Written by Daniell on 10.02.2014 at 15:06

Love can be blind, but criticism can't?

Your're so sensitive when it comes to Behemoth

I get Joe's point, but I don't see much blind-love going on here really.
Leave that for bands that whatever they release, they get the highest ratings every time; but I think that in Behemoth's case the general consensus is that they've been releasing mediocre records lately and this was honestly surprise for a lot of us.

Written by Unhealer on 10.02.2014 at 15:32

I get Joe's point, but I don't see much blind-love going on here really.
Leave that for bands that whatever they release, they get the highest ratings every time; but I think that in Behemoth's case the general consensus is that they've been releasing mediocre records lately and this was honestly surprise for a lot of us.

Well the last 3 albums before this all have scores way higher than they deserve, so from my perspective there's some serious impaired vision going on But if it makes everyone happier I retract my statement about people being blind.

Written by Guest on 10.02.2014 at 15:08

Written by Daniell on 10.02.2014 at 15:06

Love can be blind, but criticism can't?

Your're so sensitive when it comes to Behemoth

Nope. Behemoth doesn't even rank among my favourite bands. I'm sensitive about double standards though

Written by Daniell on 10.02.2014 at 15:38


Nope. Behemoth doesn't even rank among my favourite bands. I'm sensitive about double standards though

Not really double standards. Nearly 50% of the scores are 10s. Only 2 4s given out of the 200+ votes. From someone who finds this mediocre it's reasonable to assume I would think blind adoration is certainly part of the reason there are so many 10s. However no matter your position you couldn't argue there's hate going on here. Not with so few scores below 6.

Written by Guest on 10.02.2014 at 15:42
Not really double standards. Nearly 50% of the scores are 10s. Only 2 4s given out of the 200+ votes. From someone who finds this mediocre it's reasonable to assume I would think blind adoration is certainly part of the reason there are so many 10s. However no matter your position you couldn't argue there's hate going on here. Not with so few scores below 6.

You do have a point there - I suppose hate wasn't the right word (or it was, but only in the context of this specific thread based on the comments like you said). Either way, I'm actually a little disappointed this album didn't grab me the way it seems to have grabbed most of our users (and apparently the rest of the world). This is hardly even a step up from Evangelion.

Written by Troy Killjoy on 10.02.2014 at 15:46

You do have a point there - I suppose hate wasn't the right word (or it was, but only in the context of this specific thread based on the comments like you said). Either way, I'm actually a little disappointed this album didn't grab me the way it seems to have grabbed most of our users (and apparently the rest of the world). This is hardly even a step up from Evangelion.

More of a side step really. A different kind of "meh"

We share similar opinions only I think I hold both albums in slightly higher esteem.

Ok, I find this "very meh"

Written by Guest on 10.02.2014 at 15:34

Well the last 3 albums before this all have scores way higher than they deserve, so from my perspective there's some serious impaired vision going on But if it makes everyone happier I retract my statement about people being blind.

What I meant is that I don't see hate towards this album as much as I don't see blind fanboyism for it for the reason I mentioned. This comes from my own experience talking to Behemoth enthusiast about their current state as a band, leaving out metal storm's album ratings which do not always reflect the overall opinion accurately.
I agree with you that those three albums are rated a bit higher that they should. Maybe Demigod is accurate since lots of Behemoth followers love this album, I personally disregard it's musical values a bit due to flawed production

Written by Unhealer on 10.02.2014 at 16:28


What I meant is that I don't see hate towards this album as much as I don't see blind fanboyism for it for the reason I mentioned. This comes from my own experience talking to Behemoth enthusiast about their current state as a band, leaving out metal storm's album ratings which do not always reflect the overall opinion accurately.
I agree with you that those three albums are rated a bit higher that they should. Maybe Demigod is accurate since lots of Behemoth followers love this album, I personally disregard it's musical values a bit due to flawed production

I dunno, but to me with this album it feels like Behemoth has become one of those bands. Hype + prolific voters and commenters + massive acclaim surrounding what I regard as something not special my natural conclusion is to think something is a bit awry. Maybe not blind love, but some people getting caught up in the furore surrounding it. Granted, this thread isn't a Winterun level fanboy ejaculation, so I'll give the fans that at least

Hi children. play nice. if someone says something you disagree with, that's their right.

if flat out offensive, respond sarcastically and notify your local mod so we can wipe the offending remarks (and poster) from the space-time continuum.

Wow. Wow. Wow.

Wow. Wow. Wow.

Wow. Wow. Wow.

So much The. So much Satanist. So Much Behemoth.

But I actually liked this one. Sounds very good for me (while I don't like blackened death much), and ocasional orchestrations catches me!

