Event information

Location: Germany, Wacken (Festivalgelände)
Date: 04-07 August 2010
Website: wacken.com
Organizer: ICS Event Service

Tickets:

130
Buy at www.metal-train.de


Wacken Open Air 2009 was a huge disappointment for many metal fans. In 2008 the world's biggest heavy metal festival has booked Iron Maiden as headliners and has raised the bar a bit too high for its own good. In 2009, the 20th anniversary of this legendary festival, a lot of bands appeared which have played in the years before already, but no uber headliner a la Iron Maiden to justify the high ticket price. Many people blamed the W:O:A to rely on its name only as the 20th edition was sold out eight months prior to the festival. In 2010 however the Wacken Open Air proves all these critics wrong...

Iron Maiden are back again! And this time they aren't the uber headliners of 2008, but only primus inter pares ("first among equals"): thrash titans Slayer, glam metal monsters Mötley Crüe and the father of shock rock Alice Cooper are also confirmed as headliners for the 21st edition. And as always there are a few special performances: Grave Digger celebrate their 30th anniversary by performing the entire "Tunes of War" album, a show which will also feature some special guests, while Swedish gothic metal pioneers Tiamat will be performing their legendary "Wildhoney" album, 20 years after the band Treblinka mutated into the Tiamat we know today. But even if you don't care for either of these bands, Wacken once again offers a wide array of metal styles for almost everyone: black metal with Immortal and 1349, death metal with Cannibal Corpse and grindcore supergroup Lock Up, power metal with Kamelot and Stratovarius, heavy metal with U.D.O. and W.A.S.P., modern metal with Fear Factory and Soulfly, etc. etc. etc.. All in all a whopping 122 acts will perform on five stages over a period of four days.

Wacken Open Air takes plays in - surprise! - Wacken in Northern Germany, a small village with merely 2,000 inhabitants on 361 days of the year. The town is located 10 km north of Itzehoe and 50 km northwest of Hamburg. There will be shuttle buses from the festival site to the train station in Itzehoe as well as to the airports in Berlin, Hamburg, Bremen and Lübeck. For more info on getting there and away check the festival page here.

Certainly not the cheapest, but probably the most fun way to get to and from Wacken has to be the Metal Train. The "railway to hell" equals one huge party of 850 metalheads in one train with 16 wagons, which includes two dedicated disco wagons. Check the website for the schedule and prices.

The festival is officially sold out since April. Most tour operators (e.g. Metal Train for Germany, Bock Tours for the Netherlands, Germany, Austria or Switzerland, Argon Events for the UK) still have tickets in stock though.

Another way to acquire your ticket would be the ticket exchange in the official forum which aims for eliminating the black marketing going on eBay and reducing the risk of acquiring fake tickets. In this exchange the Wacken staff supervises the ticket prices and acts as trust which means that the seller sends the ticket(s) to the staff who verifies the authenticity of the ticket(s) and reports it to the buyer. After the buyer has transferred the money to the seller, the Wacken staff will pass on the ticket(s) to the buyer. More information on this model can be found here (in German).

Further readings:
Wacken 2009 review
Wacken 2008 review
Wacken 2007 review

Who was there?

100% corrupt
100% Promonex
100% Valentin B (Belgium)
100% buki of steel (Croatia)
100% Infurnace (The Netherlands)
100% Woutjinho (The Netherlands)
100% Maxx666 (USA)
100% Aylee_Bodom (Spain)
100% DanielViking (Finland)
100% Hexx (Estonia)
100% LeDruide (France)
100% In Chaos (Norway)
100% Skyum (Denmark)
100% Jack--- (Denmark)
100% Enigma (Portugal)
100% Arsen (Armenia)
100% Gâsh (The Netherlands)
100% Marcelo Hissa (Brazil)
100% arsene (Iran)
100% hanfsud
100% Misanthrope (UAE)
100% Dewil Rituale (Bulgaria)
100% COBdeath666 (Portugal)
100% Brodd (Denmark)
100% Fraja (Peru)
100% Miquele
100% Saltimbank021 (France)
100% Satyr (Montenegro)
100% thrasher_93 (Cyprus)
100% Trust (Portugal)
100% sempai (Latvia)
100% Oriôn (Belgium)
100% valeria (UK)
100% Tapyoh (Finland)
100% Grumble (The Netherlands)
100% Moocher (France)
100% Oroandien (Czech Republic)
100% JaimeeFotzeBetrunken (New Zealand)
100% Izarus (Denmark)
100% MikeD (Israel)
100% Buried Dreamer (Brazil)
100% Arcadius667 (Ireland)
100% Usurpus (UK)
100% Mi4U (France)
100% Doomhammer
100% davidog (Israel)
100% Necrozika (Sweden)
100% Talrin
100% vip (France)
100% mephisto_loh (Mexico)
100% AprilEthereal (USA)
100% iblis (Turkey)
100% antubis (Bulgaria)
100% ruby_anathema (Turkey)
100% Fjorten (Denmark)
100% jtwrs (Spain)
100% Vihtori Raivoisa (Finland)
100% Aelitha (Russia)
100% Wolfhead'sTree (USA)
100% anaavila (Portugal)
100% Princeps (The Netherlands)
100% Sword_of_Dawn
100% JuliusForgeron (France)
100% Vincent M (Israel)
100% zmya (Croatia)
100% Hugo (Slovak Republic)
100% huntlus (Estonia)
100% Dunkelgeist (Spain)
100% deathspell omega (The Netherlands)
100% Sautherom (Mexico)
100% ANArhia (Romania)
100% benjaminzzz
100% toxxxicmetalhead (USA)
100% funnelweb (Turkey)
100% Tinuviel (Canada)
100% Nachtblueter
100% nihil (Turkey)
90% infernall (Romania)
90% Suisaidfet (Indonesia)
80% Brave Sir Robbo (UK)
80% kott
80% thunder_lord (UK)
80% omermetalol (Israel)
80% mel (Turkey)
80% Metalpii (Switzerland)
80% Lola 8 (Croatia)
70% Fabiana Thoresen (Brazil)
70% iluvatar1 (Israel)
60% Sludge Cowboy (Greece)
60% bacho_dato (Georgia)
50% kaoskrew (UK)
50% Elegy (Belgium)
50% enanox (Uruguay)
50% Den Gode Hr. Kim (Denmark)
50% RimV (Australia)
50% croninsdisease (USA)
50% Yomyael (Vatican)
40% Nefarious (UAE)
10% In_tallica (Sweden)
10% Dr.TeM (Syria)
10% + Funeral X + (Iran)


