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Release date: 24 March 2003
Style: Alternative rock, Gothic doom metal

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01. Ghost Of The Sun
02. Sleeper
03. Criminals
04. A Premonition
05. Will I Arrive
06. Burn The Remembrance
07. Wealth
08. One Year From Now
09. Walking By A Wire
10. Complicity
11. Evidence
12. Omerta
13. Inside The City Of Glass

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Guest review by
Justin

Rating:
9.0
Katatonia's third album Discouraged Ones was a brave turning point for the band. It distanced the band from the black metal tag that shackled them, and allowed some more subtle influences to creep into the mix. Both 2000's Tonight's Decision and 2001's Last Fair Deal Gone Down seemed to build upon their strengths as musicians and the fine art of crafting songs, and clearly showed the bands growing skills in both atmospherics and the ability to project the depths of human despair without losing hope.

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published 18.09.2003 | Comments (41)

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NocturnalStalker - 23.02.2012 at 11:33  
Rating: 9 I consider this album to be the best in the Katatonia's modern era. Every song is memorable and performance is top class.
InnerSelf - 23.02.2012 at 13:30  
Rating: 9
Written by NocturnalStalker on 23.02.2012 at 11:33

I consider this album to be the best in the Katatonia's modern era. Every song is memorable and performance is top class.


It is Renske's vocal performance is one of the highlights
NocturnalStalker - 23.02.2012 at 13:43  
Rating: 9
Written by InnerSelf on 23.02.2012 at 13:30

It is Renske's vocal performance is one of the highlights

I completely agree.
iamtheocean - 27.02.2012 at 23:44  
Rating: 10
Written by NocturnalStalker on 23.02.2012 at 13:43

Written by InnerSelf on 23.02.2012 at 13:30

It is Renske's vocal performance is one of the highlights

I completely agree.


Absolutely! His voice is amazing in this album.
Probably my favourite Katatonia album (BMD, LFDGD and TGCD are very close)
musicalkaratekid - 10.04.2012 at 02:21  
Rating: 9 This is one hell of a good album, i have to say. The variation that goes through each of these songs shows just how talented katatonia are, whilst Renkse's vocals soar and croon with such beauty, fitting each atmosphere that is created every time. I also love how the guitars make everything seem so grandiose and epic. Speaking of epics, 'Inside the city of glass' seems to take you to another world with obscure wonder and dreamlike melody. definitely the band's best album of the 21st century.
Dentura - 25.06.2012 at 23:06  
Rating: 10 Amazing album! Katatonia are one of my top five favorite bands of all time because of albums like this. One of my favorites of all time.
Susan - 25.06.2012 at 23:30  
Rating: 10 Nothing short of a masterpiece! It was also my first Katatonia album so has special sentimental value
Kenos - 26.06.2012 at 12:05  
  It's incredible.
Replayability: ∞
Apatheria - 26.06.2012 at 12:48  
Rating: 9 The finest of latter era Katatonia. Their trademark melancholic atmospheres are front and center through the entire record, with Nystrom's great sense of melody shining from track to track. The album also features what is perhaps Renske's finest performance behind the mic. He was never a refined singer to begin with; more of a weary poet. But here, he sounds more haunted than ever, and has clearly matured as a singer as well. Although there is plenty of variety in heaviness and tempo from track to track, the overall dreary mood is very consistent from track to track, showing Katatonia at their best in terms of songwriting and overall album construction.

This will always be in my top 3 of Katatonia's exceptional discography. Great band, great record. Pick it up.
!J.O.O.E.! - 26.06.2012 at 15:38  
Rating: 10 I'm liking the string of high scoring comments this album has received the past few days.

Probably the only album I'm incapable of getting bored of.
Marcel Hubregtse - 26.06.2012 at 15:49  
Rating: 9 By far their best of latter day Katatonia.
Slayer666 - 27.06.2012 at 00:39  
Rating: 5 I have to once again state my disbelief about the general reception of this album.
To me, this is by far the worst thing they've ever done, 5 good tracks and 8 immensely boring turds. Although, hearing that sample track from their newest one, I think Dead End Kings has the potential to top this one in terms of sucking ass.
Mr. Doctor - 27.06.2012 at 00:50  
Rating: 9
Written by Slayer666 on 27.06.2012 at 00:39

I have to once again state my disbelief about the general reception of this album.
To me, this is by far the worst thing they've ever done, 5 good tracks and 8 immensely boring turds. Although, hearing that sample track from their newest one, I think Dead End Kings has the potential to top this one in terms of sucking ass.


