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Release date: 31 January 2014
Style: Symphonic metal

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01. Let Us Burn
02. Dangerous [featuring Howard Jones]
03. And We Run [feat. Xzibit]
04. Paradise (What About Us?) [feat. Tarja Turunen]
05. Edge Of The World
06. Silver Moonlight
07. Covered By Roses
08. Dog Days
09. Tell Me Why
10. Whole World Is Watching [feat. Dave Pirner]
11. Radioactive [Imagine Dragons cover] [iTunes bonus]
12. Summertime Sadness [Lana del Ray cover] [iTunes bonus]
13. Let Her Go [Passenger cover] [iTunes bonus]
14. Dirty Dancer [Enrique Iglesias cover] [iTunes bonus]
15. And We Run [evolution track / audio commentary] [iTunes bonus]
16. Silver Moonlight [evolution track / audio commentary] [iTunes bonus]
17. Covered By Roses [evolution track / audio commentary] [iTunes bonus]
18. Tell Me Why [evolution track / audio commentary] [iTunes bonus]
+ Paradise (What About Us?) [feat. Tarja Turunen] [video] [iTunes premium bonus]

Reviews (2)


Line-up
Sharon den Adel - vocals
Martinus "Martijn" Spierenburg - keyboards, orchestration
Robert Westerholt - guitars
Rudolf "Ruud" Adrianus Jolie - guitars
Mike Coolen - drums
Jeroen van Veen - bass
Stefan Helleblad - guitars

Additional musicians:
Tarja Turunen - vocals
Howard Jones - vocals
Alvin Nathaniel "Xzibit" Joiner - vocals
David Anthony "Dave" Pirner - vocals
Daniel Gibson - additional programming
Frank van Essen - violin, viola
Jonas Pap - cello


Additional info
Produced by Daniel Gibson and Robert Westerholt.

Staff review by
R Lewis

Rating:
8.4
Welcome the New Year with class - welcome the New Year with Within Temptation.

They tested a path of 80's rock and pop influences in 2011, but The Unforgiving brought them conflicting responses. 2014 signals a return to the heavier and more symphonic style we had the pleasure to listen to some years ago, but the soul of the last record hasn't been totally trashed, since the new album Hydra blends tradition and experimentation.

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published 09.01.2014 | Comments (42)

Staff review by
Ag Fox

Rating:
6.2
Most people have heard of the saying "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". Seems like Within Temptation are familiar with it too, as they've mostly stuck to their guns with the winning formula of 80's pop-influenced symphonic rock over soaring female vocals as per their previous album The Unforgiving, while trying to push the envelope a bit by featuring high profile performers in their latest album Hydra.

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published 12.04.2014 | Comments (11)

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Azarath - 09.11.2013 at 08:39  
Rating: 6 Xzibit's reaction when he found out he's appearing on this album:




Apparently he is as stunned as the rest of us.
lingus99 - 09.11.2013 at 08:42  
Rating: 8 Love the band and really looking forward to this, BUT can't help feeling that it is looking a little lazy. A 10 track album and the rest filled with song already available on the Q album and some pointless commentry tracks.

This has taken a little fire out of my anticipation.:noidea:
Unhealer - 10.11.2013 at 17:16  
Rating: 7 Naaaaah, Xzibit?! God, it is happening.
Mary N. - 10.11.2013 at 17:18  
  What the hell they're doing ! Lana del Ray, Enrique Iglesias and Xzibit ?! someone shut down this band,
Laneth - 11.11.2013 at 03:05  
Rating: 5 Oh god, this is not looking good...
The Melting Snow - 14.11.2013 at 10:49  
Rating: 6 Disappointed already.
E†han1994 - 27.11.2013 at 21:49  
  ^For Pete's sake, why do you guys have to be so cynical?
Migtanteot - 20.12.2013 at 17:56  
  This is the same feeling when I saw the title of David Guetta´s cover Titanium, "damn!" - I said - "what the hell with this guys!".But then I heard it and quite enjoyed it.

I wish these covers are at least this way.
BoneQueen - 24.12.2013 at 17:55  
Rating: 10
Written by lingus99 on 09.11.2013 at 08:42

Love the band and really looking forward to this, BUT can't help feeling that it is looking a little lazy. A 10 track album and the rest filled with song already available on the Q album and some pointless commentry tracks.

