jesu tracks on Youtube for the first time, and I've come to the conclusion that you were right and I was wrong.

Awesome. Unless sarcasm, in which case not awesome.
Diverge - 28.08.2014 at 15:34  
Rating: 9
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 28.08.2014 at 11:26

Written by Diverge on 28.08.2014 at 04:10

I stand corrected. Four hours of listening to random Jesu tracks on Youtube for the first time, and I've come to the conclusion that you were right and I was wrong.

Awesome. Unless sarcasm, in which case not awesome.

No sarcasm.
Diverge - 16.11.2014 at 02:58  
Rating: 9 Ahahaha just remembered this.

Advertise on Metal Storm
Pages: 1 [2]


Login or register to post here.



Similar topics

Forum Topic Similarity Started
Reviews 40 Watt Sun - The Inside Room 9 21.04.2011 by Mikyz
Albums Ethernal - The Black Sun [EP] 6 02.11.2012 by Boxcar Willy
Albums Swallow The Sun - Emerald Forest And The Blackbird 6 08.05.2011 by MechanisT
Albums Echoterra - Land Of The Midnight Sun 6 30.10.2012 by SceneryOfLoss
Albums Brymir - Breathe Fire To The Sun 6 06.08.2011 by psykometal



Hits total: 13152 | This month: 165