I must be losing my hearing, because after 2-3 listens the only songs that seem better than "above average" to me are Sacrimony and My Confession.

This albums most redeeming feature for me so far is the fact that none of the songs are awful (like many songs on Poetry were), but there definitely seems to be a major lack of great songs so far.

But I'm more than willing to give it some more spins and see if my mind changes, since so many of you are rating it a 9 or higher. Temporary rating until then: 7.5

Written by Italics on 27.10.2012 at 07:30

I must be losing my hearing, because after 2-3 listens the only songs that seem better than "above average" to me are Sacrimony and My Confession.

This albums most redeeming feature for me so far is the fact that none of the songs are awful (like many songs on Poetry were), but there definitely seems to be a major lack of great songs so far.

But I'm more than willing to give it some more spins and see if my mind changes, since so many of you are rating it a 9 or higher. Temporary rating until then: 7.5

I'm in the same boat, except that for me the highlights are Sacrimony and Solitaire. This album feels just so, i don't know, generic, lackluster, I dare say poppy. None of the songs are really bad, but besides the two tracks I mentioned, none of them are particularly good either. With Poetry, you had a couple of tracks that were just okay, but others that are absolutely fantastic. Plus, PFTP just felt more unique. I am so disappointed by this album. I mean, it's good, but good is not enough by Kamelot's standards. It doesn't quite reach Poetry and it's way out of Ghost Opera's league.

I love it!! Awesome! Kamelot did it again!

Written by Pazu on 27.10.2012 at 07:54

Written by Italics on 27.10.2012 at 07:30

I must be losing my hearing, because after 2-3 listens the only songs that seem better than "above average" to me are Sacrimony and My Confession.

This albums most redeeming feature for me so far is the fact that none of the songs are awful (like many songs on Poetry were), but there definitely seems to be a major lack of great songs so far.

I'm in the same boat, except that for me the highlights are Sacrimony and Solitaire. This album feels just so, i don't know, generic, lackluster, I dare say poppy. None of the songs are really bad, but besides the two tracks I mentioned, none of them are particularly good either.

Couldn't say it better using my english skills

It's good, but it lacked the same level of conviction most of the previous albums had. Hopefully their next album will be to that standard.

Favourite tracks include : Solitaire, Sacrimony and Torn.

Not better than several other Kamelot albums, but DAMN GOOD nonetheless. This could have been a disastrous moment in Kamelot history; instead it's another beautiful addition to their catalogue.

I'd never heard Tommy before and am happy how his voice complements the music. He sounds enough like Khan that it's not a difficult adjustment... yet he's different enough that we can confidently say a new, strong era for the band has begun.

And can I just say again THANK GOD the guys decided to use such a talented female vocalist as Elize and be done with Simmons. Was so over her breathy, unfocused sound creeping in on their songs. Elize sounds amazing.

Written by Susan on 27.10.2012 at 18:12

And can I just say again THANK GOD the guys decided to use such a talented female vocalist as Elize and be done with Simmons. Was so over her breathy, unfocused sound creeping in on their songs. Elize sounds amazing.

Simone is nothing special but i think Elize is even worse. Her voice sounds weak and pretty generic.
Album is pretty good tho.

Didn't grab me like previous albums, very samey if you ask me, even bored me at times.

Written by Susan on 27.10.2012 at 18:12

Not better than several other Kamelot albums, but DAMN GOOD nonetheless. This could have been a disastrous moment in Kamelot history; instead it's another beautiful addition to their catalogue.

...I'd never heard Tommy before...

Yeah, exactly my thoughts!

Speaking of the part in bold, that must be remedied. It will only take you the first four mins of this.

I agree that Silverthorn doesn't have any amazing songs that jumped out at me instantly but I enjoyed all of them. I hope that the next album Kamelot does with Tommy will be better with them utilizing Tommy's full potential, but then again, the flaws don't have a whole lot to do with him I don't think. I haven't fallen in love with any Kam songs past the Black Halo album, so unless the songwriting improves...

Hmmm @haladflire65...and you call yourself a Kamelot fan? " so unless the songwriting impoves" ... you will stop listening to them and start listening another band, and if that band have somewhat "crises" you will change that and start listening to another band? I am not sure if you followed Kamelot since their first album, but i did, and they changed their style couple of times, but i continue loving them and listening their songs. I even swallowed somehow Poetry, but that doesn't mean i will abandon them or something like that...

Written by nefredil on 27.10.2012 at 21:38

Hmmm @haladflire65...and you call yourself a Kamelot fan? " so unless the songwriting impoves" ... you will stop listening to them and start listening another band, and if that band have somewhat "crises" you will change that and start listening to another band? I am not sure if you followed Kamelot since their first album, but i did, and they changed their style couple of times, but i continue loving them and listening their songs. I even swallowed somehow Poetry, but that doesn't mean i will abandon them or something like that...

I admit that I'm still a newbie to metal compared to most other users here and I haven't been following Kamelot or any other bands for very long. I got into Kamelot a bit after the release of Poetry I think. But I think Kamelot's the one band I can call myself a "fan" of at the moment. And no, I didn't say that I'll stop listening to them - I just meant that there probably won't be another Epica or Black Halo, I'm sorry if that was unclear. I still enjoyed Ghost Opera and a couple tracks from Poetry and really like Silverthorn, but I'm just hoping that Youngblood can write stuff like those classic albums again. I'm pretty sure I'll love Kamelot for a while from now, and am excited to see what else they're going to come up with in the future

Except for Sacrimony, which reminds me a lot of Kamelot's The Black Halo era, or its just my guess that Thomas wrote this song by himself only, the rest of the album is kinda hard to contemplate. If you listen to Tommy's original band Seventh Wonder, you will see that he affect a lot in Silverthorn's vocal melodies, kinda like he brought Seventh Wonder's spirit into Kamelot. Seventh Wonder is a group with good music, but always take time to get into every single of their albums, or more likely, every song. This is what I felt when listening Silverthorn for the first time. Thing seems to be getting better after a few more spins .

