16:32 - Karlabos But it's a second degree influence u.u If Oranssi has psychedelic on it then it makes first degree stoner influence. Plus the riff is memorable, atmosphere is trippy. All the stoner scenario is set =]
16:29 - Apothecary Yeah, now that I think of it, this actually is probably one of the closest things to "stoner black metal" you could find *waits for Marcel to tell me I'm wrong* [link]
16:26 - Apothecary Stoner metal is deeply rooted in psychedelia, but also remember that psychedelic rock is deeply rooted in the blues as well, so the influence is still there
16:24 - Karlabos The last album does. Well, I don't necessarily connect bluesy with stoner, for me stoner metal is somewhat consisting of slow to mid paced memorable riffing, with psychedelic vibe and retro production
16:20 - Apothecary Not to mention, you're really taking that track out of context imo, most Oranssi Pazuzu actually doesn't sound like that
16:19 - Apothecary To me stoner metal usually has a bit of a bluesy sense of groove to the riffs, I don't here that there at all, it's just a minor chord riff repeated over and over
16:17 - Apothecary You could MAYBE argue Glorior Belli (MUATSS and forwards) are, but that's still kinda stretching it. Like I said, the style is very rare
Disc I 01. Like Rats 02. Christbait Rising 03. Pulp 04. Dream Long Dead 05. Head Dirt 06. Street Cleaner 07. Devastator 08. Mighty Trust Krusher 09. Life Is Easy 10. Locust Furnace 11. Tiny Tears [bonus] 12. Wound [bonus] 13. Dead Head [bonus] 14. Suction [bonus]
Disc II[2010 Remaster re-release] 01. Like Rats [Original Unreleased Mix] 02. Christbait Rising [Original Unreleased Mix] 03. Pulp [Original Unreleased Mix] 04. Dream Long Dead [Original Unreleased Mix] 05. Head Dirt [Original Unreleased Mix] 06. Streetcleaner [Live In Geneva 1990] 07. Head Dirt [Live In Geneva 1990] 08. Pulp [Rehearsal May 1989] 09. Dream Long Dead [Rehearsal April 1989] 10. Christbait Rising [Rehearsal April 1989] 11. Deadhead [Original Demo Guitar & Machine 1988] 12. Suction [Original Demo Guitar & Machine 1988]
2010 saw the Godflesh reunite for a (marred) performance at Hellfest, and saw Earache re-release a special 2cd anniversary version of this classic with remastered versions of the original tracks on one disk, and unreleased mixes and live versions of the same track order on the second disk.
Whether the original Streetcleaner or the MMX reissue, it's a slow, crushing, claustrophobic, bleak, and asphyxiating album that will leave you roadkill.
I've always preferred the s/t debut EP to this, and the pre-Godflesh stuff under the 'Fall of Because' name even more than that. Much more dense, noisy and satisfying than this I feel.
Never heard their earlier stuff, which currently feels like a stupid move by me. I'm quite liking the sound of those tracks. Too much industrial, or a primarily industrial focus is a tad off-putting for me (usually). However, when you mix industrial with other genres, I find that wonderful things can happen.