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Written by Guest on 14.12.2012 at 21:58
We all can vote!
I suspected as much, but where and when?
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Written by EMols86 on 14.12.2012 at 22:04
Written by Guest on 14.12.2012 at 21:58
We all can vote!
I suspected as much, but where and when?
For the whole month of February... where --> you'll see, it's easy.
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Written by K†ulu on 14.12.2012 at 22:11
For the whole month of February... where --> you'll see, it's easy.
Okay, thanks for the info.
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Another fine, fine album and much better than Veronika, which really didn't do much for me.
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Still standing at the first position, this makes me happy 
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Written by MechanisT on 17.12.2012 at 21:42
Another fine, fine album and much better than Veronika, which really didn't do much for me.
I totally agree. Veronika was very good, but somehow I can't enjoy it a lot (some songs are rather underwhelming to me).
Written by InnerSelf on 18.12.2012 at 19:38
Still standing at the first position, this makes me happy
Yeah, but for how long? With idiots voting 1's it's going to drop pretty fast. Rating this album a 1/10 is unjustifiable whether you like the music or not.
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Written by EMols86 on 18.12.2012 at 21:54
Still standing at the first position, this makes me happy
Yeah, but for how long? With idiots voting 1's it's going to drop pretty fast. Rating this album a 1/10 is unjustifiable whether you like the music or not.
Probably the longest period a Doom metal record has sat on top
I probably have never heard an album that I'd rate 1 and maybe that's because I try to stay the hell away from stuff I know I won't like.
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Everytime I check the top 20 and still see this album on top I'm like "in your face, haters!" 
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Funny how I enjoyed this more than Veronika...
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kaka - 19.12.2012 at 22:19
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Written by EMols86 on 19.12.2012 at 00:20
Yeah, but for how long? With idiots voting 1's it's going to drop pretty fast. Rating this album a 1/10 is unjustifiable whether you like the music or not.
I got some attention by posting in the Shoutbox, and pointing out that 1s were all by Be'lakor fans... Unfortunately one of the votes that was removed, came back and voted the very next day. Oh well...
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Written by InnerSelf on 19.12.2012 at 00:20
Probably the longest period a Doom metal record has sat on top
I probably have never heard an album that I'd rate 1 and maybe that's because I try to stay the hell away from stuff I know I won't like.
Really? I wouldn't know since I'm only really active on MS for a couple of months (registered longer than 2 years ago though). And yeah, I'd probably only give a 1 to a bad Nu metal band (which is my least favourite genre I suppose)... so I'd never listen to Nu metal in the first place, though when I would, I'd start with the best Nu metal band out there. To sum it up, the guy who voted a 1/10 is probably someone who hates seeing Saturnus on #1 in the top 20, or he just really hates the genre (which would be strange).
Written by Dark†SymphonY on 19.12.2012 at 20:05
Funny how I enjoyed this more than Veronika...
A lot of people seem to enjoy this more than Veronika (including me), yet it's "only" rated an 8.6, while Veronika has an 8.9.
Written by kaka on 19.12.2012 at 22:19
I got some attention by posting in the Shoutbox, and pointing out that 1s were all by Be'lakor fans... Unfortunately one of the votes that was removed, came back and voted the very next day. Oh well...
Yep, I noticed this as well (I think I saw your shout too). What a pathetic attempt on bringing this album down.
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Gettin' a whoooole lotta 'meh' out of this one on my first listen. Romantic death-doom that overuses weepy guitar leads, and just isn't very engaging. I will admit I typically dislike the more romantic doom bands, but I've enjoyed previous Saturnus releases. This just fails to stand out amongst the slew of great doom releases this year. Sorry guys, I don't understand the hype.
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Written by Apatheria on 21.12.2012 at 01:44
Gettin' a whoooole lotta 'meh' out of this one on my first listen. Romantic death-doom that overuses weepy guitar leads, and just isn't very engaging. I will admit I typically dislike the more romantic doom bands, but I've enjoyed previous Saturnus releases. This just fails to stand out amongst the slew of great doom releases this year. Sorry guys, I don't understand the hype.