DAY 1 (04.08)

W.E.T. Stage
12:00 - 12:30 Victims Of Madness
12:50 - 13:15 Void Creation (Metal Battle Austria)
13:35 - 14:00 No Dawn (Metal Battle Norway)
14:20 - 14:45 Snakebite (Metal Battle UK)
15:05 - 15:30 Raging Mob (Metal Battle China)
15:50 - 16:15 Dymytry (Metal Battle Czech Republic)
16:35 - 17:00 By The Patient (Metal Battle Denmark)
17:20 - 17:45 Forever Storm (Metal Battle Ex-Yugoslavia)
18:05 - 18:30 Metal Battle Finland
18:50 - 19:15 Frontal (Metal Battle France)
19:35 - 20:00 Vice (Metal Battle Germany)
20:20 - 20:45 Total Riot (Metal Battle Greece)
21:05 - 21:30 Wistaria (Metal Battle Iceland)
21:50 - 22:15 Missing In Action (Metal Battle Israel)
22:35 - 23:00 Penthagon (Metal Battle Italy)
23:20 - 23:45 Soul Stealer (Metal Battle Lithuania)
00:00 - 01:00 Mambo Kurt
Wackinger Stage
18:00 - 19:00 Lord Of The Lost
20:00 - 21:00 Fiddler's Green
22:00 - 23:00 Red Hot Chili Pipers
Beergarden Stage
20:00 - 21:00 W:O:A Firefighters
22:00 - 23:00 Mambo Kurt
Red Bull Bus
13:30 - 14:15 Rock Rotten's 9mm Assi Rock'n'Roll


DAY 2 (05.08)

True Metal Stage
17:30 - 19:00 Alice Cooper
21:30 - 23:30 Iron Maiden
Black Stage
16:00 - 16:45 Skyline
16:50 - 17:25 Metal Hammer Awards
19:30 - 21:00 Mötley Crüe
W.E.T. Stage
12:00 - 12:25 Orcus O Dis (Metal Battle Mexico)
12:45 - 13:10 Seven Ends (Metal Battle Netherlands)
13:30 - 13:55 Demolished (Metal Battle Belgium)
14:15 - 14:40 The Sixpounder (Metal Battle Poland)
15:00 - 15:25 Prayers Of Sanity (Metal Battle Portugal)
15:45 - 16:10 Altar (Metal Battle Romania)
16:30 - 16:55 Vita Imana (Metal Battle Spain)
17:15 - 17:40 Katana (Metal Battle Sweden)
18:00 - 18:25 Hathors (Metal Battle Switzerland)
18:45 - 19:10 Cangaço (Metal Battle Brazil)
19:30 - 19:55 Black Out Beauty (Metal Battle Luxembourg)
20:15 - 21:00 Ghost Brigade
21:20 - 21:50 Macbeth [GER] (Metal Masters Winner)
22:10 - 22:40 Crysys
23:00 - 23:45 Gojira
Wackinger Stage
17:00 - 18:00 Svartsot
19:00 - 20:00 Torfrock
21:00 - 22:00 Hanggai
Beergarden Stage
18:00 - 19:00 Mambo Kurt
20:00 - 21:00 W:O:A Firefighters
Red Bull Bus
13:30 - 14:15 Secret Show


