Dordeduh - Dar De Duh


8.3 | 163 votes |
Release date: 28 September 2012
Style: Atmospheric black metal

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Disc I
01. Jind De Tronuri
02. Flăcărarii
03. E-an-na
04. Calea Rotilor De Foc
05. Pândarul
06. Zuh
07. Cumpăt
08. Dojana

Disc II [digipak bonus]
01. Zuh - Cu Tunetul Muntilor
02. Cumpat
03. Ruun [Enslaved cover]

Disc III [bonus DVD]
+ Interview feature & making of

Top 20 albums of 2012: 20

Line-up
Hupogrammos - guitars, keyboards, traditional instruments, vocals
Christian Popescu - guitars, hammered dulcimer, keyboards, xylophone
Ovidiu Mihăiţă - drums, percussion
Sergio Ponti - drums
Flavius Misarăş - bass

Additional info

Formats:
  • Jewel Case CD: Budget edition with 8-page booklet and no extras.

  • Digipak 2CD: Premium edition in 2CD Digipak with extended 20-page booklet, and also including a bonus CD with an Enslaved cover song and the tracks of the sold out EP Valea Omului.

  • Limited book 2CD/DVD: Collector's edition in approximately 25 x 25 cm book with 48 pages. Includes a bonus MCD with the Enslaved cover song and the tracks of the sold out EP Valea Omului + DVD with 70 minutes of interviews and making of. Limited to 777 copies.

  • Limited gatefold 2LP: Vinyl edition on heavy 180 g vinyl with poster and PVC protection sleeve. Special vinyl mastering. Limited to 500 copies.

Guest review by
Apothecary
Rating:
9.0
In the common mindset, when a fire burns something to ashes, said thing is completely destroyed, never to return. And yet, in European mythology, we are told that the mythological phoenix, upon nearing old age, bursts into flames... only to be reborn from its ashes, to begin life anew with a fresh energy and spiritual vitality. From the creative ashes of Romanian black metal legends Negură Bunget, rose the phoenix of Dordeduh, the new project of former members Sol Faur and Huppogramus; it both pays tribute to the band of their origin and yet also transcends it. Dordeduh are by no means whatsoever easy to digest, and nor is their debut album. And yet, as was the case with Negură Bunget, this sense of mystery is part of what adds to the band's overall formula of fantastic music. For Dar De Duh is quite simply the type of album that's like an elaborately-crafted painting. You have to look it over several times to fully absorb its entire beauty, but once you take it in for all it's worth, you'll be absolutely amazed.

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published 21.11.2012 | Comments (11)

First full length from the former primary creative influences of Negura Bunget. I had high hopes and Sol Faur and Hupogrammos don't disappoint. If you enjoyed the cosmically wonderful "OM", odds are you'll find this nearly as entrancing.

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09.10.2012 - 07:51
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Written by Guest on 09.10.2012 at 07:50

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 09.10.2012 at 07:20

Subjectively speaking

I mean, taking only the music into account, regardless of which one came first and which one "changed how I view music."


Which is still subjective and not objective
A personal opinion is never objective
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09.10.2012 - 08:26
Fredd
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 09.10.2012 at 07:51

Which is still subjective and not objective
A personal opinion is never objective

I know. I was going to edit that into my comment, but yea. So let me rephrase: "Looking objectively at both albums, I subjectively conclude that Dar De Duh is a better album than OM."
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09.10.2012 - 19:29
Fredd
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Written by EthicaOdini85 on 09.10.2012 at 19:27

my dear fredd...I must say that you know nothing about rating an album...this isn't a better album than OM...the truth should be revealed to you in time by the ratings of the other members here on this site

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09.10.2012 - 19:32
Fredd
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Written by EthicaOdini85 on 09.10.2012 at 19:31

you should be banned from this site because you give this album an unreal value !

I'm quite honestly not sure if you are serious. I'll assume you're not, and laugh
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09.10.2012 - 19:35
Fredd
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Written by EthicaOdini85 on 09.10.2012 at 19:34

I'm afraid I am

OK. I respect your opinion.
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09.10.2012 - 19:58
Rating: 9
InnerSelf
proofread free
Written by Guest on 09.10.2012 at 19:35

Written by EthicaOdini85 on 09.10.2012 at 19:34

I'm afraid I am

OK. I respect your opinion.

