Nightwish - New Album In The Works
Nightwish keyboard player Tuomas Holopainen has announced the band is working on new material and will start recording a new album in October. In an update in the band's "Summer Camp diary" he writes:
"Almost exactly 4 years ago we gathered into an idyllic place in the small village of Sävi to rehearse and arrange what would later be called Dark Passion Play. It was such glorious and inspiring times that we decided to do something similar with the upcoming Nightwish album called...
So again we are here in the deepest countryside of Finland beginning to create a follower for DPP. It's just us guys for now, Anette will join the camp a bit later. We arrived yesterday and the reunion was celebrated with some water-skiing, bbq and Quilmes. I foresee the same trinity taking place more or less on a daily basis.
We just got the equipment and PA set up with the help of our legendary engineer/co-producer TeeCee Kinnunen and probably will start working with the songs in a couple of days. This campsite is so amazing we'll let that sauna of a rehearsal room wait in silence for a while, and just concentrate on chilling out and catching up. And raising the official NW camp - flag high into the pole.
I have 12 songs completed now, but am still working with some lyrics. It's been an immensely fruitful songwriting process, as well as very consuming and ponderous. But I feel more satisfied with the stuff than ever before. Don't know if it's a good sign or bad. To me the album sounds like a rollercoaster ride in a theme park designed by Neil Gaiman, Tim Burton and Salvador Dali. That's the best way I can put it at this point.
Like before, we will record a demo once the songs are arranged, to listen to and to perfect the material, and to give to Mr. Pip Williams so he can start with the orchestration process. The actual enter-the-studio-date is set for October 15th. Again, the London orchestra and choir will be there, as well as Mr. Troy Donockley playing a slightly bigger part this time. And loads of new elements 'n twists we haven't tried before!
So things are finally rolling. We'll keep you posted in written, as well as in visual form. Stay tuned for updates."
"Almost exactly 4 years ago we gathered into an idyllic place in the small village of Sävi to rehearse and arrange what would later be called Dark Passion Play. It was such glorious and inspiring times that we decided to do something similar with the upcoming Nightwish album called...
So again we are here in the deepest countryside of Finland beginning to create a follower for DPP. It's just us guys for now, Anette will join the camp a bit later. We arrived yesterday and the reunion was celebrated with some water-skiing, bbq and Quilmes. I foresee the same trinity taking place more or less on a daily basis.
We just got the equipment and PA set up with the help of our legendary engineer/co-producer TeeCee Kinnunen and probably will start working with the songs in a couple of days. This campsite is so amazing we'll let that sauna of a rehearsal room wait in silence for a while, and just concentrate on chilling out and catching up. And raising the official NW camp - flag high into the pole.
I have 12 songs completed now, but am still working with some lyrics. It's been an immensely fruitful songwriting process, as well as very consuming and ponderous. But I feel more satisfied with the stuff than ever before. Don't know if it's a good sign or bad. To me the album sounds like a rollercoaster ride in a theme park designed by Neil Gaiman, Tim Burton and Salvador Dali. That's the best way I can put it at this point.
Like before, we will record a demo once the songs are arranged, to listen to and to perfect the material, and to give to Mr. Pip Williams so he can start with the orchestration process. The actual enter-the-studio-date is set for October 15th. Again, the London orchestra and choir will be there, as well as Mr. Troy Donockley playing a slightly bigger part this time. And loads of new elements 'n twists we haven't tried before!
So things are finally rolling. We'll keep you posted in written, as well as in visual form. Stay tuned for updates."
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| corrupt With a lowercase c admin Posts: 3131  |
Written by Shadowcross on 17.07.2010 at 22:29 Because they have been huge fans of said bands' old work and get sadder and sadder seeing those bands destroy their own legacy by producing albums people expect from them instead of geniune art. Don't mistake me for Marcel. I do generally listen to other stuff today but I was a big fan of Nightwish around the time of Wishmaster.
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| Ellrohir Heaven Knight Posts: 8662  |
I know enough people, who were fans of NW around Wishmaster and still are fans of NW now...or at least they can pay some respect to them now, when they cannot personally adore them anymore...therefore i can honestly say, that anyone putting dirt on Nightwish today is nothing but a sad case of poseur
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| Ellrohir Heaven Knight Posts: 8662 |
Written by Guest on 18.07.2010 at 07:39 maybe not all five you want, but definitely three - "The Siren", "10th Man Down" and "Romanticide"...
