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Release date: 28 September 2012
Style: Atmospheric black metal

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Disc I
01. Jind De Tronuri
02. Flăcărarii
03. E-an-na
04. Calea Rotilor De Foc
05. Pândarul
06. Zuh
07. Cumpăt
08. Dojana

Disc II [digipak bonus]
01. Zuh - Cu Tunetul Muntilor
02. Cumpat
03. Ruun [Enslaved cover]

Disc III [bonus DVD]
+ Interview feature & making of

Top 20 albums of 2012: 7

Review
Lyrics (4)


Line-up
Edmond "Hupogrammos Disciple's" Karban - vocals, guitar, keyboards, traditional instruments
Christian "Sol Faur Spurcatu" Popescu - guitars, hammered dulcimer, keyboards, xylophone
Ovidiu Mihăiţă - drums, percussion
Sergio Ponti - drums
Flavius Misarăş - bass


Additional info

Formats:
  • Jewel Case CD: Budget edition with 8-page booklet and no extras.

  • Digipak 2CD: Premium edition in 2CD Digipak with extended 20-page booklet, and also including a bonus CD with an Enslaved cover song and the tracks of the sold out EP Valea Omului.

  • Limited book 2CD/DVD: Collector's edition in approximately 25 x 25 cm book with 48 pages. Includes a bonus MCD with the Enslaved cover song and the tracks of the sold out EP Valea Omului + DVD with 70 minutes of interviews and making of. Limited to 777 copies.

  • Limited gatefold 2LP: Vinyl edition on heavy 180 g vinyl with poster and PVC protection sleeve. Special vinyl mastering. Limited to 500 copies.

Guest review by
Apothecary

Rating:
9.0
In the common mindset, when a fire burns something to ashes, said thing is completely destroyed, never to return. And yet, in European mythology, we are told that the mythological phoenix, upon nearing old age, bursts into flames... only to be reborn from its ashes, to begin life anew with a fresh energy and spiritual vitality. From the creative ashes of Romanian black metal legends Negură Bunget, rose the phoenix of Dordeduh, the new project of former members Sol Faur and Huppogramus; it both pays tribute to the band of their origin and yet also transcends it. Dordeduh are by no means whatsoever easy to digest, and nor is their debut album. And yet, as was the case with Negură Bunget, this sense of mystery is part of what adds to the band's overall formula of fantastic music. For Dar De Duh is quite simply the type of album that's like an elaborately-crafted painting. You have to look it over several times to fully absorb its entire beauty, but once you take it in for all it's worth, you'll be absolutely amazed.

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published 21.11.2012 | Comments (11)

Staff pick by
BitterCOld

25.10.2012 First full length from the former primary creative influences of Negura Bunget. I had high hopes and Sol Faur and Hupogrammos don't disappoint. If you enjoyed the cosmically wonderful "OM", odds are you'll find this nearly as entrancing.

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Boxcar Willy - 08.05.2012 at 22:24  
  Atmo black with a xylophone?

This is a must hear.
BitterCOld - 08.05.2012 at 23:44  
Rating: 9 Cannot wait to see what the primary creative impetuses of Negura Bunget can do.
BitterCOld - 09.05.2012 at 23:37  
Rating: 9
Written by TheAtheist85 on 09.05.2012 at 22:44

Written by BitterCOld on 08.05.2012 at 23:44

Cannot wait to see what the primary creative impetuses of Negura Bunget can do.


this will be a masterpiece, like I said...have you seen the interview ?


at over an hour? cannot say i have. i have seen interviews about the OM process before.
Czerny Reiter - 16.05.2012 at 00:21  
Rating: 9 Them having made ample time before releasing this as well as the possible perception that they may have something to prove over their old bandmates both bode rather well for this release's quality.
Oaken - 12.06.2012 at 03:10  
Rating: 9 I've just listened to the EP and this is as strong as the material on OM. Hopefully it will be a great album.
strade - 24.09.2012 at 03:30  
  Oh fuck yes, I've been waiting so long for this. I can't wait to absorb their latest work. Gotta love it when two phenomenal bands release an album on the same day.
Bad English - 28.09.2012 at 20:33  
  Something is wrong here.... mayeb because I dont knowe nothing aboutc romanian folklore, I wanna know more, I dont speek rimanuans, this album was like 3 parts
1 BM part
2 Folk music part
3 calling to ancestors, shaman dance