DAY 3 (06.08)

True Metal Stage
11:45 - 12:45 Amorphis
14:15 - 15:15 Ill Niño
16:45 - 17:45 The BossHoss
19:15 - 20:15 Kamelot
21:45 - 23:00 Grave Digger
00:45 - 01:45 Anvil
Black Stage
11:00 - 11:40 Dew-Scented
13:00 - 14:00 Orphaned Land
15:30 - 16:30 Die Apokalyptischen Reiter
18:00 - 19:00 Endstille
20:30 - 21:30 Arch Enemy
23:15 - 00:30 Slayer
02:00 - 03:00 Cantus Buranus
Party Stage
11:00 - 11:40 End Of Green
13:00 - 14:00 Job For A Cowboy
15:30 - 16:30 Voivod
18:00 - 19:00 Frei.Wild
20:30 - 21:30 Tarja
23:15 - 00:15 1349
02:00 - 03:00 Atrocity
W.E.T. Stage
11:00 - 11:30 Brutus
11:55 - 12:25 Dead Means Nothing
12:50 - 13:20 Suicidal Angels
13:45 - 14:15 Astral Doors
14:40 - 15:10 Hackneyed
15:35 - 16:05 Mad Max
16:30 - 17:00 The Other
17:25 - 18:00 Eternal Legacy
18:25 - 18:55 Evile
19:20 - 19:55 Lizzy Borden
20:25 - 21:10 Broilers
21:40 - 22:10 Holy Grail
22:40 - 23:25 Secrets Of The Moon
23:55 - 00:40 Ihsahn
01:10 - 01:40 Imperium Dekadenz
02:10 - 02:55 Raven
Wackinger Stage
18:00 - 19:00 Schelmish
20:00 - 21:00 Letzte Instanz
22:00 - 23:00 Equilibrium
Beergarden Stage
18:00 - 19:00 Hells Belles
20:00 - 21:00 Fanfara Kalashnikov
22:00 - 23:00 Mambo Kurt


DAY 4 (07.08)

True Metal Stage
13:15 - 14:15 Caliban
15:45 - 16:45 Overkill
18:15 - 19:15 W.A.S.P.
20:45 - 21:45 Edguy
23:15 - 00:15 Soulfly
01:35 - 02:50 U.D.O.
Black Stage
12:00 - 13:00 Ektomorf
14:30 - 15:30 Unleashed
17:00 - 18:00 Lock Up
19:30 - 20:30 Cannibal Corpse
22:00 - 23:00 Immortal
00:30 - 01:30 Fear Factory
Party Stage
12:00 - 13:00 Smoke Blow
14:30 - 15:30 Kampfar
17:00 - 18:00 Delain
19:30 - 20:30 Stratovarius
22:00 - 23:00 Candlemass
00:30 - 01:30 Tiamat
W.E.T. Stage
12:00 - 12:30 Nightmare
12:55 - 13:25 The New Black
13:50 - 14:20 Degradead
14:45 - 15:15 Crucified Barbara
15:40 - 16:10 Skanners
16:35 - 17:20 Die Kassierer
17:45 - 18:15 Metsatöll
18:40 - 19:10 Varg
19:35 - 20:05 Debauchery
20:25 - 21:10 Sólstafir
21:35 - 22:20 Lake Of Tears
22:45 - 23:15 Rotting Christ
23:40 - 00:15 Despised Icon
00:45 - 01:30 Killing Machine
02:00 - 02:45 The Devil's Blood
Wackinger Stage
18:00 - 19:00 The Keltics
20:00 - 21:00 Týr
22:00 - 23:00 Orden Ogan
Beergarden Stage
12:00 - 13:00 W:O:A Firefighters
19:00 - 20:00 Fanfara Kalashnikov
21:00 - 22:00 Hells Belles
22:30 - 23:30 Mambo Kurt


News

 21.04.2010 - Wacken - Vote For Unknown Band To Play At Wacken


Reviews

 Wacken Open Air - Wacken, Germany, 5th August 2010 by Promonex
 Wacken Open Air - Wacken, Germany, 6th August 2010 by Promonex
 Wacken Open Air - Wacken, Germany, 7th August 2010 by Promonex
 The Railway to Hell - A Prologue to Wacken by Promonex


Photo galleries

Wacken Open Air 2010 - Day 3 by Promonex (124 images)
Wacken Open Air 2010 - Day 2 by Promonex (146 images)
Wacken Open Air 2010 - Day 1 & Miscellaneous (NSFW!) by Promonex (55 images)
Metal Train 2010 by Promonex (120 images)




 
Updated: 28.07.2010




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Marcel Hubregtse - 08.01.2010 at 19:12  
Written by corrupt on 08.01.2010 at 18:54


Haha! Good one. Yeah, I didn't mean Cynic, I meant Gojira. I was listening to Cynic earlier today and I'm known to make these associative mistakes. Good thing nobody else noticed


Aha Gojira now that makes sense if I remember correctly they did indeed address the crowd in French last year. And rightly so I would say. That always pissed me off at Dynamo Open Air that most of the times the ver few Dutch bands playing addressed the crowd in English, ffs, it is a Dutch festival with most people present from the Netherlands. Another thing I found annoying was that, unlike Wacken, Dynamo Open Air didn't give Dutch bands a chance to showcase in front of the large crowd.