This has taken a little fire out of my anticipation.:noidea:


I couldn't agree more with you. Exactly my thoughts.
At first I was like "18 songs! Cool!" and then "waaait a sec...". Hope it's worth it though, I really like the feat with Tarja.
hidden_ninja - 30.12.2013 at 07:54  
Rating: 2 Seems to me like they are going mainstream as much as possible.

The video for: Within Temptation - Dangerous ft. Howard Jones
Rodney - 10.01.2014 at 03:53  
  The Xzibit feature is a pretty odd choice, but I am a fan of Xzibit's work so that should be interesting. I don't normally listen to these guys but I'll be checking that song out for sure.
Dark Forever - 17.01.2014 at 04:21  
Rating: 8 *sigh* Everybody criticizing the album without even listening to it. Yes, only 10 songs, but in a total of 50 minutes, how can that be short and "lazy"? And what's the problem with including a hip hop star? Of course you're not gonna like the album, you already hate if before it comes out :/
annodomini - 17.01.2014 at 10:18  
Rating: 7 After first listen I just can confirm my previous opinion that WT is a band which you can't compare in time. All of their albums are very different and very well written and played in it's own way. "Hydra" is no exception. Amazing combination of "The Unforgiving" and "The silent force" with lots of new elements. The sound is still heavy, despite some poppy arrangement here and there. We have even growls in "Silver moonlight", which bring us back to Mother earth times.

And then we have Xzibit. The biggest mystery and discussions topic in all pre release period. And what a song it is!!! One of the best WT have ever written, where Xzibit not only don't ruin the song, but even make it much better and fit it perfectly. There will definitely be an argument stating that Xzibit is just in sake of popularity and mainstream audience, but that's wrong. If that would be the case, then rap part would be somewhere in the songs middle and very short, just so it be there. But it's not the case. "And we run" and Xzibit flows naturally. If you delete rap part, the song will loose it's spirit. It's another proof of WT capability of writing different songs equally great.

Actually all songs with guests are amazing, and thats a stone to all those, who was winning that there are only 10 songs, and 4 of them with guest singers.

So all in all it is amazing record. WT did it again!
Unhealer - 18.01.2014 at 01:27  
Rating: 7
Written by annodomini on 17.01.2014 at 10:18

There will definitely be an argument stating that Xzibit is just in sake of popularity and mainstream audience, but that's wrong. If that would be the case, then rap part would be somewhere in the songs middle and very short, just so it be there. But it's not the case. "And we run" and Xzibit flows naturally. If you delete rap part, the song will loose it's spirit. It's another proof of WT capability of writing different songs equally great.


That still doesn't explain why they called a personality like Xzibit.
Ok, let's suppose that comes from a purely artistic stand and they honestly intended for a rap section in one of their songs... why not call another rapper? Maybe someone from their home country or another artist that somehow shares common ground with their music style. I don't believe that the thought of the controversy this would cause has NEVER crossed their minds.
Then again, if they admire Xzibit for whatever reason (or the other way around) and they really wanted to collaborate in a song, of course there's no problem with that. But I'd find that weird.
annodomini - 18.01.2014 at 10:04  
Rating: 7
Written by Unhealer on 18.01.2014 at 01:27

Written by annodomini on 17.01.2014 at 10:18

There will definitely be an argument stating that Xzibit is just in sake of popularity and mainstream audience, but that's wrong. If that would be the case, then rap part would be somewhere in the songs middle and very short, just so it be there. But it's not the case. "And we run" and Xzibit flows naturally. If you delete rap part, the song will loose it's spirit. It's another proof of WT capability of writing different songs equally great.


That still doesn't explain why they called a personality like Xzibit.
Ok, let's suppose that comes from a purely artistic stand and they honestly intended for a rap section in one of their songs... why not call another rapper? Maybe someone from their home country or another artist that somehow shares common ground with their music style. I don't believe that the thought of the controversy this would cause has NEVER crossed their minds.
Then again, if they admire Xzibit for whatever reason (or the other way around) and they really wanted to collaborate in a song, of course there's no problem with that. But I'd find that weird.