Hahahahahahahahahahhahaha.


That is all.








No, seriously... we both know it's useless to argue. So yeah... cheers or something! Have a beer!
Slayer666 - 27.06.2012 at 00:56  
Rating: 5
Written by Mr. Doctor on 27.06.2012 at 00:50

cheers or something! Have a beer!


No thanks, I'm hungover as fuck...

I wasn't trying to start any arguments or anything, I was just trying to understand, as I've been doing for the past 2 years, what do people hear in this album that makes them go "ooooh, Katatonia's best!". Because it seems to me like I'm missing out on something.
Troy Killjoy - 27.06.2012 at 05:35  
 
Written by Slayer666 on 27.06.2012 at 00:56
Because it seems to me like I'm missing out on something.

Whatever we're missing, I'm too busy listening to Brave Murder Day to care.
Slayer666 - 28.06.2012 at 10:41  
Rating: 5
Written by Troy Killjoy on 27.06.2012 at 05:35

Whatever we're missing, I'm too busy listening to Brave Murder Day to care.


Hah, QFT.
Although it's more Dance of December Souls in my case.
Mr. Doctor - 28.06.2012 at 13:22  
Rating: 9 ^ LAME to both of you
Troy Killjoy - 28.06.2012 at 16:01  
  I'll take either one, Slayer.
!J.O.O.E.! - 28.06.2012 at 16:14  
Rating: 10
Written by Troy Killjoy on 28.06.2012 at 16:01

I'll take either one, Slayer.

Don't make me link to the abominations you've been flooding in my lovely New Non-Metal Rec's thread >8[
Troy Killjoy - 28.06.2012 at 16:16  
 
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 28.06.2012 at 16:14
Don't make me link to the abominations you've been flooding in my lovely New Non-Metal Rec's thread >8[

A lot of contemporary pop music works far better for me than contemporary Katatonia.
!J.O.O.E.! - 28.06.2012 at 16:33  
Rating: 10
Written by Troy Killjoy on 28.06.2012 at 16:16

A lot of contemporary pop music works far better for me than contemporary Katatonia.

I wouldn't call this contemporary Katatonia though, this is more middle-latter era (and it's nearly a decade old). Quite a distinct change in style after this one.
Marcel Hubregtse - 28.06.2012 at 16:35  
Rating: 9
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 28.06.2012 at 16:33

Written by Troy Killjoy on 28.06.2012 at 16:16

A lot of contemporary pop music works far better for me than contemporary Katatonia.

I wouldn't call this contemporary Katatonia though, this is more middle-latter era (and it's nearly a decade old). Quite a distinct change in style after this one.


I just wanted to say the same thing. This is nothing like contemporary mind numbingly boring sleep inducing Katatonia.
Troy Killjoy - 28.06.2012 at 16:39  
 
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 28.06.2012 at 16:33
I wouldn't call this contemporary Katatonia though, this is more middle-latter era (and it's nearly a decade old). Quite a distinct change in style after this one.

I suppose contemporary was the wrong word - I just lump all of their post-Brave Murder Day stuff into the same category.
!J.O.O.E.! - 28.06.2012 at 16:42  
Rating: 10
Written by Troy Killjoy on 28.06.2012 at 16:39

I suppose contemporary was the wrong word - I just lump all of their post-Brave Murder Day stuff into the same category.

But Discouraged Ones is quite different to the following three, which in turn sound nothing like the two after it ;]
Troy Killjoy - 28.06.2012 at 16:54  
  Oh I'm not trying to say all of their post-BMD albums all sound the same. I know some of them still have a strong gothic doom sound and others stick to a more alternative style, and some combine both of those elements. All I meant is that none of those albums work for me so I just kind of place them in the same bin.

THE GARBAGE BIN.

In all seriousness though, there are still a few tracks that I enjoy from their mid-era days. I just can't even remember what they're called. :/
Slayer666 - 29.06.2012 at 01:18  
Rating: 5 Dunno, I like literally all Katatonia albums, some more some less, other than this one. Which is odd, seeing as how everyone loves the shit out of it.