As you know, I am not a fan of Wacken, but one thing I do admire is that they book quite a few German bands and give them the much needed exposure. A German fest should promote German bands, a French one French bands, A Dutch one Dutch etc etc,
corrupt - 08.01.2010 at 19:28  
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 08.01.2010 at 19:12

Written by corrupt on 08.01.2010 at 18:54


Haha! Good one. Yeah, I didn't mean Cynic, I meant Gojira. I was listening to Cynic earlier today and I'm known to make these associative mistakes. Good thing nobody else noticed


Aha Gojira now that makes sense if I remember correctly they did indeed address the crowd in French last year. And rightly so I would say. That always pissed me off at Dynamo Open Air that most of the times the ver few Dutch bands playing addressed the crowd in English, ffs, it is a Dutch festival with most people present from the Netherlands. Another thing I found annoying was that, unlike Wacken, Dynamo Open Air didn't give Dutch bands a chance to showcase in front of the large crowd.

As you know, I am not a fan of Wacken, but one thing I do admire is that they book quite a few German bands and give them the much needed exposure. A German fest should promote German bands, a French one French bands, A Dutch one Dutch etc etc,

That's my point, yes. But it seems we're alone with that.
I just wrote down the few Dutch bands I know (or that I know for being Dutch). And apart from Ayreon and Textures there's only symphonic bands in my mind. Epica, Autumn, After Forever, Within Temptation etc.. Seems like your country is most famous for the music you despise the most Maybe you should start your own festival and only promote local doom bands whose recording quality doesn't exceed that of the ordinary livingroom so the sound is as raw as possible.

Edit: Oh and of course it's forbidden to even use one word of english by penalty of an immediata ban from the grounds.
Marcel Hubregtse - 08.01.2010 at 19:36  
Written by corrupt on 08.01.2010 at 19:28

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 08.01.2010 at 19:12

Written by corrupt on 08.01.2010 at 18:54


Haha! Good one. Yeah, I didn't mean Cynic, I meant Gojira. I was listening to Cynic earlier today and I'm known to make these associative mistakes. Good thing nobody else noticed


Aha Gojira now that makes sense if I remember correctly they did indeed address the crowd in French last year. And rightly so I would say. That always pissed me off at Dynamo Open Air that most of the times the ver few Dutch bands playing addressed the crowd in English, ffs, it is a Dutch festival with most people present from the Netherlands. Another thing I found annoying was that, unlike Wacken, Dynamo Open Air didn't give Dutch bands a chance to showcase in front of the large crowd.

As you know, I am not a fan of Wacken, but one thing I do admire is that they book quite a few German bands and give them the much needed exposure. A German fest should promote German bands, a French one French bands, A Dutch one Dutch etc etc,

That's my point, yes. But it seems we're alone with that.
I just wrote down the few Dutch bands I know (or that I know for being Dutch). And apart from Ayreon and Textures there's only symphonic bands in my mind. Epica, Autumn, After Forever, Within Temptation etc.. Seems like your country is most famous for the music you despise the most


That's nowadays but of course we should be most famous for the late 80s early 90s death metal. Pestilence, Asphyx, Thanatos, Sempiternal Deathreign, Gorefest (although I find them to be either a borefest or a snorefest )
Pestilence and Asphyx have of course reformed and can now be joined by those other masters of old school death metal Hail Of Bullets.
Promonex - 09.01.2010 at 03:56  
Not to forget God Dethroned, Legion of the Damned/Occult, The Monolith Deathcult, Prostitute Disfigurement, Rompeprop, Severe Torture and Sinister. But yeah, first thing I associate with NL is Within Temptation, After Forever and Epica
corrupt - 15.01.2010 at 14:38  
Next "band": Metsatöll
corrupt - 18.01.2010 at 18:27  
Gojira confirmed. So there we go with a real band for a change
corrupt - 19.01.2010 at 17:52  
Next band: Eternal Legacy.
Valentin B - 20.01.2010 at 19:38  
Written by corrupt on 15.01.2010 at 14:38

Next "band": Metsatöll

they're not a real band?
Baz Anderson - 20.01.2010 at 19:43  
I thought the quotes were funny too. Metsatöll are alright.
corrupt - 20.01.2010 at 20:44  
Written by Baz Anderson on 20.01.2010 at 19:43

I thought the quotes were funny too. Metsatöll are alright.

The quotes serve as a means to subtly hint at my deeply rooted, well-established contempt for all folk metal.