Well of course they could have asked someone else, but if you decide that you song need to have a raper, why not to call a famous one? I don't see a problem here.
annodomini - 19.01.2014 at 17:02  
Rating: 7 So after 3 days of endless listening, here are the best songs to me from most to least enjoyable. At least, at the moment.

1. And we run. 2. Covered by roses. 3. Dangerous. 4. Whole world i watching. 5. Silver moonlight. 6.Tell me why. 7. And we run. 8. Let us burn. 9. Paradise, 10. Edge of the world.
schlakt - 20.01.2014 at 16:24  
Rating: 7
Written by annodomini on 19.01.2014 at 17:02

So after 3 days of endless listening, here are the best songs to me from most to least enjoyable. At least, at the moment.

1. And we run. 2. Covered by roses. 3. Dangerous. 4. Whole world i watching. 5. Silver moonlight. 6.Tell me why. 7. And we run. 8. Let us burn. 9. Paradise, 10. Edge of the world.


you put "and we run" as number 1 and number 7!
annodomini - 20.01.2014 at 20:47  
Rating: 7
Written by schlakt on 20.01.2014 at 16:24

Written by annodomini on 19.01.2014 at 17:02

So after 3 days of endless listening, here are the best songs to me from most to least enjoyable. At least, at the moment.

1. And we run. 2. Covered by roses. 3. Dangerous. 4. Whole world i watching. 5. Silver moonlight. 6.Tell me why. 7. And we run. 8. Let us burn. 9. Paradise, 10. Edge of the world.


you put "and we run" as number 1 and number 7!


Yep, my mistake. Nr. 7 is "Dog days"
schlakt - 22.01.2014 at 19:23  
Rating: 7 Incredible album, im not even through it yet and im stunned!
Kamil - 28.01.2014 at 17:56  
Rating: 2 I can honestly say, that band from phenomenal "Mother Earth" is officially dead
What the hell happened to them?
Fearmeister - 28.01.2014 at 20:39  
  I listened to 'And We Run'.........

People seriously like this stuff?
Dark Forever - 28.01.2014 at 21:03  
Rating: 8
Written by Fearmeister on 28.01.2014 at 20:39

I listened to 'And We Run'.........

People seriously like this stuff?


Probably one of my favourite tracks on the album and I'm not even into rap, it takes a lot for me to bear it, let alone like it.
Kamil - 28.01.2014 at 21:08  
Rating: 2
Written by Fearmeister on 28.01.2014 at 20:39

I listened to 'And We Run'.........

People seriously like this stuff?

It looks like

We can only ask ourselves, what is happening with their taste or rather mind
Fearmeister - 28.01.2014 at 21:36  
 
Written by Dark Forever on 28.01.2014 at 21:03

Probably one of my favourite tracks on the album and I'm not even into rap, it takes a lot for me to bear it, let alone like it.


Even if you ignore the rap section (which I feel is totally out of place and awkward), the song does not have much going for it. A simple and uninteresting piano chord, an synth orchestra section that tries to create an 'epic' feeling with minimal effort, a vocalist that does little to distinguish herself from the thousands of other pop artists, and the guitars and drums (the, you know, metal parts) are so pointless that you can take them out of the song and no one will probably notice.
annodomini - 29.01.2014 at 14:24  
Rating: 7
Written by Kamil on 28.01.2014 at 21:08

Written by Fearmeister on 28.01.2014 at 20:39

I listened to 'And We Run'.........

People seriously like this stuff?

It looks like

We can only ask ourselves, what is happening with their taste or rather mind


Oh c'mon. Yes it's ultra accessible nad catchy and pretty simple, but it sounds awesome if you look at it alone. ust leave WT's past behind and look at this album as a newcomers. Still amazing songwriting, performance, etc. Thereąs everything ok with our minds, but I am tired of starting another "open-minded" discussion.
Kamil - 29.01.2014 at 18:49  
Rating: 2
Written by annodomini on 29.01.2014 at 14:24

Written by Kamil on 28.01.2014 at 21:08

Written by Fearmeister on 28.01.2014 at 20:39

I listened to 'And We Run'.........

People seriously like this stuff?

