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| Rating: 9 |
Written by Timmeh on 01.06.2012 at 04:50
Written by Nightfall on 01.06.2012 at 03:32
It doesn't hold a candle to Stone's Reach. It's only my first listen...
Give it some more spins on my first listen I probably would of only rated 7/8, but now I enjoy it more than SR (Stone's Reach). I think its just more beefy than SR, more choc filled with melodies etc. Remember that amazing outro to Countless Skies when there is what seems like 5+melodies working together in unison? That sort of thing is going on constantly on this album compared to SR where it happens far less, this is why I say this album is more beefed out.
Also after more listens you'll start to anticipate very memorable sections (and there is a lot of those!).
I'm really surpirsed at this constructive advice. I'll give it another spin today.
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| Rating: 10 |
I was a fan of Stone's Reach. Of Breath and Bone made me a fan of Be'lakor.
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| Rating: 9 |
Written by Troy Killjoy on 01.06.2012 at 20:51
Written by InnerSelf on 01.06.2012 at 14:34
Just when I gave up on Melodeath
That's what I felt like right before listening to this. 
It's weird, I used to get a hard on listening to Dark Tranquility, old-Arch Enemy, Insomnium but no other band seemed to offer something that would entice me as much until Belakor showed up ... Stone's Reach was fresh and highly enjoyable and this album is blowing my mind right now
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 JÄY - 02.06.2012 at 07:21
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| Rating: 8 |
In my mind, I don't think of AUS as being that different from USA...then I listen to this.
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| Rating: 10 |
Written by Timmeh on 01.06.2012 at 04:50
Written by Nightfall on 01.06.2012 at 03:32
It doesn't hold a candle to Stone's Reach. It's only my first listen...
Give it some more spins on my first listen I probably would of only rated 7/8, but now I enjoy it more than SR (Stone's Reach). I think its just more beefy than SR, more choc filled with melodies etc. Remember that amazing outro to Countless Skies when there is what seems like 5+melodies working together in unison? That sort of thing is going on constantly on this album compared to SR where it happens far less, this is why I say this album is more beefed out.
Also after more listens you'll start to anticipate very memorable sections (and there is a lot of those!).
Hadn't waited for any other album like I'd waited for this - Stone's Reach was just so superior to anything else I've heard... have to say this was a bit disappointing, though less so than Orwarrior was or what I can only assume Wintersun is going to be this year. I don't agree it's as layered as SR, too many single track acoustic and keys passages for my liking. The more noticeable difference in song writing is the sudden use of off-scale sharps and flats in the chord progression - a little harder to get into so I need to give it a few more spins, but don't think it fits into their brand of MDM... But I'm shamelessly salivating over the drums being gleefully identical to SR. On that note, can't really understand why people expected/wanted something radically different from SR? I only wanted one more SR clone so I can stop wearing out my SR CD!
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| Rating: 9 |
Written by Nervosa Aeturnus on 02.06.2012 at 07:42
Hadn't waited for any other album like I'd waited for this - Stone's Reach was just so superior to anything else I've heard... have to say this was a bit disappointing, though less so than Orwarrior was or what I can only assume Wintersun is going to be this year. I don't agree it's as layered as SR, too many single track acoustic and keys passages for my liking. The more noticeable difference in song writing is the sudden use of off-scale sharps and flats in the chord progression - a little harder to get into so I need to give it a few more spins, but don't think it fits into their brand of MDM... But I'm shamelessly salivating over the drums being gleefully identical to SR. On that note, can't really understand why people expected/wanted something radically different from SR? I only wanted one more SR clone so I can stop wearing out my SR CD!
I listened through the whole of SR again yesterday and it seemed drier and less dense than I remember it being and I'm blaming that on OBaB. In regards to OBaB I didn't notice an overload of single track passages at all, and the ones that were used set up the next sequence nicely (see In Parting middish way through). I also really enjoyed the keys seeming more evident throughout most the album it adds a whole extra element in my mind making the music seem more complete. It just seems like more of a whole band effort with the instruments conforming and binding nicely on this album often creating the illusion that there is more concurrent tracks than there is instruments (the vocal sections seemed improved and well placed as well). Some of the sections from the last 3 songs are just gobsmacking.
Either way SR is a boss album that's for sure and one of my all time favourites. I agree with you on the drums to, gotta love that fancy cymbal work  .
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| Rating: 10 |
Pretty damn impressive!
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| Rating: 10 |
It sounds better after each listening ...