(Also I hate generalization!)
Valentin B - 21.01.2010 at 16:29  
Written by corrupt on 20.01.2010 at 20:44

Written by Baz Anderson on 20.01.2010 at 19:43

I thought the quotes were funny too. Metsatöll are alright.

The quotes serve as a means to subtly hint at my deeply rooted, well-established contempt for all folk metal.

(Also I hate generalization!)

haha, i had a feeling you'd say that.. so you hate ALL folk metal? are you at least into the standard German bands almost everyone likes there like Subway and In Extremo?
corrupt - 21.01.2010 at 18:15  
Written by Valentin B on 21.01.2010 at 16:29

Written by corrupt on 20.01.2010 at 20:44

Written by Baz Anderson on 20.01.2010 at 19:43

I thought the quotes were funny too. Metsatöll are alright.

The quotes serve as a means to subtly hint at my deeply rooted, well-established contempt for all folk metal.

(Also I hate generalization!)

haha, i had a feeling you'd say that.. so you hate ALL folk metal? are you at least into the standard German bands almost everyone likes there like Subway and In Extremo?

The German bands you mentioned neither count as folk nor as metal. We're talking about the worst abomination of music ever created: Audible vomit. No real man plays bagpipes. And no band should need to rape violins like these do to give their music a faint hint of ...of what? Quality? Yes, because a violin is such a precious instrument, and any band using one is automatically so deep and emotional. Give me a guinea pig and a set of dissection instruments, maybe a fart-amplifier and I will show you folk metal. And don't get me started on bands using a lyre on stage that then emphasize how hard they really are (no really, they are obviously really hard) in any interview ever conducted.
I understand you speak quite a bit of German. So you at least have a feeling how ridiculously plain and shallow the lyrics of most of these idiotic sorry excuses for bands are. If they didn't sing in german, they'd never sell a single CD anywhere. Not for what they call music. The only reason there is to attract a german audience at the youngest possible age so that this audience gets used to being ear-raped and doesn realize the extreme dimension of simplicity and shallowness they're fed anymore when their minds start to develop and they turn into human beings.
We're talking about indoctrination here.

Seriously that should be punished.
Baz Anderson - 21.01.2010 at 18:21  
In Extremo were pretty awful. Subway To Sally were quite enjoyable to me.
Valentin B - 21.01.2010 at 18:45  
Written by corrupt on 21.01.2010 at 18:15

The German bands you mentioned neither count as folk nor as metal. We're talking about the worst abomination of music ever created: Audible vomit. No real man plays bagpipes. And no band should need to rape violins like these do to give their music a faint hint of ...of what? Quality? Yes, because a violin is such a precious instrument, and any band using one is automatically so deep and emotional. Give me a guinea pig and a set of dissection instruments, maybe a fart-amplifier and I will show you folk metal. And don't get me started on bands using a lyre on stage that then emphasize how hard they really are (no really, they are obviously really hard) in any interview ever conducted.
I understand you speak quite a bit of German. So you at least have a feeling how ridiculously plain and shallow the lyrics of most of these idiotic sorry excuses for bands are. If they didn't sing in german, they'd never sell a single CD anywhere. Not for what they call music. The only reason there is to attract a german audience at the youngest possible age so that this audience gets used to being ear-raped and doesn realize the extreme dimension of simplicity and shallowness they're fed anymore when their minds start to develop and they turn into human beings.
We're talking about indoctrination here.

Seriously that should be punished.

nice rant hahahahahaha so Bon Scott wasn't a real man by your reckoning also seems you see IE and StS as some kind of pop bands considering the absurd amount of people i've met there(not only at Wacken) who rave about StS and IE(you know, the groups of 3 girls each with the histrionic make-up, dyed black hair and ripped black pantyhose..) i can see what you're talking about..

for lyrics in languages outside of Romanan i don't care too much how cheesy they are, Manowar is my 5th favorite band after all haha (especially when not talking about English, but languages i don't know too good like German or something, yeah my German may be fun to read but let's face it: it's fucking crap!), so i don't really care for In Extremo's or Subway's lyrics(especially IE's Occitan/weird half french-half spanish songs), i do like Ave Maria and some other songs by IE(not the ones they played at WOA sadly), imo they did manage to turn a religious song into a good metal tune. kinda like the first part of "Revelations" by Maiden.

there IS a very real chance i won't be able to get there this year, due to the German job opportunity in the summer, but to be honest between working some shit job and Wacken, i'll take WOA any day of the calendar.

i'm curious if there is gonna be another big band announcement or this is the final line-up when it comes to headliners. i hope not, they already have a very solid line-up but they can (and should) make it KILLER. Rammstein would be the cherry on top imo. something for the people to say "omg they couldn't have possibly gotten a better string of headliners"
corrupt - 21.01.2010 at 19:01  
Written by Valentin B on 21.01.2010 at 18:45

nice rant hahahahahaha so Bon Scott wasn't a real man by your reckoning also seems you see IE and StS as some kind of pop bands considering the absurd amount of people i've met there(not only at Wacken) who rave about StS and IE(you know, the groups of 3 girls each with the histrionic make-up, dyed black hair and ripped black pantyhose..) i can see what you're talking about..