You should be banned for respecting an opinion, and this is my opinion which you should not respect.
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to be stared at from across the abyss
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09.10.2012 - 20:02
Fredd
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Written by InnerSelf on 09.10.2012 at 19:58

You should be banned for respecting an opinion, and this is my opinion which you should not respect.

Yay, that means I'm not getting banned.
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09.10.2012 - 20:03
Cynic Metalhead
Atrocious Virgin
Written by InnerSelf on 09.10.2012 at 19:58

Written by Guest on 09.10.2012 at 19:35

Written by EthicaOdini85 on 09.10.2012 at 19:34

I'm afraid I am

OK. I respect your opinion.

You should be banned for respecting an opinion, and this is my opinion which you should not respect.


Honestly, I don't respect your any opinion. If you respect my opinion, I'll respect you a lot.
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10.10.2012 - 23:08
MechanisT
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^ AHEM... is it me or... wellyouknowwhatanyways
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11.10.2012 - 00:31
Rating: 9
InnerSelf
proofread free
Written by Guest on 10.10.2012 at 23:08

^ AHEM... is it me or... wellyouknowwhatanyways

It's definitely not you :|
To get back on topic ... I have heard this 5 or 6 times until now and I still find new things every time I listen to it, a monster of an album.
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11.10.2012 - 00:33
MechanisT
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Written by InnerSelf on 11.10.2012 at 00:31

Written by Guest on 10.10.2012 at 23:08

^ AHEM... is it me or... wellyouknowwhatanyways

It's definitely not you :|
To get back on topic ... I have heard this 5 or 6 times until now and I still find new things every time I listen to it, a monster of an album.


Uhh... well, actually, I wanted to point something out without being too discrete. :|
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11.10.2012 - 12:15
Rating: 8
R'Vannith
ghedengi
Written by Guest on 11.10.2012 at 00:33

Uhh... well, actually, I wanted to point something out without being too discrete. :|


I think I know what you are getting at there Mech.

About this album, I would agree that it isn't as good as Om, though the atmosphere is certainly on the same level. Just a lot less going on I think, there isn't as much prog black happening, more of an atmospheric folk.
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11.10.2012 - 12:38
IronAngel
By the way, Fredd was perfectly in line when he said "Objectively speaking, I like this more." If we put aside the mess that is the meaning of "objective" and "subjective" (two of the most abused words in our language), there's nothing problematic about saying your preference is an objective state of affairs. It's a psychological state that can be observed and experienced. If Fredd likes this better, he likes this better, and that fact doesn't change based on your perspective. "Subject A prefers X over Y" is not unlike saying "the patient is having an epileptic seizure", and both can theoretically be observed with enough data.

Whether he should like this better is another matter. I wouldn't say it's so much about subjective vs objective as it is about descriptive and normative.

He could have lied or he could have been mistaken, though. But usually you're right about your personal preferences, so I'm inclined to say not only was his statement a valid objective statement but it was also true.

About the album: dunno, nice enough.
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11.10.2012 - 18:42
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Written by EthicaOdini85 on 11.10.2012 at 18:34

fredd is simply a stupid kid


says the totally stupid one
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11.10.2012 - 19:07
Fredd
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Written by IronAngel on 11.10.2012 at 12:38

By the way, Fredd was perfectly in line when he said "Objectively speaking, I like this more." If we put aside the mess that is the meaning of "objective" and "subjective" (two of the most abused words in our language), there's nothing problematic about saying your preference is an objective state of affairs. It's a psychological state that can be observed and experienced. If Fredd likes this better, he likes this better, and that fact doesn't change based on your perspective. "Subject A prefers X over Y" is not unlike saying "the patient is having an epileptic seizure", and both can theoretically be observed with enough data.

Whether he should like this better is another matter. I wouldn't say it's so much about subjective vs objective as it is about descriptive and normative.

He could have lied or he could have been mistaken, though. But usually you're right about your personal preferences, so I'm inclined to say not only was his statement a valid objective statement but it was also true.

About the album: dunno, nice enough.

