Lingua Ignota - Caligula



7.7 | 33 votes |
Release date: 19 July 2019
Style: Neoclassical Darkwave , Death Industrial

Owners:

12 have it
4 want it


01. Faithful Servant Friend Of Christ
02. Do You Doubt Me Traitor
03. Butcher Of The World 
04. May Failure Be Your Noose [feat. Mike Berdan]
05. Fragrant Is My Many Flowered Crown
06. If The Poison Won't Take You My Dogs Will
07. Day Of Tears And Mourning [feat. Dylan Walker]
08. Sorrow! Sorrow! Sorrow!
09. Spite Alone Holds Me Aloft [feat. Noraa Kaplan]
10. Fucking Deathdealer
11. I Am The Beast

Line-up
Lingua Ignota - all instruments, vocals

Session musicians
Laura Gulley - violin
Ted Byrnes - percussion
Lee Buford - drums
Seth Manchester - drums
Emily Dix-Thomas - cello

Guest musicians
Mike Berdan - vocals
Dylan Walker - vocals
Noraa Kaplan - vocals

Additional info
Engineered and mixed by Seth Manchester at Machines With Magnets
Mastered by Heba Kadry

Staff review by
RaduP
Rating:
N/A
Metal has been dealing with violence, revenge and religious imagery for a long while, but it is actually an industrial neoclassical darkwave that really touches these subjects in a way that you cannot escape.

Read more ››
published 23.08.2019 | Comments (6)

Found in 7 lists
Top lists



Comments page 2 / 2

Comments: 37   Visited by: 129 users
27.08.2019 - 14:35
Rating: 9
RaduP
CertifiedHipster
Also I can't for the life of me understand why you think this has no artistic merit.

Even if you take away your issues with her being a woman, I can understand not liking this album, but not claiming that there is no art here whatsoever.

And if it were made by a man, it probably would've sounded a lot differently given how much of the music is directly related to her experience as a woman and her woman voice. If it were made by a man with similar experiences and it were as good, it would probably be like a Xiu Xiu record and I'd like it just as much, given that it's just as good.
----
Take off those stupid glasses and kiss me
Loading...
27.08.2019 - 14:39
Mercurial
For me the "no artistic merit" argument should really be reserved for the ultra generic and derivative. I can see an "Is this art?" argument being applied to this record for some, but to me though it's not even that weird or avant-garde.
Loading...
27.08.2019 - 14:40
Rating: 4
ManiacBlasphemer
Black Knight
Written by Mercurial on 27.08.2019 at 14:02

I guess I'll expand on your point a little more because it invites more questions.

Metal hasn't become more poppy. What it has done is expand toward both extremes. A lot of metal has an extemity not found in older bands; the inclusion of noise, hyper-dissonance and other unpalatable elements is something specific to modern metal. Doom, black, death and others can be a hell of a lot more extreme than they used to be so I'd say your argument is somewhat void.

Also, the notion that preferring melodic or poppy music is more superficial is not something I can really get behind. A person can personally love their poppy power metal as I love my dissonant black metal, or maybe more. I think the idea of superficiality comes from this false notion of working for what you like or being in a niche: "I like dissonant black metal because I understand bleh bleh musical structures and flumph textures and grebebbenn tonality" etc. For me personal taste is just that: personal. People flocking to some of the poppier sides of metal doesn't to me engender a "superficial" tag, it just means they have taste which is easier to appeal to.


Metal has become more accessible and poppy, particularly after the mid 90s when innovation has kinda stopped due to various reasons, but particularly because technology has kinda stopped evolving in this regard and that metal music as a musical genre kinda reached the its development peak. You just couldn't play faster than what has already been played or slower than what has already been played until then. As such, the only way it could go was down.

There are today essentially two sides in the metal spectrum, the happy-go-lucky-pop-leaning sub-genres such as power metal, symphonic metal, modern gothic metal, melodic metal, etc. and the edgelord type of music composed of the other extreme atonal death metal bands, caveman black metal, etc. with very little in between. As Tom Angelripper said in an interview long ago, essentially 80% of the metal bands play a variation of pop with distorted guitars.