all blend into this albu and in all songs you see all 3 parts

If it would be german or scaninav it would be higer rankings, big let down is Im not romanian I know only dracula and you need to kill wampire whit some wood at his heart, so not knowing folklore is hard to understand
MetalDoomMaster - 30.09.2012 at 18:24  
Rating: 9 Wow this Ruun cover is awesome
LiliPop - 30.09.2012 at 20:12  
Rating: 10 Wow, I am impressed! I haven't really heard anything like 'Dar de duh', this is one of the very very few albums that get a 10/10 from me...
I love enslaved's RIITIIR, but this one takes the cake, superb melody, composition is very diverse and surprising, sound is crystal clear, you never know in which way the song will be going. I love how it has everything, but the kitchen sink in it... BM passages, progressive, folk, chanting, from raw to clear gregorian-like vocals and a whole lot of interesting instruments. This is most probably the best album for me this year.
!J.O.O.E.! - 02.10.2012 at 17:24  
Rating: 8 Yeah this is definitely competition for Enslaved. With Enslaved you can sit back and let it happen, whereas here you kind of have to pay attention. To me this is like Om pt. 2, in terms of quality anyway.
R'Vannith - 02.10.2012 at 17:30  
Rating: 8 Om the 2nd ey? Must check this out.
!J.O.O.E.! - 02.10.2012 at 17:35  
Rating: 8
Written by R'Vannith on 02.10.2012 at 17:30

Om the 2nd ey? Must check this out.

Well don't quote me on that (even though I did say it!). There are differences, it's more of a vibe and general sense of expansiveness that makes me think of Om.
R'Vannith - 02.10.2012 at 17:39  
Rating: 8
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 02.10.2012 at 17:35

Well don't quote me on that (even though I did say it!). There are differences, it's more of a vibe and general sense of expansiveness that makes me think of Om.


Sounds like I should definitely check it out nonetheless, I wasn't aware that this band was related to Negura Bunget, and I did really like Om.
Ag Fox - 02.10.2012 at 18:35  
Rating: 8 Too much in the queue in terms of things to listen to.
We are spoilt really...
JÄY - 02.10.2012 at 23:45  
Rating: 9
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 02.10.2012 at 17:35

Well don't quote me on that (even though I did say it!). There are differences, it's more of a vibe and general sense of expansiveness that makes me think of Om.


Don't be scared, Jew.... its totally OM pt. 2... and it's awesome
InnerSelf - 03.10.2012 at 00:39  
Rating: 9
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 02.10.2012 at 17:24

Yeah this is definitely competition for Enslaved. With Enslaved you can sit back and let it happen, whereas here you kind of have to pay attention. To me this is like Om pt. 2, in terms of quality anyway.

Agreed, it's challenging and needs multiple listens to get through the layers, though the atmosphere grabs you from the first listen.
Dark†SymphonY - 04.10.2012 at 11:40  
  I really like what I'm hearing from this album. Need to check this out more.
Fredd - 04.10.2012 at 17:27  
Rating: 9 Checking this out tonight.
Marcus - 04.10.2012 at 21:20  
  Although I may have been the only person to have liked recent Negura Bunget, it's undeniable how much better this album is.
Unhealer - 05.10.2012 at 00:12  
  I'm definitely getting this one, I need to listen to it a bit more to comprehend it but I can tell it's amazing.
Czerny Reiter - 06.10.2012 at 06:57  
Rating: 9 I see I'm not the only one to be left wildly impressed by this...

Third listen in and I think I like this even better than Om... seems more atmo and less black overall.

Only album thus far to (possibly) turn Enslaved into a dark horse in the run for the money. And that's saying a lot right there.
anon - 06.10.2012 at 14:10  
  At my fifth listen.It is indeed what I was hoping for.
Fredd - 06.10.2012 at 23:39  
Rating: 9 Better than OM.
Pazdzioch - 07.10.2012 at 22:33  
  This is great, but there is no chance in comparison with "OM" - one of the very few albums that changed my perception of music.
Marcel Hubregtse - 07.10.2012 at 22:44  
 
Written by Fredd on 06.10.2012 at 23:39

Better than OM.