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| Rating: 9 |
Http://youtu.be/Vnzqy28H50s
listen to the complete album here 
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| Rating: 8 |
This is sounding lifeless in comparison to Stone's Reach. Where's the character gone, with so many different influences. And where did the atmosphere go? Those melodies are grabbing me much more immediately though.
I hope it all changes but it sounds very bare bones to me at the moment.
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JÄY - 03.06.2012 at 18:07
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| Rating: 8 |
I used to be able to enjoy this kind of deep, complex music before I had kids, but now I find find myself wishing it was more straight forward and to the point. Maybe some of you with 1 hour of music listening time per day and agree.
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| Rating: 10 |
The world has until December to give me a better album than this.
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| Rating: 10 |
Written by JÄY on 03.06.2012 at 18:07
I used to be able to enjoy this kind of deep, complex music before I had kids, but now I find find myself wishing it was more straight forward and to the point. Maybe some of you with 1 hour of music listening time per day and agree.
Sounds like you need to get an hour to yourself. All I'm reading is "I havent given this album a chance yet"
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| Rating: 9 |
Written by Zealot644 on 04.06.2012 at 03:54
All I'm reading is "I havent given this album a chance yet"
Maybe because he can't..?
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| Rating: 10 |
Written by Zaphod on 04.06.2012 at 09:08
Written by Zealot644 on 04.06.2012 at 03:54
All I'm reading is "I havent given this album a chance yet"
Maybe because he can't..?
The only reason I said that is because what was written is stupid and doesnt show anything. What's the point to saying "Havent listened yet, meh." ?
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K†ulu - 04.06.2012 at 14:31
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| Rating: 5 |
Written by JÄY on 03.06.2012 at 18:07
I used to be able to enjoy this kind of deep, complex music before I had kids, but now I find find myself wishing it was more straight forward and to the point. Maybe some of you with 1 hour of music listening time per day and agree.
I don't really see anything complex in this album; in fact, some sort of complexity and innovation is something that I am really missing here...
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| Rating: 8 |
If you are very concentrate in the album for sure you never be bored, very rich in melodies, with riffs almost perfect ... but It don't impressed me so much .. I really prefer Stone's Reach for it pleasant innovative sound
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| Rating: 10 |
Dude these guys are on a fucking roll for sure... 10/10 for me! cant stop listening to it
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| Rating: 10 |
This shit is beefy... its basically like a beef cake... but metal...
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| Rating: 10 |
Written by InnerSelf on 01.06.2012 at 14:34
Just when I gave up on Melodeath
that's alright, at least we have HavoK for you...
BTW i like both...
hope you like thrash or I'll look like a dick...
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| Rating: 9 |
Written by SWAMPL0RD on 06.06.2012 at 09:50
that's alright, at least we have HavoK for you...
BTW i like both...
hope you like thrash or I'll look like a dick...
I haven't really ventured that much into thrash, so we'll have to wait and see if you're indeed a dick 
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| Rating: 10 |
2 people rated "5" ?!?!? :-)
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Quite a boring album, and I loved Stone's Reach.
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Written by InnerSelf on 06.06.2012 at 14:12
I haven't really ventured that much into thrash, so we'll have to wait and see if you're indeed a dick
If you're going to venture into thrash don't start with that watered down revivalist crap. (Havok, Evile, Warbringer, etc.)
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| Rating: 9 |
Written by Troy Killjoy on 06.06.2012 at 17:18
Written by InnerSelf on 06.06.2012 at 14:12
I haven't really ventured that much into thrash, so we'll have to wait and see if you're indeed a dick
If you're going to venture into thrash don't start with that watered down revivalist crap. (Havok, Evile, Warbringer, etc.)
Mikyz made a kick ass thrash list, will probably start from there.
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| Rating: 6 |
Its so weird for me that I actually like this band, because they remind me of a refined version of Amon Amarth (a band i freekin despise). Sort of Amon Amarth minus the predictable riffs and vikingness and a bit of Insomnium in there somewhere as well.
I can definitely see why everyone rates it so highly, even though Im not sure why I do.
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| Rating: 10 |
Written by InnerSelf on 06.06.2012 at 18:01
Written by Troy Killjoy on 06.06.2012 at 17:18
Written by InnerSelf on 06.06.2012 at 14:12
I haven't really ventured that much into thrash, so we'll have to wait and see if you're indeed a dick
If you're going to venture into thrash don't start with that watered down revivalist crap. (Havok, Evile, Warbringer, etc.)