Are you being serious? You can't judge an album after only 1 listen.  I'd always listen at least 3 times, but mostly 5 times before even rating an album. I began liking Saturn In Ascension way more after my 5th listen, though that's just me. Their debut is better than this, but it still destroys Veronika and Martyre easily for me.
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Written by EMols86 on 21.12.2012 at 20:41
You can't judge an album after only 1 listen.
Mmmm, in 99% of all instances you can.
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Written by kaka on 19.12.2012 at 22:19
Written by EMols86 on 19.12.2012 at 00:20
Yeah, but for how long? With idiots voting 1's it's going to drop pretty fast. Rating this album a 1/10 is unjustifiable whether you like the music or not.
I got some attention by posting in the Shoutbox, and pointing out that 1s were all by Be'lakor fans... Unfortunately one of the votes that was removed, came back and voted the very next day. Oh well...
There are two users that voted 1, and vote "Enslaved - RIITIIR" 10. I'vge already voted "Enslaved" and "Be'lakor" album 10, cause I really enjoy listening to them. but it's unfair to vote 1 just because you love other album be at top of top 20
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 21.12.2012 at 21:07
Written by EMols86 on 21.12.2012 at 20:41
You can't judge an album after only 1 listen.
Mmmm, in 99% of all instances you can.
EMols86 is right, most of music need to be over heard to be judged (My opinion )
There may be an album you enjoy it from first listen then after some replay it'd be boring or vice versa
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 21.12.2012 at 21:07
Mmmm, in 99% of all instances you can.
Being a smartass or being serious? I mean, obviously you can vote after 1 listen, but I can never form an opinion after just 1 time listening to any album.
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Written by EMols86 on 21.12.2012 at 22:18
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 21.12.2012 at 21:07
Mmmm, in 99% of all instances you can.
Being a smartass or being serious? I mean, obviously you can vote after 1 listen, but I can never form an opinion after just 1 time listening to any album.
I am being serious. In 99% of all cases I can have a very formulated opinion on a n album after having only heard it once. But it has to do with 33.5 years of experience of listening to music?
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 21.12.2012 at 22:22
I am being serious. In 99% of all cases I can have a very formulated opinion on a n album after having only heard it once. But it has to do with 33.5 years of experience of listening to music?
Really... And your opinion doesn't change after you've listened to it for the 5th time for example? That's a lot more experience than I have; you can take off 30 years  That being said, I'm the complete opposite when it comes to rating music. For example: Summoning... I hated Minas Morgul (seeing as you think the band as a whole sucks, you'd agree I assume  ) the first time I heard it, though only after the 5th time or so I began to really like it.
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Written by BehzadSh on 21.12.2012 at 21:08
There are two users that voted 1, and vote "Enslaved - RIITIIR" 10. I'vge already voted "Enslaved" and "Be'lakor" album 10, cause I really enjoy listening to them. but it's unfair to vote 1 just because you love other album be at top of top 20
Yep, I noticed this too. Pathetic to do such a thing, really.  Ah well...
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 21.12.2012 at 21:07
EMols86 is right, most of music need to be over heard to be judged (My opinion )
There may be an album you enjoy it from first listen then after some replay it'd be boring or vice versa
Exactly. I have this all the time. Some albums are great the first time and are becoming less great after each listen and vice versa.
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Written by EMols86 on 21.12.2012 at 20:41
Written by Apatheria on 21.12.2012 at 01:44
Gettin' a whoooole lotta 'meh' out of this one on my first listen. Romantic death-doom that overuses weepy guitar leads, and just isn't very engaging. I will admit I typically dislike the more romantic doom bands, but I've enjoyed previous Saturnus releases. This just fails to stand out amongst the slew of great doom releases this year. Sorry guys, I don't understand the hype.
Are you being serious? You can't judge an album after only 1 listen. I'd always listen at least 3 times, but mostly 5 times before even rating an album. I began liking Saturn In Ascension way more after my 5th listen, though that's just me. Their debut is better than this, but it still destroys Veronika and Martyre easily for me.
