14:09 - Zaphod Ok, bad example, but you get the point. Metalcore has metal in it, so it's metal for me.
14:07 - Zaphod Yeah and Ensiferum is metal mixed with Finnish folk music, both genres have metal in them.
14:00 - Hex_Omega Well Metalcore is Metal mixed with Hardcore. It is something different, theoretically.
13:58 - Hex_Omega Nu Metal bands can be controversial for some metalheads and thats why I am not surprised that they don't have Slipknot on their site. However their music is metal.
13:56 - Zaphod Yeah, that's what I meant with 'true metal' (not that I agree with them, for the record) It confuses me how some people don't consider metalcore metal. Sure, you might not like it, but that doesn't mean it's not metal.
01. The Tragedy Within 02. Beyond Inner Sleep 03. A Deadly Path 04. Passage 05. Dead Emotion [Paradise Lost cover] 06. Hypia 07. 2nd War In Heaven 08. A Desire To Leave 1 - Obscurity 2 - Surrounding Hell 3 - ...Of Leaving
Summoning The Bygones is another one of those releases that feels like it's a lot of really interesting, well-thought out components, combined together make an underwhelming experience, all things considered.
I understood that this is a re-recording of their debut plus a couple of new songs (and Dan Swano as a guest vocalist). should be interesting but I kinda wished that they would move on from their older stuff and build upon the great Sudden Death Syndrome
The drumming on this album sucked for me. boring as hell, i love the guitar playing and general atmosphere but the drumming killed it for me. you keep thinking "oh man this would be a great time for a nice black metal fill here or there" and it never comes.