I think I'm liking this. Deafheaven worship but with a near-sludgy and a very dark and heavier sound.

Written by 3rdWorld on 06.10.2016 at 05:48

I think I'm liking this. Deafheaven worship but with a near-sludgy and a very dark and heavier sound.

Its a bit steep to call it worship I think, solid usbm. Will give it some spins...

I think I tried it a while ago. Sounded kinda bland and unremarkable to me.

Well its pretty standard sounding bm so thats not surprising you didn't like it Joe.

I wish this sort of bm dead as soon as possible.
But again that can be said about 98% of bm in general.

Written by mz on 07.10.2016 at 01:37

I wish this sort of bm dead as soon as possible.
But again that can be said about 98% of bm in general.

Hey?! Why the heck?!

Written by angel. on 07.10.2016 at 03:04


Hey?! Why the heck?!

Well aparantly I was too drunk last night, but anyways I was being half-serious.
But hey, I really don't like this type of BM. It is just lame and empty for me.
I also dislike most of atmoblack/symphonic black/ folk black/ DSBM/ entire 1st and 2nd wave and the bands that worship them.

Written by mz on 07.10.2016 at 10:42


Well aparantly I was too drunk last night, but anyways I was being half-serious.
But hey, I really don't like this type of BM. It is just lame and empty for me.
I also dislike most of atmoblack/symphonic black/ folk black/ DSBM/ entire 1st and 2nd wave and the bands that worship them.

You hate three quarters of the scene I guess..

Written by angel. on 07.10.2016 at 14:56


You hate three quarters of the scene I guess..

pretty much

Written by mz on 07.10.2016 at 10:42

Written by angel. on 07.10.2016 at 03:04


Hey?! Why the heck?!

Well aparantly I was too drunk last night, but anyways I was being half-serious.
But hey, I really don't like this type of BM. It is just lame and empty for me.
I also dislike most of atmoblack/symphonic black/ folk black/ DSBM/ entire 1st and 2nd wave and the bands that worship them.

To make it a bit less complicated you dislike everything that isnt from Iceland or France
If you listen to usbm enough times youll get satanised in the end. Its not as strong as the second wave but it works I think False is the best usbm, dont like them?

False are quite decent but best USBM? Pretty huge stretch considering how much good stuff is from the US.

Written by Guest on 07.10.2016 at 15:26

False are quite decent but best USBM? Pretty huge stretch considering how much good stuff is from the US.

Not much good metal from Germany surprisingly!!

Written by Guest on 07.10.2016 at 15:21


To make it a bit less complicated you dislike everything that isnt from Iceland or France
If you listen to usbm enough times youll get satanised in the end. Its not as strong as the second wave but it works I think False is the best usbm, dont like them?

video

Nah. I like avantgarde BM,ambeint BM, drone BM and noisy BM. Industrial BM can be also very enjoyable but it is dead for now.
I also very much love densely layered BM like akhlhys. For atmoblack, I again like records with huge wall of sound and dense guitar layers like Earth and Pilars.
French BM has lost its momentum now, and we had not seen noticeable records from that scene this year. Iceland BM is indeed very nice, but it should diversify a bit and make it distinguishable from French BM.
There are two French and 2 Iceland BM records on my 2016 list as for now. Schammasch, skaphe and Nox formula did the best BM records this year, non of which are from France or Iceland
I also have heard false back in 2015 and gave it a retry yesterday when U posted it again. Nice, but would not call it great tbh.

Written by angel. on 07.10.2016 at 15:28

Not much good metal from Germany surprisingly!!

Dunno, I can think of a few good things from there: Ruins of Beverast, Nagelfar, Infestus, Aaskereia, Verdunkeln, Dark Tribe, Fäulnis, etc. Probably more dotted around.

Also, I thought you were a big fan of Lunar Aurora?

Written by Guest on 07.10.2016 at 15:33

Written by angel. on 07.10.2016 at 15:28

Not much good metal from Germany surprisingly!!

Dunno, I can think of a few good things from there: Ruins of Beverast, Nagelfar, Infestus, Aaskereia, Verdunkeln, Dark Tribe, Fäulnis, etc. Probably more dotted around.

Also, I thought you were a big fan of Lunar Aurora?

Oh yeah Lunar Aurora is a great one, I know a few of those above, Ruins of Beverast is certainly the most attractive one. Just saying US scene is wonderful although one might expect that somewhere in Northern Europe you'll have more of such US BM bands.

Written by 3rdWorld on 06.10.2016 at 05:48

I think I'm liking this. Deafheaven worship but with a near-sludgy and a very dark and heavier sound.

I've never really associated their sound with Deafheaven, I think they're much more of a Wolves In The Throne Room emulator than anything else. That said, that might be why I enjoyed their previous album more because it felt like a totally excellent channeling of the early WITTR sound (without outright cloning), while this sounds more like... something else. Not Deafheaven though. Still pretty good, but somehow feels a little less epic and folkloric compared to Elder Giants.