Every song of the album was get me after very first listen, and all songs are great! Prodigal son is just amazing way to end an album! I don't know what to say! My mind is just blown away after listening to it! 10/10

I've listen this song more than a couple of times and still think is great... Karevik is awesome, the music is WAY better than Poetry For The Poisoned... I'm a happy hardcore Kamelot fan.

The guitars are very exciting and vocals are way better than last album...awsomeness almost Black Halo standard=)

Boring music

Ok I might get hate for this but this album isn't what I was expecting. This album pretty much gets boring after listening to it a couple of times. Sure you may love it the first time but the songs don't have that spark I like to hear in Kamelot songs. Tommy's voice isn't shown at his highest potential and most so gs in here he just sings In a low alto form.Most of the songs sound very similar and that's is what annoys me the most about this album (Are they goin commercial now? Who knows?). I love the story behind the album, but that's pretty much it for this album. This is his first album with Kamelot so I will go easy on him by saying he has one more chance to show us his true potential with Kamelotq. If not I wish Kamelot the best.
Rate:7.5 The Album is too Overated (I like Poetry For The Posioned Better)

Memento Mori vs Prodigal Son
Winner:Memento Mori by a long shot!

Written by Dargor on 26.10.2012 at 18:43

Easily the best album since The Black Halo. I really enjoyed Ghost opera, but this one is superior. Tommy really brings something new to the band, the melodies in every songs are very nice and I can hardly say which songs are my favorite, I like them all.

Ghost opera brought a more well adjusted melody into Kamelots music. Ghost opera has more power than silverthorn and definitely more emotion into it. Silverthorn just sounds to plain, at least Ghost Opera has its own glory and reasons why it was Rated as good as silverthorn.

These guys have sort of lost the magic and that atmosphere that was present in The Black Halo and Ghost Opera.

It's hard to say whether or not this album is better than Poetry... Poetry had more bad songs, but also more good songs.

I gave it an 8.
The Black Halo is in my opinion still their best album to date.
But I was really dissapointed with Roy Khan leaving, and I didn't have great expectations.
Tommy is good (Roy is better), but the band has perfectly adjusted themselves around tommy.
The album needs to be listened a few times through, and you'll like it more.

How can put my ranking...someone help me!!! please!!!

Ugh, he is talking about god way too much for comfort. I know god and heaven has been in Kamelot lyrics for a long time, but it this time it feels like the focus of the album.

Ghost Opera and Black Halo keep interchanging as Kamelot's best album for me, and I don't feel this quite measures up. Sacrimony is my favorite song on the CD, which is sort of frustrating since I listened to it since the single came out. It feels the other songs didn't quite follow in it's footsteps. I do like every song on this CD, but the god thing is annoying the shit out of me. Anyways, I look forward to listening to Silverthorn a lot more.

At the first listen I didn't enjoy it very much - and hated Prodigal Son -, but it does really get better with every listen. And now Prodigal Son is one of my favourites: Funerale is damn sad and evocative...

Written by Guest on 30.10.2012 at 16:42

How can put my ranking...someone help me!!! please!!!

Below the album's artwork there's a blue button, "Rate". Click it and it will open a list with votes from 10 to 1. Choose yours.

One of the best records this year, without a doubt. Pretty much all the songs are memorable. This album perfectly blends the elements from The Black Halo and Ghost Opera and the result is a true masterpiece.

Khan was an important piece in the puzzle, but it seems like Karevik can handle it too. Great album, far better than Poetry for the Poisoned and it can surely compete with Ghost Opera, any time.

Highlights: Sacrimony, Torn, Veritas, Song for Jolee, Solitaire, Prodigal Son.

Good songs, excellent songs, bad songs, boring songs: the same Kamelot's mix

Written by Epictemptation on 30.10.2012 at 06:43

Ok I might get hate for this but this album isn't what I was expecting. This album pretty much gets boring after listening to it a couple of times. Sure you may love it the first time but the songs don't have that spark I like to hear in Kamelot songs. Tommy's voice isn't shown at his highest potential and most so gs in here he just sings In a low alto form.Most of the songs sound very similar and that's is what annoys me the most about this album (Are they goin commercial now? Who knows?). I love the story behind the album, but that's pretty much it for this album. This is his first album with Kamelot so I will go easy on him by saying he has one more chance to show us his true potential with Kamelotq. If not I wish Kamelot the best.
Rate:7.5 The Album is too Overated (I like Poetry For The Posioned Better)

Don't you worry! I think exactly the same as you do. In my case, I really had high expectations but after listening to the album (I might have listened to it almost 15 times in two days) I just feel it lacks of something (apart from Roy Khan). The songs are OK but that's it. And the songwriting... well, it leaves much to be desired.


Personal Highlights: Sacrimony, Ashes to ashes and My confession.

BTW, why everyone hates PftP? LOL together with Karma it is my very fave album

Does anyone who got the limited edition have opinions about the bonus track, "Grace"? I don't know why I still don't have my copy yet... a Japanese fan over in 2ch was saying that it's a pity that it's a bonus track because he/she thought it was up there with Forever and Karma (fans there seem to be pretty satisfied with the album overall), so I'm pretty curious about it.