Generally I can tell when I'm not going to like an album, even with time. I do agree with you to an extent; there are plenty of albums that have taken time to sink in with me after I had only a somewhat positive reaction to them right away. But I had a pretty solidly negative reaction to this one right off the bat, and knowing my tastes, I doubt that's going to change.
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Written by Guest on 24.12.2012 at 18:05
Meh, personaly i don't care if it doesn't make it in the top 20, even 1000 of 2012. Point is i enjoyed the atmosphere, solos and leads...
Though i must say am shocked that peeps just downvote other albums to see their favs high on the list,worse i have a hunch they haven't even listened to the albums they downvote...must be something IMPORTANT to see your fav album at the top of a metal storm list
A hunch you say, eh? I'm pretty damn sure those 3 1/10 votes come from users who haven't listened to this album, since they all give either 10/10 ratings or 1/10... and those 10/10's are often 2012 albums. Pretty dumb to downvote anyway; the rating on MS doesn't really influence my own rating, nor does the top 20 of each year influence it. If you remove those 3 1/10 ratings, this album would easily be back at #1, which means the new Enslaved album would be back at #2, so at least those trolls have succeeded in bringing this album down.
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After listening to this album 10+ times I can finally judge it properly: it's amazing. That being said, they definitely improved upon Veronika and Martyre for me in every aspect, though it's still not quite as good as their debut, which will always be a special album to me. Every track is great, but Litany Of Rain, Wind Torn, Forest Of Insomnia and Between are definitely my favourites. The other 4 tracks are great as well, but I like them slightly less. The bonus track suffers from bad production and it doesn't really fit the album, but it's still a good track. My rating would be a 9.5/10.
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Written by EMols86 on 24.12.2012 at 22:14
A hunch you say, eh? I'm pretty damn sure those 3 1/10 votes come from users who haven't listened to this album, since they all give either 10/10 ratings or 1/10... and those 10/10's are often 2012 albums. Pretty dumb to downvote anyway; the rating on MS doesn't really influence my own rating, nor does the top 20 of each year influence it. If you remove those 3 1/10 ratings, this album would easily be back at #1, which means the new Enslaved album would be back at #2, so at least those trolls have succeeded in bringing this album down.
But the new Enslaved album has seven 1 votes, so the trolls aren't confined to this new Saturnus album.
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Written by Ace Frawley on 26.12.2012 at 00:31
But the new Enslaved album has seven 1 votes, so the trolls aren't confined to this new Saturnus album.
But it also has more votes. You're right though... I checked the 2012 ratings of those 7 users and it seems they all hand out pretty extreme ratings (mostly either 10/10's or 1/10's, though 1 user has rated both Saturnus and Enslaved a 1/10).
On a side note, where the hell did De Profundis come from all of a sudden (as it's at #1 of the top 20 right now)? 
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Written by EMols86 on 26.12.2012 at 00:51
On a side note, where the hell did De Profundis come from all of a sudden (as it's at #1 of the top 20 right now)?
Must have just got its 20th vote so now qualifies for the list. With so few votes, won't take many troll votes to bring it down.
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Written by InnerSelf on 19.12.2012 at 00:20
Written by EMols86 on 18.12.2012 at 21:54
Still standing at the first position, this makes me happy
Yeah, but for how long? With idiots voting 1's it's going to drop pretty fast. Rating this album a 1/10 is unjustifiable whether you like the music or not.
Probably the longest period a Doom metal record has sat on top
I probably have never heard an album that I'd rate 1 and maybe that's because I try to stay the hell away from stuff I know I won't like.
I think the lowest I could ever rate something is a 2, and I didn't even think that was possible until I heard Lulu.
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Written by Jaeryd17 on 28.12.2012 at 09:40
I think the lowest I could ever rate something is a 2, and I didn't even think that was possible until I heard Lulu.
I'm not sure, though it's a fact that Saturn In Ascension cannot be rated even a 2/10, which equals to "pure shit". Even if this isn't your kind of music, then you still cannot call it pure shit. For example, I rated Viva Emptiness a 5/10 because I hate the vocals and lyrics. I want to rate it lower, but if there's a certain genre/style I don't like, I know I cannot really form a justified opinion on it. A 3/10 equals "very bad", which could be someone's opinion, so I'd say a 3/10 is the absolute minimum for this album.