for lyrics in languages outside of Romanan i don't care too much how cheesy they are, Manowar is my 5th favorite band after all haha (especially when not talking about English, but languages i don't know too good like German or something, yeah my German may be fun to read but let's face it: it's fucking crap!), so i don't really care for In Extremo's or Subway's lyrics(especially IE's Occitan/weird half french-half spanish songs), i do like Ave Maria and some other songs by IE(not the ones they played at WOA sadly), imo they did manage to turn a religious song into a good metal tune. kinda like the first part of "Revelations" by Maiden.

there IS a very real chance i won't be able to get there this year, due to the German job opportunity in the summer, but to be honest between working some shit job and Wacken, i'll take WOA any day of the calendar.

i'm curious if there is gonna be another big band announcement or this is the final line-up when it comes to headliners. i hope not, they already have a very solid line-up but they can (and should) make it KILLER. Rammstein would be the cherry on top imo. something for the people to say "omg they couldn't have possibly gotten a better string of headliners"

I disagree. As stated numerous times before, Rammstein doesn't exactly fit into the german metal scene. Yes, most of us have or do still listen to them but at least speaking for myself and a number of friends, that is for entirely different reasons than we listen to metal for. There are big MTV festivals here where they are frequent flyers and there's a pretty well-established industrial scene too. The last thing I would want is to see Rammstein in Wacken. It just doesn't feel right. Plus it would not exactly add to the variety. There are way more interesting bands out there to help with that. There's a good chance for an Arcturus reunion and the woa guys had better keep a slot open there
Valentin B - 21.01.2010 at 19:10  
Written by corrupt on 21.01.2010 at 19:01

I disagree. As stated numerous times before, Rammstein doesn't exactly fit into the german metal scene. Yes, most of us have or do still listen to them but at least speaking for myself and a number of friends, that is for entirely different reasons than we listen to metal for. There are big MTV festivals here where they are frequent flyers and there's a pretty well-established industrial scene too. The last thing I would want is to see Rammstein in Wacken. It just doesn't feel right. Plus it would not exactly add to the variety. There are way more interesting bands out there to help with that. There's a good chance for an Arcturus reunion and the woa guys had better keep a slot open there

well, it's pretty weird since pretty much every metalhead here considers Rammstein as metal as can be... well, at least the ones who know "Ich Will" and MAYBE "Engel" too and say they're die hard fans which make up for 90% of people who have heard of them here i've yet to come across a REAL Rammstein fan in Romania who doesn't just know those songs by them. also 99% of the times it's girls who think like that, almost every conversation is like this:

me: so, you listen to rock and metal?
poser: yeah
me: what bands?
poser: Guns n Roses, Metallica, Bon Jovi, Scorpions, Rammstein
me: oooh, Rammstein and Scorpions, what's your favorite songs by them?
poser: uhm... Ich Will and Wind of Change
me: my hard-on has just subsided because of your stupidity
corrupt - 21.01.2010 at 20:02  
Written by Valentin B on 21.01.2010 at 19:10

well, it's pretty weird since pretty much every metalhead here considers Rammstein as metal as can be... well, at least the ones who know "Ich Will" and MAYBE "Engel" too and say they're die hard fans which make up for 90% of people who have heard of them here i've yet to come across a REAL Rammstein fan in Romania who doesn't just know those songs by them. also 99% of the times it's girls who think like that, almost every conversation is like this:

me: so, you listen to rock and metal?
poser: yeah
me: what bands?
poser: Guns n Roses, Metallica, Bon Jovi, Scorpions, Rammstein
me: oooh, Rammstein and Scorpions, what's your favorite songs by them?
poser: uhm... Ich Will and Wind of Change
me: my hard-on has just subsided because of your stupidity

And there you have the reason for my contempt for the german metal scene (or the worldwide one, I don't yet know) and german bands. I Germany you can, if I may simplify, break the scene down into two dominant groups of peole. One of those is pretty much the guy/girl you just described only their conception of metal reduces to the music of some or all of the following bands: In Extremo, Schandmaul, Subway to Sally, Marilyn Manson, Children Of Bodom, Metallica and a few other way too obvious numbers. While on the other hand they completely dismiss anything I'd call decent or deep as boring. Then there are the guys who were forced into metal by being outsiders at their school (or whatever) and the fact that many popular bands reflect upon exactly that experience, only turning it into a good thing. There's a behavior you can observe with many minorities (I'm also disgusted by the very same fact with about 90% of the Linux community), and that is what germans call 'Elitarismus'. I couldn't find an English word for that. It basically means that you think of yourself and the people like you as an elite because you think you differ from the masses in certain ways. For those guys the fact they have no friends (I'm simplifying!) is a good and more than that intentional thing. And for some reason this is usually combined with listening to metal. Again there are players as dominant as Children Of Bodom, Korn, Slipknot, and if you meet a guy who actually looked at the scene a bit maybe Dimmu Borgir and Immortal playing in this league.
And then, to close the circle there are all these German "folk metal" bands that just plain reap these people into their ranks while there are bands outside whose music and lyrics can make a grown man cry for being just so perfectly woven together, for lyrics so deep you can get lost inside and never find a way out again, for music that you actually have to work with to comprehend all of it, for the slight, almost inaudible melody here and there, carefully hidden under a massive wall of acoustic chaos, for all of those things you know.
And I don't even feel like elite myself. In fact I'd like to gather all of these kids in a huge hall and show them all this awesome music that is right at their hands which they'll never listen to because there's also In Extremo...
Valentin B - 22.01.2010 at 00:15  
Written by corrupt on 21.01.2010 at 20:02