Haven't heard this album but the thread is interesting, because it showcases the predictability of Marcel and !J.O.O.E.! joining in to rain on the parade of a group of people who love an album. Happens a lot.

Written by Ace Frawley on 11.02.2014 at 04:20

Haven't heard this album but the thread is interesting, because it showcases the predictability of Marcel and !J.O.O.E.! joining in to rain on the parade of a group of people who love an album. Happens a lot.

Almost as predictable as people who moan about other people that don't agree with the popular opinion

I'm liking this album the more I listen to it. It's left me with a much more satisfied feeling than Evangelion, which I personally felt was more run-of-the-mill Behemoth, with an occasional standout here and there, but that's just me. Glad I bought this one.

Hmm... I don't really care much for this album.

However, if this album does well enough to secure a permanent spot in the Top 200 before the competition for the "Top List of the Year" really kicks off, I'll be happy.

It would be nice to see something from AFTER 2010 finally getting on there, even if I don't personally believe in the choice myself. Personally, I find it to be a well deserved "Fuck You" to those vote-abusers who spam 1's on everything that "contests" their favourites.

Not a fan of Behemoth, but i'll give it a listen. It entered the top 200 albums of all time list after 1 week of its release so i'm expecting something astonishing!

Just great! The Satanist made it easily into my top 20 Albums of all time. I always loved Behemoth, but this Album is different. A lot of diversity in the compositions, from brutal Black Metal Assaults to slowly rumbling Death Metal Songs. The solos on this Album are also great. Just listen to the one in the song "The Satanist", or in Messe Noir. There is so much emotion in this album, that I have to bow down before the kings of Blackened Death Metal. This is one of my favorites this year for sure. Hail Behemoth, you set yourself a monument!

Top albums of all time : 56 ! really ?? :|
I can't understand why this album get the 8.9 rating , good album but doesn't deserve 8.9 . track 4 and 6 are really good but rest of songs are just ok and nothing more

Wow, this sounds superb! I have never been into Behemoth before or liked them, but this actually changed my mind. A brilliant combination between brutality and well composed music, and just when you feel you've had enough of all the brutal stuffs, it smoothly breaks in with awesome melodies. Only thing I didn't like too much is the speaking, it sounds a little out of the mix (if you can put it that way) and it's quite performed without feelings. Feels a little unnatural. Else it's awesome. Heard the entire album once, looking forward to listen more to it. Might be a buy!

I suppose I should see what all the hoopla is about...

Written by Neshat on 11.02.2014 at 18:33

Top albums of all time : 56 ! really ?? :|
I can't understand why this album get the 8.9 rating , good album but doesn't deserve 8.9 . track 4 and 6 are really good but rest of songs are just ok and nothing more

Agreed, i like the solos in this album and "Ora Pro Nobis Lucifer" is my favorite track. The other songs are just groovey. :/

Holy score inflation, Batman!

Even though I really like this album, I agree that it shouldn't be on the Top 200 of all time or anything (at least not yet). No new album should really be up there until it solidifies its place in mainstream consciousness, not just one week after it comes out.

Gonna get this to see what all the hype is about. Never heard any Behemoth before, so go into it with clean ears. Looking at pictures of them, they look like total freaks but I'll just focus on the music. Not into the whole satan stuff either, that's all pretty g&y, I reckon.

For some reason I really love the mixing of this album. Like, I really adore it, so warm and yet so gloomy.
The opening tracks opens the album real nicely. I hadn't listened the single but I recognized the name, so I expected something... well, something that I could expect, but it was something else. Slow, but not as boring as Lucifer, and then it turns into Apostasy-esque fast riffage. It was good.
And so is the rest of the album. I didn't really get into Evangelion, but for the few times I have now listened to this I think it's better than okay. Not a groundbreaking masterpiece, but if they have improved their live-performance from what they were last time I saw them, I'm sure to enjoy it. Might even purchase the album just for the moody atmosphere.

I think anyone with an actual sense of music would agree that this clearly is not the album of all years, but c'mon, the top 200 is already filled with overrated old-school heavy and Metallica, so with the hype behind this release it was to be expected to receive somewhat too warm welcome.

The fact that this has an 8.9 is absolute absurdity. Not really worth more than a 4.5. One of the more snooze-worthy albums of 2014

Written by Alex F on 12.02.2014 at 16:58

The fact that this has an 8.9 is absolute absurdity.

I felt the same about new Mechina album. But now that album is ranked 8.3 not 8.9 (fortunately )

Written by Hex_Omega on 12.02.2014 at 21:50

not 8.9 (fortunately )

Down to 8.8 now