Mikyz made a kick ass thrash list, will probably start from there.
Yeah i'd start with old slayer, metallica, megadeth, anthrax myself
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| Rating: 10 |
Written by Troy Killjoy on 06.06.2012 at 17:18
Written by InnerSelf on 06.06.2012 at 14:12
I haven't really ventured that much into thrash, so we'll have to wait and see if you're indeed a dick
If you're going to venture into thrash don't start with that watered down revivalist crap. (Havok, Evile, Warbringer, etc.)
Havok is still a really good band
reminds me of Flotsam and Jetsam
hardcore bay area thrash metal ...but from Colorado duuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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| Rating: 8 |
This album is starting to grow on me. Makes me proud to be an Aussie that a band of this quality can come from our humble little country.
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| Rating: 6 |
A boring album IMO, I guess I am destined to never like Melodeath.
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Written by OpethRules on 06.06.2012 at 16:32
2 people rated "5" ?!?!? :-)
D: Someone has a different opinion than you?!?!?!
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| Rating: 10 |
A huge improvement! I would give a 7 to both previous albums but this one deserves 9 or10 because their music no longer evokes a 'generic' feeling and the production quality is significantly higher as well. 
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Written by BoxCar Willy on 09.06.2012 at 00:40
D: Someone has a different opinion than you?!?!?!
But
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That
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Written by SWAMPL0RD on 07.06.2012 at 08:58
Havok is still a really good band
reminds me of Flotsam and Jetsam
hardcore bay area thrash metal ...but from Colorado duuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrr
what is the connection between Flotsam and Jetsam and the Bay Area 
nothing at all, also not in sound en geographically they are from Arizona 
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| Rating: 8 |
As it currently stands, the rating will put this in the top 40. Only needs another seven votes to make the top 200 list.
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Written by Ace Frawley on 10.06.2012 at 07:11
As it currently stands, the rating will put this in the top 40. Only needs another seven votes to make the top 200 list
#36 as of 200 votes.
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This the top album of 2012?
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 10.06.2012 at 16:24
This the top album of 2012?
Are you even surprised?  It's a melodeath album.
Apparently it's the 39th greatest album of all time too...
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Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 10.06.2012 at 16:29
Are you even surprised? It's a melodeath album.
Not really surprised no since somehow this band has been overrated like hell here on MS also for their first couple of albums.
And of course it's generic melodeath as well which the punters lap up like mad dogs.
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Blizk - 10.06.2012 at 17:51
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 10.06.2012 at 16:38
And of course it's generic melodeath as well which the punters lap up like mad dogs.
Now everyone's shocked.
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| Rating: 8 |
Sounds too hollow. Yes those riffs and melodies are damned impressive but there is very little to nothing behind them to build an atmosphere with like on the previous album. Stone's Reach was easily better overall I think.
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 10.06.2012 at 16:38
And of course it's generic melodeath as well which the punters lap up like mad dogs.
Any one of us could argue the majority of metal you listen to is just as generic. Tried and true melodeath isn't any less innovative than revivalist death or traditional doom in my opinion. And to top it off so that it doesn't seem like I'm trying to single you out, this applies to most of the black metal I listen to as well. I'm just trying to illustrate the point that a lot of the music you bash suffers from the same problems as the music you love.
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Great album, but 35th of all time? I guess it's being over rated now :|
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Blizk - 11.06.2012 at 11:21
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Written by The Melting Snow on 11.06.2012 at 11:03
Great album, but 35th of all time? I guess it's being over rated now :|
Stone's Reach still has more than twice the amount of votes and it's at 8.90 (72nd), that rating is pretty much in contention.
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| Rating: 6 |
Been listening to the album quite profusely the last 2 weeks and I must admit it becomes boring pretty quickly. Theres interesting moments, but everything is just so "samey" the whole time. It was the same for me with Stone's Reach where I really loved "From Scythe To Sceptre" and "Venator", but from there everything quickly blends into 40 minutes of indisinguisible mid-paced metal.
Perhaps this is an album which is a good listen every 3 months or so. Definitely not something I can spin over and over like many other albums.
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Lit. - 11.06.2012 at 21:53
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#33 in the top 200?
The fanboys are invading! Kill it before it becomes the next Septicflesh!
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Written by Lit. on 11.06.2012 at 21:53
#33 in the top 200?
The fanboys are invading! Kill it before it becomes the next Septicflesh!
Soon another melodic band will release an album that will be running for top album of 2012 and it's stupid fanboys will rate this album '1'
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