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| Shadowcross The Summoner Posts: 481  |
Written by Ancient Ruin on 18.07.2010 at 10:44 That is what Tuomas said you retard... not me. You obviously didn't even read the news then you come here to flame. No album votes, no fave bands, recent sign-up = American loser. I agree with someone above.. "For The Heart I Once Had", could easily be the worst song in Nightwish history.. definitely one to skip.
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| corrupt With a lowercase c admin Posts: 3131 |
Quote:Written by Guest on 18.07.2010 at 13:34 Why do the songs have to be heavy? I miss the times of good lyrics and interesting structues. Blastbeats and orchestrations don't automatically make a song good.
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| SatyriconChick Posts: 248  |
Nice to see the trolls are out in droves...  I'm looking forward to what they come up with. Excited for the new release. 
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| farfaramir Posts: 128  |
Quote:Quote:Written by Guest on 18.07.2010 at 07:39 1º Amaranth is not exactly the filler. "Cadence of the Last Breath", Whoever Brings the Night, For The Hearth I Once Had. About the Overrated songs, I agree. 2º The difference is that For The Hearth I Once Had is just a pop song. It doesn't even fit in the spirit of the album, or Nightwish spirit. The ones you name are at least in the spirit of the album, or Nightwish spirit if you prefer. 3º Master Passion Greed is a good exception in the album, but it's not enough to make the album heavier. Neither can "The Poet and The Pendulum, you can't make an album of two good songs (well, maybe 4 or 5) and 8 songs that you will easily forget, that never happened to me before in a nightwish album.
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| 4look4rd The Sasquatch Posts: 834  |
Written by Irritable Ted on 18.07.2010 at 15:11 +1 I agree with most of what you say. I am also fed up with this Tarja vs. Annette debate. Both are very good vocalists, and I don't blame Annette for the shitty songs in DDP (which are very few), she did an amazing job in songs like The Poet and the Pendulum and Meadows of Heaven. Her live performance are very good and fresh (eventhough some songs do not sound as good with her singing style). Anyway, I don't think Nightwish would of have sounded any better if Tarja was still in the band (I love her voice though). The problem, in my humble opinion, is the the songwriting. Toumas has lost his originality, his music started to decay right after Wishmaster when they started to include way too many symphonic passages. At the moment Toumas seems like a Hans Zimmer wannabe, but even as an admirer he should have realized by now that no one will match the greatness of Mr. Zimmer. I started listening to Nightwish back in 1999, Angels Fall First was a really original album, and until today I still consider it as their best album (despite its flaws). I don't think Nightwish has ever put out a weak album, but their albums have progressively gotten worse over time (huge decline after Wishmaster). I would love if Toumas would simply go back to his roots or start a side project where he could start composing his pseudo-scores without degrading his main band. Nightwish has lost its uniqueness. They still manage to put out a few great songs here and there (I'm a big fan of all of their 10+ minutes songs for some reason, and really wish they had put "The Escapist" in DPP) but they have never managed to compose music as unique and fresh as they did in their first three albums.
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| RobotPolarBear Posts: 58  |
Tarja vs Anette debate =  Quote: Agreed. I don't mind Tuomas's attempts at being film-scorey, but they're costing Nightwish the strength of its songwriting (as you said).
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Written by Guest on 19.07.2010 at 00:02 ...and making boring music. My Winter Storm is a very boring album
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Written by Guest on 18.07.2010 at 23:59 Yep. Making Marko sing or not it's not what makes the difference. We still have "Dark Chest of Wonders" (Heavier than almost any song in DPP, except for MPG and some sections of The Poet and the Pendulum"), Wish I had an Angel (Maybe not the best song, but it's heavy anyway) and Planet Hell.
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| BudDa elite Posts: 887  |
Play it straight Nightwish. This is still the same news as before with alot of explicitly 'boring' details(PA systems and what-not). How about some concrete news..like a tentative title for the next album?!
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| RavenKing Posts: 1941  |
I guess I will never understand why this band gets so much attention. One of the most boring and pop-ish band on the metal scene. They stand for everything that is wrong with flower cheesemetal. I utterly disliked them at first listen and I still dislike them to this day. I hate Powermetal but I think I find this band more unworthy of attention than any other.
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| Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck elite Posts: 40071  |
Written by RavenKing on 21.07.2010 at 14:39 Nope that would be Sabaton (Read my Hellfest account on them)
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| Ellrohir Heaven Knight Posts: 8662 |
Written by RavenKing on 21.07.2010 at 14:39 and i was bind to metal thanks to them...without them i wouldnt know any other (and possibly better) metal band
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| Ellrohir Heaven Knight Posts: 8662 |
Noone cares about some Tarja in this topic
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