And I don't even feel like elite myself. In fact I'd like to gather all of these kids in a huge hall and show them all this awesome music that is right at their hands which they'll never listen to because there's also In Extremo...


yeah i kinda get how you're feeling. i think of the amount of people who think Metallica is the greatest band in history and love all their albums (including that gigantic turd of an album released in 2003) but haven't heard other decent metal bands in their life, they only listen to Slipknot, System of a Down, Disturbed, Cradle of Filth perhaps(the amount of CoF fanbitches around here was off the charts a few years ago) maybe Nightwish(just Nemo to be more precise), Manson(Tainted Love) or Rammstein(Ich Will), and i want to play them some fucking RUNNING WILD so they can get an idea of what metal made without too much desire for cash in mind sounds.

i'm getting extremely off topic now but seriously, that band is the classic of the classics, there is no other band i've heard that sounds as classic 80s traditional metal as them, not even Priest or Maiden who helped define the genre itself. RW is out of this world.

btw i think the word you were looking for was "elitism" or "elitists"
corrupt - 01.02.2010 at 18:02  
Next band: Ill Niño.
Valentin B - 01.02.2010 at 18:10  
Written by corrupt on 01.02.2010 at 18:02

Next band: Ill Niño.

they self-confirmed on their myspace page ages ago
corrupt - 01.02.2010 at 18:11  
Written by Valentin B on 01.02.2010 at 18:10

Written by corrupt on 01.02.2010 at 18:02

Next band: Ill Niño.

they self-confirmed on their myspace page ages ago

Why didn't you add them then?
Valentin B - 01.02.2010 at 18:15  
Written by corrupt on 01.02.2010 at 18:11

Written by Valentin B on 01.02.2010 at 18:10

Written by corrupt on 01.02.2010 at 18:02

Next band: Ill Niño.

they self-confirmed on their myspace page ages ago

Why didn't you add them then?

because i don't think they're a very worthwhile band

are you secretly a fan?
Marcel Hubregtse - 01.02.2010 at 18:25  
Written by Valentin B on 01.02.2010 at 18:15


because i don't think they're a very worthwhile band



Yes, they are nu-metal but musically they are superior to most bands playing at Wacken.
corrupt - 01.02.2010 at 19:29  
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 01.02.2010 at 18:25

Written by Valentin B on 01.02.2010 at 18:15


because i don't think they're a very worthwhile band



Yes, they are nu-metal but musically they are superior to most bands playing at Wacken.


If I haven't heard it, it's news to me! Marcel, I might add your contempt for the WOA to the biggest drama category.
Marcel Hubregtse - 01.02.2010 at 19:34  
Written by corrupt on 01.02.2010 at 19:29

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 01.02.2010 at 18:25

Written by Valentin B on 01.02.2010 at 18:15


because i don't think they're a very worthwhile band



Yes, they are nu-metal but musically they are superior to most bands playing at Wacken.


If I haven't heard it, it's news to me! Marcel, I might add your contempt for the WOA to the biggest drama category.


If Ill Nino were to be announced for Hellfest I would also put them high up there. SO this has nothing to do with my contempt of all things Wacken. You people actually have no idea how low I hold Wacken. Like I said earlier the only good thing about Wacken is that they support local bands.
Promonex - 01.02.2010 at 21:08  
Nothing wrong with Ill Niño IMHO. Nice to see some quality nu metal bands still being alive after the hype has died down.
Baz Anderson - 02.02.2010 at 13:48  
Ill Niño were at the first metal show (of established bands, not local bands) I ever saw... along with Chimaira and Spineshank.
Promonex - 11.02.2010 at 05:10  
Two new confirmations: Smoke Blow (German punk) and Hanggai. And that latter one is quite, uh, interesting.
Valentin B - 11.02.2010 at 12:15  
So this is pretty much the final line-up when it comes to established bands?
Promonex - 19.02.2010 at 01:10  
Newest confirmation: The New Black. Have seen them at Summer Breeze and they totally rocked! Looking forward to seeing them again
Promonex - 23.02.2010 at 01:19  
New confirmation: Tarja
Valentin B - 25.02.2010 at 14:16  
Well this is weird, Snakebite was on this page for like 5 months now, and only now they appeared on Wacken's bands page as the metal battle winner of Germany
corrupt - 26.02.2010 at 22:01  
Written by Promonex on 23.02.2010 at 01:19