Is that considered hipster? :/
Oaken - 02.09.2012 at 03:36  
Rating: 6 I first stumbled upon this when I used to pick some tracks from an album and not listen to the whole album. "Criminals" was the song I listened to, and it was amazing. I liked it more and more, and it soon became my favorite song. Later, I decided to listen to the whole album, and as every track proceeded, I thought "why are those songs so mediocre COMPARED to the amazing Criminals?". My thoughts of Viva Emptiness were vastly affected by listening to one song only. I never listened to individual songs after that.
Evil Chip - 27.09.2012 at 23:43  
Rating: 8 It's a really short life record. I got bored of it really quickly, the songs are good but not outstanding. They never got to the level of Brave Murder Day in any other record (regardless of the style).
Mr. Doctor - 28.09.2012 at 17:25  
Rating: 9
Written by Evil Chip on 27.09.2012 at 23:43

It's a really short life record. I got bored of it really quickly, the songs are good but not outstanding. They never got to the level of Brave Murder Day in any other record (regardless of the style).


Man, I strongly disagree... To me this album gets better and better like good old wine. One of their most memorable albums. I love their first 3 albums just as much but this one is the only one which I keep discovering new stuff.

Oh how the mighty have fallen...
Evil Chip - 28.09.2012 at 22:56  
Rating: 8
Written by Mr. Doctor on 28.09.2012 at 17:25

Written by Evil Chip on 27.09.2012 at 23:43

It's a really short life record. I got bored of it really quickly, the songs are good but not outstanding. They never got to the level of Brave Murder Day in any other record (regardless of the style).


Man, I strongly disagree... To me this album gets better and better like good old wine. One of their most memorable albums. I love their first 3 albums just as much but this one is the only one which I keep discovering new stuff.

Oh how the mighty have fallen...

Really? This is the one I come back for singing along. Lot of good songs but I don't get the album experience of this one and it gets boring (at least for me) after a while even though I never overplayed it.
Mr. Doctor - 28.09.2012 at 22:58  
Rating: 9
Written by Evil Chip on 28.09.2012 at 22:56
Really? This is the one I come back for singing along.


Well yeah... I hear tons of nice textures going on. I love how it's an easy listen but still delivers fantastic, strong and tight songwriting if you stop the vocals for a second and focus.
Evil Chip - 29.09.2012 at 01:55  
Rating: 8
Written by Mr. Doctor on 28.09.2012 at 22:58

Written by Evil Chip on 28.09.2012 at 22:56
Really? This is the one I come back for singing along.


Well yeah... I hear tons of nice textures going on.

Well, is just that I don't find them as captivating as you but I agree that every song is good. If it wasn't for the lack of album feeling that I feel it would be a really good album.
Mr. Doctor - 29.09.2012 at 01:58  
Rating: 9
Written by Evil Chip on 29.09.2012 at 01:55
the lack of album feeling


Evil Chip - 29.09.2012 at 02:03  
Rating: 8
Written by Mr. Doctor on 29.09.2012 at 01:58

Written by Evil Chip on 29.09.2012 at 01:55
the lack of album feeling




Like I said before I like the songs separately but the album as a whole bores me.
Erik M. - 01.10.2012 at 21:54  
Rating: 5
Written by Slayer666 on 28.06.2012 at 10:41

Written by Troy Killjoy on 27.06.2012 at 05:35

Whatever we're missing, I'm too busy listening to Brave Murder Day to care.


Hah, QFT.
Although it's more Dance of December Souls in my case.


And I'm listening to both of those amazing albums.

I'll never understand why this album is regarded as one of Katatonia's greatest albums, as it's one of few albums I actually regret buying.
Array - 18.06.2013 at 16:17  
Rating: 9 Remix&Remaster on the way.
Marcel Hubregtse - 18.06.2013 at 16:46  
Rating: 9
Written by Array on 18.06.2013 at 16:17

Remix&Remaster on the way.


totally no need for that. That will most probably destroy this album.
!J.O.O.E.! - 18.06.2013 at 17:10  
Rating: 10 Totally unnecessary. It'll end up sounding like the recent boring and sterile albums I guarantee.
God Alone - 18.06.2013 at 17:18  
Rating: 9 Pfft. I'm sure I'll love the remaster and the atmospheric DEK too. ^^
Array - 18.06.2013 at 19:52  
Rating: 9 Moments like Walking By A Wire's chorus will probably change the most.
Dentura - 26.06.2013 at 16:56  
Rating: 10 I'll be curious about how the remastered Viva Emptiness will sound, but I agree that there is no need. I think the copy I have sounds fine the way it is.
God Alone - 25.10.2013 at 22:00  
Rating: 9 Bought the remastered edition. Listening right now.

It's wonderful, it's damn wonderful.
Now I REALLY understand why they said they weren't satisfied with the mixing.

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