Of course, nothing wrong with playing pop metal. I like some too. But saying that today metal is stronger than ever before is a travesty. In quantity, it is. There are probably more metal bands today and more metal music today than it has ever been before. But the quality has dipped seriously. And since the offer is so strong today, it is becoming harder and harder to search for quality in metal music as a lot of capable bands are overshadowed by crappy ones but with more popularity and exposure. The golden age of metal was in the 80s to mid 90s. That is when the there was a huge number of high quality bands and high quality music being released, particularly after the advent of thrash who made a small revolution within the heavy metal music genre. After this period, the number of quality bands and releases have diminished year by year. Of course, there are still good bands and good albums, but compared to the offer, they are very few.
Loading...
27.08.2019 - 14:44
Mercurial
Written by ManiacBlasphemer on 27.08.2019 at 14:40

Metal has become more accessible and poppy, particularly after the mid 90s when innovation has kinda stopped due to various reasons, but particularly because technology has kinda stopped evolving in this regard and that metal music as a musical genre kinda reached the its development peak. You just couldn't play faster than what has already been played or slower than what has already been played until then. As such, the only way it could go was down.

There are today essentially two sides in the metal spectrum, the happy-go-lucky-pop-leaning sub-genres such as power metal, symphonic metal, modern gothic metal, melodic metal, etc. and the edgelord type of music composed of the other extreme atonal death metal bands, caveman black metal, etc. with very little in between. As Tom Angelripper said in an interview long ago, essentially 80% of the metal bands play a variation of pop with distorted guitars.

Of course, nothing wrong with playing pop metal. I like some too. But saying that today metal is stronger than ever before is a travesty. In quantity, it is. There are probably more metal bands today and more metal music today than it has ever been before. But the quality has dipped seriously. And since the offer is so strong today, it is becoming harder and harder to search for quality in metal music as a lot of capable bands are overshadowed by crappy ones but with more popularity and exposure. The golden age of metal was in the 80s to mid 90s. That is when the there was a huge number of high quality bands and high quality music being released, particularly after the advent of thrash who made a small revolution within the heavy metal music genre. After this period, the number of quality bands and releases have diminished year by year. Of course, there are still good bands and good albums, but compared to the offer, they are very few.

Well that's definitely an opinion. It's not one I feel requires a rebuttal though given how personal that opinion is. Needless to say it's one that doesn't resonate with my tastes and perception of metal as a current state.

The "edgelord" comments really don't help with the merits your case though. I find it weird that anyone making a point wouldn't look back on that and think "Yeah, that kinda tanks the validity of everything else I was saying a bit" but maybe that's just me.
Loading...
27.08.2019 - 14:46
Rating: 4
ManiacBlasphemer
Black Knight
Written by RaduP on 27.08.2019 at 14:32

Will I be the first one to notice that the person who complains about metal being poppy and commercial is the one with the Kamelot profile pic?


Which I stated that I like some pop metal too. For some reason my last comment got deleted.

EDIT: Actually not, it passed to the other page. LOL
Loading...
27.08.2019 - 14:49
Rating: 9
RaduP
CertifiedHipster
I still can't wait to hear some metal made by gamers, the true oppressed folk
----
Take off those stupid glasses and kiss me
Loading...
27.08.2019 - 14:55
Rating: 4
ManiacBlasphemer
Black Knight
Written by RaduP on 27.08.2019 at 14:35

Also I can't for the life of me understand why you think this has no artistic merit.

Even if you take away your issues with her being a woman, I can understand not liking this album, but not claiming that there is no art here whatsoever.

And if it were made by a man, it probably would've sounded a lot differently given how much of the music is directly related to her experience as a woman and her woman voice. If it were made by a man with similar experiences and it were as good, it would probably be like a Xiu Xiu record and I'd like it just as much, given that it's just as good.


You presume I have an issue with her being a woman. I don't. I just noticed that her being a woman has a lot to with her popularity. If you can find art in her music then good for you. I don't.

The music essentially evokes no emotion other than boredom. I don't find emotion or some life experience in elevator music with weird vocalizing. Had it been made by a man with or without similar circumstances, it wouldn't have even a quarter of this artist's exposure and most likely it would have went beyond the radar. Even beyond your radar. And my radar too.
Loading...

Hits total: 1657 | This month: 85