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Written by EMols86 on 28.12.2012 at 17:05
For example, I rated Viva Emptiness a 5/10 because I hate the vocals and lyrics.
wtf? where do you live? Then I'll drive over and burn your house down
But, seriously, wtf? Viva Emptiness is by far Katatonia's best of their modern era.
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Never will get that either. Probably one of the best modern metal albums around.
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 28.12.2012 at 17:13
Written by EMols86 on 28.12.2012 at 17:05
For example, I rated Viva Emptiness a 5/10 because I hate the vocals and lyrics.
wtf? where do you live? Then I'll drive over and burn your house down
But, seriously, wtf? Viva Emptiness is by far Katatonia's best of their modern era.
EMols dude watch out he'll do it ... he'll most certainly do it.
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 28.12.2012 at 17:13
wtf? where do you live? Then I'll drive over and burn your house down
But, seriously, wtf? Viva Emptiness is by far Katatonia's best of their modern era.
Oh crap, now I've done it. You already know that I live in Tilburg, but you'll never know where exactly (at least I hope so). 
Seriously though... I can't stand the vocals and lyrics. I love everything Katatonia did up until Brave Murder Day (that album is a masterpiece and in my opinion their best). I've even given the album a second chance a while back, but I still couldn't even finish listening to it. I might give it another chance to prove it to myself.
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Written by EMols86 on 28.12.2012 at 17:50
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 28.12.2012 at 17:13
wtf? where do you live? Then I'll drive over and burn your house down
But, seriously, wtf? Viva Emptiness is by far Katatonia's best of their modern era.
Oh crap, now I've done it. You already know that I live in Tilburg, but you'll never know where exactly (at least I hope so).
Seriously though... I can't stand the vocals and lyrics. I love everything Katatonia did up until Brave Murder Day (that album is a masterpiece and in my opinion their best). I've even given the album a second chance a while back, but I still couldn't even finish listening to it. I might give it another chance to prove it to myself.
I agree that Brave Murder Day is their best and indeed a masterpiece.
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ham - 29.12.2012 at 11:16
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The album is great, still after at least 15 or more times listening to it,it still goes great!!! just compare saturnus music doom theme with other doom masters or maybe other band of other metal jenres, it easily will be more appear!! not important the album name "Satutn in Ac.." or " veronica..." ..this is just their theme which makes their releases unique and excellent.
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What is it that makes this album better than Veronika, to some of you?
I'm asking because I honestly can't point to much of a difference between their latest three albums. Paradise had its own thing going and it's still my favorite, but after that it's all in the same melodic, romantic, ever-so-slightly gothic death-doom style.
Granted, I haven't really listened to all their albums enough to decide which has the best songs or individual riffs. My gut feeling is that this album has stronger guitar leads (and pretty cool solos) than Veronika. On the other hand, I don't really like the two acoustic tracks. They feel half-cooked and would serve their purpose with several minutes shaved off of them. I wish they would blend folk into their doom rather than just shove a folk track in between two doom tracks.
I'm curious for more specific opinions about differences between the albums and why you prefer one over the other, I guess. Either way, I'm enjoying this a lot and it's growing on me more. Sitting at a strong 3,5/5 right now.
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Really wanted to like this more. There are some solid moments but overall, meh. I love Laurie Ann Haus and she sounds great but DAMN that song is cheesy as hell! Spoken word on a piano-based doom ballad? "Too much fucking emo" to quote a far better (former) doom band.
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Been thinking of giving this album a listen because of all the attention it's been getting on this site, and the high-rating (albeit falsely achieved by some weirdos with nothing better to do with their time). But then I heard about this emo stuff and the piano and will now definitely give it a miss. Piano - big turn off for me. If I want to hear piano, I'll go and listen to Elton John. Sorry guys.
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Written by Ace Frawley on 01.01.2013 at 10:20
Piano - big turn off for me. If I want to hear piano, I'll go and listen to Elton John. Sorry guys.