It looks like

We can only ask ourselves, what is happening with their taste or rather mind


Oh c'mon. Yes it's ultra accessible nad catchy and pretty simple, but it sounds awesome if you look at it alone. ust leave WT's past behind and look at this album as a newcomers. Still amazing songwriting, performance, etc. Thereąs everything ok with our minds, but I am tired of starting another "open-minded" discussion.


Sorry dude, but I can not agree with you and I can not accept a situation when metal band is making music on level similiar to disgraceful behaviors of so called artists like Miley Cyrus.
The Melting Snow - 29.01.2014 at 20:00  
Rating: 6 The first 3 songs are heartbreakingly bad
The Melting Snow - 29.01.2014 at 20:05  
Rating: 6 And what was the point of featuring Tarja on a song when all she does is sing in a typical pop-ish way?

She doesn't add anything to the song. adding her seems like just a publicity stunt.
Troy Killjoy - 30.01.2014 at 02:03  
 
Written by The Melting Snow on 29.01.2014 at 20:05
She doesn't add anything to the song. adding her seems like just a publicity stunt.

That entire tracklist looks like a publicity stunt.
Uldreth - 30.01.2014 at 02:28  
 
Written by Kamil on 29.01.2014 at 18:49



Sorry dude, but I can not agree with you and I can not accept a situation when metal band is making music on level similiar to disgraceful behaviors of so called artists like Miley Cyrus.

I don't see Sharon twerking around like Miley did.

I don't get what people are so fussed about. WT has been pretty pop-like for quite a long time and to be fair, Sharon would make a great pop singer. I see no problems with it.
Kamil - 30.01.2014 at 08:24  
Rating: 2
Written by Uldreth on 30.01.2014 at 02:28

Written by Kamil on 29.01.2014 at 18:49



Sorry dude, but I can not agree with you and I can not accept a situation when metal band is making music on level similiar to disgraceful behaviors of so called artists like Miley Cyrus.

I don't see Sharon twerking around like Miley did.

To make things clear - I am not speaking of Sharon or any other WT musician, but about very low level of music created by this band especially on new album.

If they really whish to be pop stars, then they should change genre of music.
MHOE - 30.01.2014 at 17:11  
 
Quote:

If they really whish to be pop stars, then they should change genre of music.


This is a problem that occurs again and again and again... When do people realise that musicians USUALLY do not think or restrict themselves to genres (or other terms) when composing or recording music?

They do not want to be neither pop stars, nor underground metal band... They just want to be Within Temptation (whatever it meant in 2000 or means in 2014).
ManiacBlasphemer - 30.01.2014 at 22:35  
Rating: 8 Ooook, this album will no doubt one of the most heated releases this year, but I dare to disagree with the peepz that just throw it to trash simply because 'it sounds poppish' or because of a guest musician. If pop music would sound at least 20% like this sounds, then mainstram music in general might still have some hope left (or anything to do with music in general).

Indeed, Tarja's contribution is almost none on Paradise, even that little bit adds some charm to the song. I've listened to the album entirely and I have to say it is an improvement when compared with the previous one. If I were to rank the songs this is how it would be:

1. Silver Moonlight - 9
2. Whole World Watching - 9
3. Covered By Roses - 8.5
4. Dangerous - 7.5
5. Let Us Burn - 7.5
6. Tell Me Why - 7
7. And We Run - 5
8. Paradise (What About Us?) - 4.5
9. Dog Days - 3
10. Edge Of The World - 1
annodomini - 31.01.2014 at 12:10  
Rating: 7
Written by MHOE on 30.01.2014 at 17:11

Quote:

If they really whish to be pop stars, then they should change genre of music.


This is a problem that occurs again and again and again... When do people realise that musicians USUALLY do not think or restrict themselves to genres (or other terms) when composing or recording music?

They do not want to be neither pop stars, nor underground metal band... They just want to be Within Temptation (whatever it meant in 2000 or means in 2014).


Amen to that! But It's a metal website, so it's natural that people, that are more in heavy music found this weak. Nevertheless, the rating that will appear in few days, won't reflect the true quality of this record.
lingus99 - 31.01.2014 at 15:36  
Rating: 8
Written by lingus99 on 09.11.2013 at 08:42

Love the band and really looking forward to this, BUT can't help feeling that it is looking a little lazy. A 10 track album and the rest filled with song already available on the Q album and some pointless commentry tracks.