No way. OM is still superior to this although this one is very good.
Fredd - 08.10.2012 at 17:01  
Rating: 9 Objectively speaking, I like this more.
!J.O.O.E.! - 08.10.2012 at 17:16  
Rating: 8 I prefer this to Om as well. Hell, 'n Crugu Bradului was Negura Bunget's masterpiece, not Om. Far better album if you ask me.
InnerSelf - 09.10.2012 at 01:14  
Rating: 9 I am as well be on Dordeduh's team.
Marcel Hubregtse - 09.10.2012 at 07:20  
 
Written by Fredd on 08.10.2012 at 17:01

Objectively speaking, I like this more.


Subjectively speaking
Fredd - 09.10.2012 at 07:50  
Rating: 9
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 09.10.2012 at 07:20

Subjectively speaking

I mean, taking only the music into account, regardless of which one came first and which one "changed how I view music."
Marcel Hubregtse - 09.10.2012 at 07:51  
 
Written by Fredd on 09.10.2012 at 07:50

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 09.10.2012 at 07:20

Subjectively speaking

I mean, taking only the music into account, regardless of which one came first and which one "changed how I view music."


Which is still subjective and not objective
A personal opinion is never objective
Fredd - 09.10.2012 at 08:26  
Rating: 9
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 09.10.2012 at 07:51

Which is still subjective and not objective
A personal opinion is never objective

I know. I was going to edit that into my comment, but yea. So let me rephrase: "Looking objectively at both albums, I subjectively conclude that Dar De Duh is a better album than OM."
Fredd - 09.10.2012 at 19:29  
Rating: 9
Written by EthicaOdini85 on 09.10.2012 at 19:27

my dear fredd...I must say that you know nothing about rating an album...this isn't a better album than OM...the truth should be revealed to you in time by the ratings of the other members here on this site

Fredd - 09.10.2012 at 19:32  
Rating: 9
Written by EthicaOdini85 on 09.10.2012 at 19:31

you should be banned from this site because you give this album an unreal value !

I'm quite honestly not sure if you are serious. I'll assume you're not, and laugh
Fredd - 09.10.2012 at 19:35  
Rating: 9
Written by EthicaOdini85 on 09.10.2012 at 19:34

I'm afraid I am

OK. I respect your opinion.
InnerSelf - 09.10.2012 at 19:58  
Rating: 9
Written by Fredd on 09.10.2012 at 19:35

Written by EthicaOdini85 on 09.10.2012 at 19:34

I'm afraid I am

OK. I respect your opinion.

You should be banned for respecting an opinion, and this is my opinion which you should not respect.
Fredd - 09.10.2012 at 20:02  
Rating: 9
Written by InnerSelf on 09.10.2012 at 19:58

You should be banned for respecting an opinion, and this is my opinion which you should not respect.

Yay, that means I'm not getting banned.
Cynic Metalhead - 09.10.2012 at 20:03  
 
Written by InnerSelf on 09.10.2012 at 19:58

Written by Fredd on 09.10.2012 at 19:35

Written by EthicaOdini85 on 09.10.2012 at 19:34

I'm afraid I am

OK. I respect your opinion.

You should be banned for respecting an opinion, and this is my opinion which you should not respect.


Honestly, I don't respect your any opinion. If you respect my opinion, I'll respect you a lot.
MechanisT - 10.10.2012 at 23:08  
  ^ AHEM... is it me or... wellyouknowwhatanyways
InnerSelf - 11.10.2012 at 00:31  
Rating: 9
Written by MechanisT on 10.10.2012 at 23:08

^ AHEM... is it me or... wellyouknowwhatanyways

It's definitely not you :|
To get back on topic ... I have heard this 5 or 6 times until now and I still find new things every time I listen to it, a monster of an album.
MechanisT - 11.10.2012 at 00:33  
 
Written by InnerSelf on 11.10.2012 at 00:31

Written by MechanisT on 10.10.2012 at 23:08

^ AHEM... is it me or... wellyouknowwhatanyways

It's definitely not you :|
To get back on topic ... I have heard this 5 or 6 times until now and I still find new things every time I listen to it, a monster of an album.