That said, these guys were awesome at Roadburn last year. Really great live band and their frontman, with his huge, nerdy-looking glasses, totally has the stereotypical "hipster black metal" look

Written by mz on 07.10.2016 at 15:29

Written by Guest on 07.10.2016 at 15:21


To make it a bit less complicated you dislike everything that isnt from Iceland or France
If you listen to usbm enough times youll get satanised in the end. Its not as strong as the second wave but it works I think False is the best usbm, dont like them?

video

Nah. I like avantgarde BM,ambeint BM, drone BM and noisy BM. Industrial BM can be also very enjoyable but it is dead for now.
I also very much love densely layered BM like akhlhys. For atmoblack, I again like records with huge wall of sound and dense guitar layers like Earth and Pilars.
French BM has lost its momentum now, and we had not seen noticeable records from that scene this year. Iceland BM is indeed very nice, but it should diversify a bit and make it distinguishable from French BM.
There are two French and 2 Iceland BM records on my 2016 list as for now. Schammasch, skaphe and Nox formula did the best BM records this year, non of which are from France or Iceland
I also have heard false back in 2015 and gave it a retry yesterday when U posted it again. Nice, but would not call it great tbh.

Fair enough. Have some of the people who liked second wave left ms? It seems the original second wave bands are highly praised but the bands playing second wave now doesnt get much attention. I joked about french and icelandic because they get so much attention, not pinpointing you

Written by Guest on 07.10.2016 at 15:26

False are quite decent but best USBM? Pretty huge stretch considering how much good stuff is from the US.

Its a great album. It was a bit steep in the beginning before I got acquainted with it, but now its just lovely. Not sure its your thing though, its quite melodic and the songs are stretched.

Written by Auntie Sahar on 07.10.2016 at 15:38

Written by 3rdWorld on 06.10.2016 at 05:48

I think I'm liking this. Deafheaven worship but with a near-sludgy and a very dark and heavier sound.

Really great live band and their frontman, with his huge, nerdy-looking glasses, totally has the stereotypical "hipster black metal" look

I noticed that too when i searched these guys I think its a decent album though, probably a 7-8.

Written by Auntie Sahar on 07.10.2016 at 15:38

I've never really associated their sound with Deafheaven, I think they're much more of a Wolves In The Throne Room emulator than anything else. That said, that might be why I enjoyed their previous album more because it felt like a totally excellent channeling of the early WITTR sound (without outright cloning), while this sounds more like... something else. Not Deafheaven though. Still pretty good, but somehow feels a little less epic and folkloric compared to Elder Giants.

That said, these guys were awesome at Roadburn last year. Really great live band and their frontman, with his huge, nerdy-looking glasses, totally has the stereotypical "hipster black metal" look

Well I'm a WITTR n00b and only heard Celestial Lineage which I didn't enjoy quite a lot so the only sound this reminded me is of Deafheaven. So I can't identify even if this has a lot of wittr influences/sounds alike. And yeah that hipster bm look seems to be the new rage these days. I actually like it more than the traditional looks really. Nothing beats the look of this Wrekmeister Harmonies guy though.

Written by Guest on 07.10.2016 at 15:33

Dunno, I can think of a few good things from there: Ruins of Beverast, Nagelfar, Infestus, Aaskereia, Verdunkeln, Dark Tribe, Fäulnis, etc. Probably more dotted around.

Also, I thought you were a big fan of Lunar Aurora?

You missed Voidcraeft. =P

Written by 3rdWorld on 07.10.2016 at 20:16

Well I'm a WITTR n00b and only heard Celestial Lineage which I didn't enjoy quite a lot so the only sound this reminded me is of Deafheaven. So I can't identify even if this has a lot of wittr influences/sounds alike. And yeah that hipster bm look seems to be the new rage these days. I actually like it more than the traditional looks really.

Nah, not Celestial Lineage, that's more of the "new" WITTR sound so to speak, Sun Worship is more akin to the Diadem/Two Hunters approach, minus the atmospheric effects. And I like the look too, if for no other reason than the fact that it's testament to just how far black metal has come aesthetically over the years. We've come a long way from bullet belts, spikes, and corpse paint

Written by 3rdWorld on 07.10.2016 at 20:16


Well I'm a WITTR n00b and only heard Celestial Lineage which I didn't enjoy quite a lot so the only sound this reminded me is of Deafheaven. So I can't identify even if this has a lot of wittr influences/sounds alike. And yeah that hipster bm look seems to be the new rage these days. I actually like it more than the traditional looks really. Nothing beats the look of this Wrekmeister Harmonies guy though.

You should defo check out the first two Wolves albums. Might not sound that interesting considering you heard all the influences first but they still take most of the influenced bands to the cleaners in sheer quality I'd say.

I feel like this could almost be the quintessential song of its type.

The first two Wolves albums should be checked out at any rate. Especially diadem. One of atmo blacks finest.

Yeah that sounds a bit more darker than the standard blackgaze I've heard from recent bands so I guess I will give the full thing a try later.

Well, if you ask me, and I realize no one did, one should check out ALL Wolves In The Throne Room albums.

Written by Zap on 07.10.2016 at 21:17

and I realize no one did

pun intended?

I did.

I haven't listened to there older albums in ages, but i remember them being better than this one.

I must say they sounded absolutely bland and overrated in their live show specially that they used playback. I wonder how did they find their to Roadburn to play there.