This has taken a little fire out of my anticipation.:noidea:


So this was my comment a few weeks ago when the only info we had was a track list and Paradise to go on. I have been listening to the album for a couple of weeks now and have to admit that I do like it. It isn't on the level of Mother Earth or Silent Force, but there isn't any point in making a comparison due to the vastly different style they are performing.

Big thumbs up from me, despite being a unimpressed to begin with. Sure they will be amazing when I see them in April.
Kamil - 31.01.2014 at 17:17  
Rating: 2
Written by annodomini on 31.01.2014 at 12:10

But It's a metal website, so it's natural that people, that are more in heavy music found this weak.

This is the point
Unfortunately, not everyone can or even want to understand this matter.

New WT album by the way is not only weak, but also very dull in all aspects of heavy metal music craftsmanship.
Of course this is my personal opinion
MHOE - 01.02.2014 at 00:05  
 
Written by annodomini on 31.01.2014 at 12:10

Amen to that! But It's a metal website, so it's natural that people, that are more in heavy music found this weak. Nevertheless, the rating that will appear in few days, won't reflect the true quality of this record.


I understand, of course, that hardcore metalheads are not going to like it... People just should realise that Within Temptation band members do not add their albums to Metalstorm.net ,-) The fans do (and therefore, at the same time, mark Hydra as metal album). If it is not metal enough for Metalstorm fans, Hydra should be erased from the database - easy thing to do.

I personally do not care... I listen to many genres, from mainstream pop to classical or underground metal. That said, I agree that Hydra is nothing special as far as quality goes. I enjoy the album quite a lot, listening to it a lot in recent days, though I would give it a 6 or 7 at best. Very enjoyable but absolutely NOT original. Not generic but also not special in any way.

And by the way - production qualities of the album suck, once again... In busy passages (especially), music is too blurred and positional cues/imaging also lack significantly (even with Sennheiser HD800 and music in CD quality). It's on par with typical modern metal production... But I expected something better in this regard as Within temptation music becomes less "metal", with more money spend in production process (I guess).
BynersA7X - 02.02.2014 at 05:34  
Rating: 9 Amazing... This may be the lamest opinion here but... "And We Run" > any of Linkin Park's song, even considering it is out of their style.

It's gonna be hard to listen to an album better than this in this year. I gave it 9 because it wasn't every song that glued me to my phones, so it's not perfect. I'd give it something like 9.7.
The Melting Snow - 02.02.2014 at 09:18  
Rating: 6 I think I enjoyed Elysion's new album more than this one. thought was a disappointment too -_-
Unhealer - 02.02.2014 at 22:07  
Rating: 7
Written by BynersA7X on 02.02.2014 at 05:34

Amazing... This may be the lamest opinion here but... "And We Run" > any of Linkin Park's song, even considering it is out of their style.


Maybe not lame... but random? Definitely!
I don't see the point in that comparison
BynersA7X - 02.02.2014 at 22:44  
Rating: 9
Written by Unhealer on 02.02.2014 at 22:07

Written by BynersA7X on 02.02.2014 at 05:34

Amazing... This may be the lamest opinion here but... "And We Run" > any of Linkin Park's song, even considering it is out of their style.


Maybe not lame... but random? Definitely!
I don't see the point in that comparison


Linkin Park was full of good "rappy" songs. It was a great mix between screams, guitar and rap. Now, I'd say even Within Temptation (a completely unrelated band) does it better. And it did, with "And We Run".
Unhealer - 03.02.2014 at 00:53  
Rating: 7
Written by BynersA7X on 02.02.2014 at 22:44

Linkin Park was full of good "rappy" songs. It was a great mix between screams, guitar and rap. Now, I'd say even Within Temptation (a completely unrelated band) does it better. And it did, with "And We Run".