I agree that "Objective vs Subjective" is a mess but I didnt mean it that way (I'm not a native speaker of this language) You and Marcel are both right as it seems to me, by the way.
Anyway, I meant "looking at both albums only by the merit of their musical content and not by their history, influences or impact (this is what I meant by objective), I liked (subjective here; me) Dar De Duh better." ON TOPIC: yes, I preferred this album's folky atmosphere.

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11.10.2012 - 19:18
IronAngel
Yeah but to be accurate, it's not a subjective statement to say "I like." The liking itself may be your personal, subjective reaction, but it's a very objective fact that you like or don't like something.

That may be semantics, but Marcel started it!
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11.10.2012 - 19:27
Fredd
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Written by IronAngel on 11.10.2012 at 19:18

Yeah but to be accurate, it's not a subjective statement to say "I like." The liking itself may be your personal, subjective reaction, but it's a very objective fact that you like or don't like something.

That may be semantics, but Marcel started it!

A subjective statement would be "Dar De Duh is better than Om." Yes. COLOURLESS GREEN IDEAS SLEEP FURIOUSLY.
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11.10.2012 - 20:24
Rating: 9
JÄY
Metal slave
I'll elaborate...

Objective: This band uses electric guitars with distorted riffs

Subjective: This band has great riffs
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11.10.2012 - 20:53
JohnDoe
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I listened to this this morning and enjoyed it a lot; some people apparently missed more screaming and growling to this album, I wanted more folklore . There is plenty for everybody to enjoy on this album: there is the extreme side of things with black and death metal influences, there is a great atmosphere with the folklore and keyboards use and there is the folklore influence. Great album!
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12.10.2012 - 12:24
Rating: 8
R'Vannith
ghedengi
Such a friendly fellow.
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12.10.2012 - 13:45
Rating: 8
R'Vannith
ghedengi
Written by EthicaOdini85 on 12.10.2012 at 13:43

Written by R'Vannith on 12.10.2012 at 12:24

Such a friendly fellow.

he started it

Was there a need to continue it?
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12.10.2012 - 14:19
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
I think Ethica started it by calling Fredd a stupid kid
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12.10.2012 - 15:06
!J.O.O.E.!
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Haha, Ethica plummeted into a nosedive pretty rapidly.

Sometimes you have to take a step back and laugh at how incredibly irate and whiney people get over the internet when one's opinion is not shared, and of course the ensuing breakdowns of logic and inevitable wild personal attacks that follow.

You sir sound like an absolute tit and a crybaby and you should be aware that everyone here considers you to be just that. Now go play in the sand with the other children.
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12.10.2012 - 15:35
!J.O.O.E.!
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Written by EthicaOdini85 on 12.10.2012 at 15:13

would you like to come with me and play ?


Sorry, my playground resides in logic, good
humour and intellect. Three areas you've yet to
visit.
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12.10.2012 - 17:00
Fredd
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Just so everyone knows. EthicaOdini85 is Irinel. He sent his FB account to MechanisT

Why was Irinel banned again?
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12.10.2012 - 17:01
Fredd
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 12.10.2012 at 14:19

I think Ethica started it by calling Fredd a stupid kid

which made me laugh, honestly
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12.10.2012 - 17:08
!J.O.O.E.!
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Written by Guest on 12.10.2012 at 17:00

Just so everyone knows. EthicaOdini85 is Irinel. He sent his FB account to MechanisT

Why was Irinel banned again?

Shoutbox-related retardation I think.
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12.10.2012 - 17:13
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Written by Guest on 12.10.2012 at 17:08

Written by Guest on 12.10.2012 at 17:00

Just so everyone knows. EthicaOdini85 is Irinel. He sent his FB account to MechanisT

Why was Irinel banned again?

Shoutbox-related retardation I think.


and blatant racism in the shoutbox as well (which is of course retardation to the max)
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Yesterday is dead and gone, tomorrow is out of sight
Dawn Crosby (r.i.p.)
05.04.1963 - 15.12.1996

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12.10.2012 - 17:21
Lit.
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I agree with the idiot of the thread, nowhere near as good as Om.
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15.10.2012 - 00:04
Heresiarch88
@EthicaOdini85 Wow! Not a moron at all!!

On topic: No, it's not even close to Om, but it's still an exceptional album worthy of a solid 9 (at least).
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