Uhh... well, actually, I wanted to point something out without being too discrete. :|
R'Vannith - 11.10.2012 at 12:15  
Rating: 8
Written by MechanisT on 11.10.2012 at 00:33

Uhh... well, actually, I wanted to point something out without being too discrete. :|


I think I know what you are getting at there Mech.

About this album, I would agree that it isn't as good as Om, though the atmosphere is certainly on the same level. Just a lot less going on I think, there isn't as much prog black happening, more of an atmospheric folk.
IronAngel - 11.10.2012 at 12:38  
  By the way, Fredd was perfectly in line when he said "Objectively speaking, I like this more." If we put aside the mess that is the meaning of "objective" and "subjective" (two of the most abused words in our language), there's nothing problematic about saying your preference is an objective state of affairs. It's a psychological state that can be observed and experienced. If Fredd likes this better, he likes this better, and that fact doesn't change based on your perspective. "Subject A prefers X over Y" is not unlike saying "the patient is having an epileptic seizure", and both can theoretically be observed with enough data.

Whether he should like this better is another matter. I wouldn't say it's so much about subjective vs objective as it is about descriptive and normative.

He could have lied or he could have been mistaken, though. But usually you're right about your personal preferences, so I'm inclined to say not only was his statement a valid objective statement but it was also true.

About the album: dunno, nice enough.
Marcel Hubregtse - 11.10.2012 at 18:42  
 
Written by EthicaOdini85 on 11.10.2012 at 18:34

fredd is simply a stupid kid


says the totally stupid one
Fredd - 11.10.2012 at 19:07  
Rating: 9
Written by IronAngel on 11.10.2012 at 12:38

By the way, Fredd was perfectly in line when he said "Objectively speaking, I like this more." If we put aside the mess that is the meaning of "objective" and "subjective" (two of the most abused words in our language), there's nothing problematic about saying your preference is an objective state of affairs. It's a psychological state that can be observed and experienced. If Fredd likes this better, he likes this better, and that fact doesn't change based on your perspective. "Subject A prefers X over Y" is not unlike saying "the patient is having an epileptic seizure", and both can theoretically be observed with enough data.

Whether he should like this better is another matter. I wouldn't say it's so much about subjective vs objective as it is about descriptive and normative.

He could have lied or he could have been mistaken, though. But usually you're right about your personal preferences, so I'm inclined to say not only was his statement a valid objective statement but it was also true.

About the album: dunno, nice enough.

I agree that "Objective vs Subjective" is a mess but I didnt mean it that way (I'm not a native speaker of this language) You and Marcel are both right as it seems to me, by the way.
Anyway, I meant "looking at both albums only by the merit of their musical content and not by their history, influences or impact (this is what I meant by objective), I liked (subjective here; me) Dar De Duh better." ON TOPIC: yes, I preferred this album's folky atmosphere.

IronAngel - 11.10.2012 at 19:18  
  Yeah but to be accurate, it's not a subjective statement to say "I like." The liking itself may be your personal, subjective reaction, but it's a very objective fact that you like or don't like something.

That may be semantics, but Marcel started it!
Fredd - 11.10.2012 at 19:27  
Rating: 9
Written by IronAngel on 11.10.2012 at 19:18

Yeah but to be accurate, it's not a subjective statement to say "I like." The liking itself may be your personal, subjective reaction, but it's a very objective fact that you like or don't like something.

That may be semantics, but Marcel started it!

A subjective statement would be "Dar De Duh is better than Om." Yes. COLOURLESS GREEN IDEAS SLEEP FURIOUSLY.
JÄY - 11.10.2012 at 20:24  
Rating: 9 I'll elaborate...

Objective: This band uses electric guitars with distorted riffs

Subjective: This band has great riffs
JohnDoe - 11.10.2012 at 20:53  
  I listened to this this morning and enjoyed it a lot; some people apparently missed more screaming and growling to this album, I wanted more folklore . There is plenty for everybody to enjoy on this album: there is the extreme side of things with black and death metal influences, there is a great atmosphere with the folklore and keyboards use and there is the folklore influence. Great album!
R'Vannith - 12.10.2012 at 12:24  
Rating: 8 Such a friendly fellow.

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