Oh, I get you now. I feel that song more similar to those David Guetta ft. <girl> or Rapper ft. <girl> tunes.
It is a good song actually, I like it.
M C Vice - 03.02.2014 at 10:07  
Rating: 7 Well, I like it, and that's all that really matters. (really need an emoticon for poking out a tongue)
sharkruisher - 03.02.2014 at 15:10  
Rating: 5 Pretty disapointed with this album. "Dangerous" and "Paradise (What About Us?)" are great songs, but the rest is just mainstream boredom. A make over would do this band good.
deadone - 04.02.2014 at 02:30  
Rating: 2
Written by Fearmeister on 28.01.2014 at 20:39

I listened to 'And We Run'.........

People seriously like this stuff?





I just listened to chunks of the album including this load of crap. That song sucks big hairy donkey bollocks.


Overall the album reminds me of some of the supposed "rock" entries in the Eurovision Song Contest. It's not metal or hard rock. It's pop with guitars.

Give me Lady Gaga any day - at least her voice is unique unlike Sharon Adel and the music has far more edge and intensity (yeah I like Born This Way).
Unhealer - 04.02.2014 at 04:04  
Rating: 7
Written by deadone on 04.02.2014 at 02:30

Give me Lady Gaga any day - at least her voice is unique unlike Sharon Adel and the music has far more edge and intensity (yeah I like Born This Way).


That album is fucking awesome, seriously.
Jeeers - 04.02.2014 at 09:45  
Rating: 4
Written by deadone on 04.02.2014 at 02:30

Written by Fearmeister on 28.01.2014 at 20:39

I listened to 'And We Run'.........

People seriously like this stuff?





I just listened to chunks of the album including this load of crap. That song sucks big hairy donkey bollocks.


Overall the album reminds me of some of the supposed "rock" entries in the Eurovision Song Contest. It's not metal or hard rock. It's pop with guitars.

Give me Lady Gaga any day - at least her voice is unique unlike Sharon Adel and the music has far more edge and intensity (yeah I like Born This Way).


Within Temptation have gone in utterly shameful direction, and I'm not only talking about them being pop band now. I'm just pointing out their crappy music. Bland, unoriginal, pointless. If this is pop music, than it's very bad pop music.
Nemo Atkins - 04.02.2014 at 18:50  
 
Written by Unhealer on 04.02.2014 at 04:04

Written by deadone on 04.02.2014 at 02:30

Give me Lady Gaga any day - at least her voice is unique unlike Sharon Adel and the music has far more edge and intensity (yeah I like Born This Way).


That album is fucking awesome, seriously.

...Have I just found two metalheads who like a Lady GaGa album?

Thank god, I thought I was the only one! Not a huge fan of her, but Born This Way is a really enjoyable listen if you aren't opposed to listening to a bit of modern pop.

Anyway, back to Hydra. I've not heard this yet, but I will admit that the rapper guesting on the album does have me slightly apprehensive about this (don't like rap much, although I do admit that there IS some talent needed to do a good rap...). I did quite like "What About Us" and "Dangerous", though, so maybe I'll pick this up after I've got the new Primal Fear and Stormwarrior...
Uldreth - 04.02.2014 at 22:32  
 
Written by Nemo Atkins on 04.02.2014 at 18:50


...Have I just found two metalheads who like a Lady GaGa album?

Thank god, I thought I was the only one! Not a huge fan of her, but Born This Way is a really enjoyable listen if you aren't opposed to listening to a bit of modern pop.

Anyway, back to Hydra. I've not heard this yet, but I will admit that the rapper guesting on the album does have me slightly apprehensive about this (don't like rap much, although I do admit that there IS some talent needed to do a good rap...). I did quite like "What About Us" and "Dangerous", though, so maybe I'll pick this up after I've got the new Primal Fear and Stormwarrior...

Lady Gaga is pretty dope, at least her old stuff. I havent listened to Artpop yet.

I have not fully listened to THIS yet, but I don't find anything wrong with pop WT, Sharon's voice is far more built for pop singing than the type of stuff they played on Enter imo, and their last album was quite great.
Unhealer - 05.02.2014 at 07:10  
Rating: 7
Written by Uldreth on 04.02.2014 at 22:32

Lady Gaga is pretty dope, at least her old stuff. I havent listened to Artpop yet.


We should be discussing this in the Lady Gaga thread, but I'll just say that Artpop was shit, only a few good tunes (at least Aura is probably her best song yet).
Her very first album was even shittier and boringly generic, but the Fame Monster EP and Born This Way are amazing.

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