Weird post considering Be'lakor is among your favourites on this site.
Anyway, I stopped listening at halfway mostly because of the music not having enough substance beyond the vocals that sounded either bland or forced a lot of the time. The spoken sections sound like too much effort put into correct pronounciation rather than expressing emotion.
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Susan - 01.01.2013 at 14:47
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Written by Guest on 01.01.2013 at 10:07
Written by Susan on 01.01.2013 at 02:27
Really wanted to like this more. There are some solid moments but overall, meh. I love Laurie Ann Haus and she sounds great but DAMN that song is cheesy as hell! Spoken word on a piano-based doom ballad? "Too much fucking emo" to quote a far better (former) doom band.
hehe, what band said that? I read a review can't remember where, it said saturnus is doom death for teens and can even be material for emo and "oh,the world hates me"goth teens to slit their wrists to.
Katatonia, Last Fair Deal Gone Down, "Passing Bird"
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Written by Susan on 01.01.2013 at 14:47
Written by Guest on 01.01.2013 at 10:07
Written by Susan on 01.01.2013 at 02:27
Really wanted to like this more. There are some solid moments but overall, meh. I love Laurie Ann Haus and she sounds great but DAMN that song is cheesy as hell! Spoken word on a piano-based doom ballad? "Too much fucking emo" to quote a far better (former) doom band.
hehe, what band said that? I read a review can't remember where, it said saturnus is doom death for teens and can even be material for emo and "oh,the world hates me"goth teens to slit their wrists to.
Katatonia, Last Fair Deal Gone Down, "Passing Bird"
Even though that Katatonia album is still good, current day Katatonia isn't even allowed to be in the same room looking at Saturnus  And even that album is nowhere near as good as Saturn In Ascension
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Susan - 01.01.2013 at 15:10
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 01.01.2013 at 15:01
Even though that Katatonia album is still good, current day Katatonia isn't even allowed to be in the same room looking at Saturnus And even that album is nowhere near as good as Saturn In Ascension
Marcel, does that mean you're parting your hair on the far side of your head, brushing it across your forehead, wearing eye liner, and hanging with the emo kids now? Cute!
I'll take that era Katatonia over this juvenile little escapade into teen doom ANY day of the week.
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Written by Susan on 01.01.2013 at 15:10
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 01.01.2013 at 15:01
Even though that Katatonia album is still good, current day Katatonia isn't even allowed to be in the same room looking at Saturnus And even that album is nowhere near as good as Saturn In Ascension
Marcel, does that mean you're parting your hair on the far side of your head, brushing it across your forehead, wearing eye liner, and hanging with the emo kids now? Cute!
I'll take that era Katatonia over this juvenile little escapade into teen doom ANY day of the week.
Katatonia plays the teen emo doom, especially nowadays Plus katatonia could only dream of ever coming halfway Saturnus' guitar playing both riffwise as solos.
Saturnus is death doom with some gothic touches like they have always done, except now the guitar work is lots better than before.
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As for the crowds Saturnus draws, well it is clear that people who say that "Saturnus plays death doom for teens and can even be material for emo and "oh,the world hates me"goth teens to slit their wrists to." have never seen Saturnus live or in this case Katatonia live. Since Saturnus draws mostly older crowds that love life and party hard whereas kataonia has loads of those emo teens at their gigs
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 01.01.2013 at 15:21
whereas kataonia has loads of those emo teens at their gigs
Haven't seen Saturnus... But I can testify this part. 
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Written by Blizk on 01.01.2013 at 13:43
Written by Ace Frawley on 01.01.2013 at 10:20
Piano - big turn off for me. If I want to hear piano, I'll go and listen to Elton John. Sorry guys.
Weird post considering Be'lakor is among your favourites on this site.
Anyway, I stopped listening at halfway mostly because of the music not having enough substance beyond the vocals that sounded either bland or forced a lot of the time. The spoken sections sound like too much effort put into correct pronounciation rather than expressing emotion.
Someone said piano, so that was the context of my remark. I've never listened to this album, so maybe they meant keyboards, in the same way keyboards are prominent in Be'lakor's work. I make a distinction between synthesized keyboards and piano.