New confirmation: Tarja

Promonex - 02.03.2010 at 02:23  
Written by corrupt on 26.02.2010 at 22:01

Written by Promonex on 23.02.2010 at 01:19

New confirmation: Tarja



I guess the newest confirmation isn't all that bad?
Dr.TeM - 05.03.2010 at 23:10  
OMG Wacken where the Metal bands sing with around 70000 Metalheads ..Really hope to come
corrupt - 06.03.2010 at 11:18  
Written by Dr.TeM on 05.03.2010 at 23:10

OMG Wacken where the Metal bands sing with around 70000 Metalheads ..Really hope to come

Haha. A friend of mine actually cannot come because he'll be leaving for Syria for half a year soon
Valentin B - 08.03.2010 at 18:55  
Seems Fear Factory got confirmed, i heard rumors about them for a while now.
corrupt - 13.03.2010 at 11:15  
Next Band: Job For A Cowboy.
corrupt - 15.03.2010 at 15:49  
Next Band: Killing Machine.
corrupt - 16.03.2010 at 20:24  
Next Band: Lizzy Borden.
corrupt - 20.03.2010 at 17:29  
Next Band: Rotting Christ.
Promonex - 21.03.2010 at 12:50  
Sweet!
corrupt - 21.03.2010 at 23:07  
As if we didn't already have enough folk metal...

Next Band: Svartsot.
Marcel Hubregtse - 21.03.2010 at 23:08  
Written by corrupt on 21.03.2010 at 23:07

As if we didn't already have enough folk metal




Well, you do know folk metal is immensely hot in the live circuit recently, right? It seels out every single venue it is programmed in, no matter how crap the band is.
Valentin B - 21.03.2010 at 23:17  
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 21.03.2010 at 23:08

Written by corrupt on 21.03.2010 at 23:07

As if we didn't already have enough folk metal




Well, you do know folk metal is immensely hot in the live circuit recently, right? It seels out every single venue it is programmed in, no matter how crap the band is.

i'm pretty sure what you wanted to say was: OMG THIS FESTIVAL IS LIKE SO OVERRATED KILL THE ORGANIZERS NOW AND SAVE OUR BELOVED METAL GENRE FROM COMPLETE DESTRUCTION!!!
corrupt - 22.03.2010 at 01:02  
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 21.03.2010 at 23:08

Written by corrupt on 21.03.2010 at 23:07

As if we didn't already have enough folk metal




Well, you do know folk metal is immensely hot in the live circuit recently, right? It seels out every single venue it is programmed in, no matter how crap the band is.

I have come across that matter, yes. Seems the two of us are in agreement here. I'll certainly mark that day in my calendar
And as far as the whole folk metal thing goes, I don't think it would be half as annoying if it didn't become increasingly difficult to see a good band live and enjoy the whole concert without either a metalcore or a folk band opening. Or both, as in case of Kreator, Caliban and Eluveitie.
Abattoir - 24.03.2010 at 14:41  
Well some bad news for the those who had plans to see Primal Fear at Wacken...they have cancelled the concert and below you can read the official statement that they've posted at their official site.


Dear Metalheads, we are very sorry having to announce that Primal Fear will not play at this years Wacken Open Air festival. Due to an important private appointment, it is impossible for the band to appear. But both Primal Fear and The W:O:A Team wil ltry to make up for Wacken Open Air 2011.''

Your W:O:A Team & Primal Fear
corrupt - 26.03.2010 at 14:53  
Next band: Brutus.
corrupt - 28.03.2010 at 22:51  
It is almost too obvious. Marcel, if you read this, this is your chance

Today they confirmed Frei.Wild. Their latest worthless hype nobody cared for since 2001. Keep it up long enough, give them enough stage-appearance, maybe some airplay and eventually the people will surrender and start buying. If only to make it stop...
Promonex - 29.03.2010 at 15:39  
Written by corrupt on 28.03.2010 at 22:51

It is almost too obvious. Marcel, if you read this, this is your chance

Today they confirmed Frei.Wild. Their latest worthless hype nobody cared for since 2001. Keep it up long enough, give them enough stage-appearance, maybe some airplay and eventually the people will surrender and start buying. If only to make it stop...

Actually the hype is not only about Frei.Wild, but about any band associated with Böhse Onkelz. There even is a four day festival full of Onkelz worship and cover bands which attracted 10,000 visitors last year. And at the bar I work at people keep wishing Onkelz and similar bands, so that the boss even introduced an "Onkelz hour" on Saturday. I guess this is just a thing we normal people will never understand.

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