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Written by IronAngel on 31.12.2012 at 00:39
What is it that makes this album better than Veronika, to some of you?
I can see this album being compared with Veronica, but Martyre is almost completely different from the rest of the discography. Martyre is more gothic in nature than it's doom, with the clean guitars and shorter tracks lengths, it's probably the less Doomy stuff they've done.
I still prefer Veronica over Saturn In Ascension, I think because the former was more varied but the songwriting is almost of the same quality.
I also agree that this album with Martyre sound a lot like 90s stuff but I think Veronica sounds more Modern and fits the period in which it was released.
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Written by InnerSelf on 02.01.2013 at 00:35
Martyre is almost completely different from the rest of the discography. Martyre is more gothic in nature that it's doom, the clean guitars and shorter tracks lengths, it's probably the less Doomy stuff they've done.
I've only heard Martyre and this one and I can only agree here, sounded like listening to a different band altogether. Must say I enjoyed Martyre more as it sounds pretty unique to me.
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 01.01.2013 at 15:19
Written by Susan on 01.01.2013 at 15:10
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 01.01.2013 at 15:01
Even though that Katatonia album is still good, current day Katatonia isn't even allowed to be in the same room looking at Saturnus And even that album is nowhere near as good as Saturn In Ascension
Marcel, does that mean you're parting your hair on the far side of your head, brushing it across your forehead, wearing eye liner, and hanging with the emo kids now? Cute!
I'll take that era Katatonia over this juvenile little escapade into teen doom ANY day of the week.
Katatonia plays the teen emo doom, especially nowadays Plus katatonia could only dream of ever coming halfway Saturnus' guitar playing both riffwise as solos.
Saturnus is death doom with some gothic touches like they have always done, except now the guitar work is lots better than before.
Ugh...  "juvenile little escapade"? There's not a single shred of emo to be found in Saturnus' music. The fact that it's even compared to that horrible excuse of a music genre is a little ridiculous. Katatonia's best years were the first few years (1991-1997) in which they made Dance Of December Souls and Brave Murder Day (along with those three great EP's of course!).
So yeah, I agree 100% with Marcel here. I've seen Saturnus live (just once, but still) and I was probably the youngest person in the room. And yeah, Saturn In Ascension is a big step forward in quality compared to Veronika and especially Martyre. By the way Marcel, what would you rate it?
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Written by Guest on 01.01.2013 at 17:30
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 01.01.2013 at 15:21
As for the crowds Saturnus draws, well it is clear that people who say that "Saturnus plays death doom for teens and can even be material for emo and "oh,the world hates me"goth teens to slit their wrists to." have never seen Saturnus live or in this case Katatonia live. Since Saturnus draws mostly older crowds that love life and party hard whereas kataonia has loads of those emo teens at their gigs
hehe, glad someone who has seen them live clarified on that issue.. i haven't touched on Katatonia yet but now am going to check them just to hear which is more "emo"
Dude, I know your musical taste a bit. I'm going to recommend you to start off with Brave Murder Day (an absolute masterpiece), then Dance Of December Souls (amazing record as well). And after that you can listen to whatever album you like, because I cannot recommend albums I dislike or don't know. And as I've said in my previous message, I saw them live too and the average age was 30+ for sure... and Katatonia seems to be more emo going off on the crowd at their gigs. Don't even want to see Katatonia live unless they play a lot of songs from their first few albums.
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Written by Guest on 03.01.2013 at 08:29
Written by R'Vannith on 02.01.2013 at 12:37
Must say I enjoyed Martyre more since it is the most gothic.
fixed for accuracy.
hehe, i could have easily guessed that matyre is your fav,, remember Ava Inferi :-)
Yeah I enjoy the more gothic sound in Martyre, I'd also say they sound pretty unique when you stack them up against other gothic bands. Strong sense of individuality there.
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Written by Guest on 03.01.2013 at 08:22
yea, from other album talks and ratings i'm going to trust you on this one..
But don't let me stop you from listening to Katatonia's other albums, as you might enjoy those too.
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