Written by opeth771 on 17.05.2011 at 04:35

Written by Valddan on 16.05.2011 at 23:56

You people don't seem to understand the difference between a crappy computer and a 32-bit SOFTWARE, again, SOFTWARE, limitation. If the plugins he's working with are 32-bit only, even if he has a freaking super computer with 999999999999 GB of RAM, he would still have the same (and I will say it again) SOFTWARE limitation, due the fact he can't use a 64 bit Operative system to "unlock" more RAM (the plugins are 32 bit only, remember?).

Don't get me wrong, all this plugin limitation sounds fishy to me as well, but most people just don't know what they are talking about.

Also,I don't feel like this "Time" will turn out a good as the first album. I just hope I'm wrong.

Hum dude... I know that but... Other bands DO record CDs while Wintersun has been on "RAM" trouble for years.... You can run 4GB on windows 7 32 bits.. And Windows 7 64bits costs around 115$, don't tell me he can't afford it or the label won't lend the money.. Besides, he could download it, who cares, nobody will know. What is he doing so special that needs such a powerful computer? I could probably build one with windows 7 64 bits, 16gb of ram and a nice I7 quad core processor for less than 2,000$, all that bs doesn't make any sense.

This is really starting to piss me off

Written by gid on 17.05.2011 at 09:12

Written by opeth771 on 17.05.2011 at 04:35

Written by Valddan on 16.05.2011 at 23:56

You people don't seem to understand the difference between a crappy computer and a 32-bit SOFTWARE, again, SOFTWARE, limitation. If the plugins he's working with are 32-bit only, even if he has a freaking super computer with 999999999999 GB of RAM, he would still have the same (and I will say it again) SOFTWARE limitation, due the fact he can't use a 64 bit Operative system to "unlock" more RAM (the plugins are 32 bit only, remember?).

Don't get me wrong, all this plugin limitation sounds fishy to me as well, but most people just don't know what they are talking about.

Also,I don't feel like this "Time" will turn out a good as the first album. I just hope I'm wrong.

Hum dude... I know that but... Other bands DO record CDs while Wintersun has been on "RAM" trouble for years.... You can run 4GB on windows 7 32 bits.. And Windows 7 64bits costs around 115$, don't tell me he can't afford it or the label won't lend the money.. Besides, he could download it, who cares, nobody will know. What is he doing so special that needs such a powerful computer? I could probably build one with windows 7 64 bits, 16gb of ram and a nice I7 quad core processor for less than 2,000$, all that bs doesn't make any sense.

This is really starting to piss me off

I don't think you're understanding the point. The plugins he wants to use are only available in 32 bit format. This means that even if he builds his own computer with 99999GB of RAM, the plugins will only use up to 4GB. It's got nothing to do with buying a 64 bit version of Windows or whatever.

Written by Justicelust on 17.05.2011 at 19:19

This is a nonsense excuse. Why aren't there any other band having computer problems??? Why Wintersun has?!

Written by gid on 17.05.2011 at 21:14

Okay, without trying to sound like I'm defending Jari, it's really not that unusual for a band to use hundreds of tracks per song. Nine Inch Nails did it over 10 years ago with The Fragile (although NIN managed fine with their equipment).

While these excuses might be technically correct, they're still awful excuses.

Written by evoola on 17.05.2011 at 22:14

Written by gid on 17.05.2011 at 21:14

Okay, without trying to sound like I'm defending Jari, it's really not that unusual for a band to use hundreds of tracks per song. Nine Inch Nails did it over 10 years ago with The Fragile (although NIN managed fine with their equipment).

While these excuses might be technically correct, they're still awful excuses.

I realize that in the studio they'll use a plethora of tracks but unfortunately that stuff is rarely reproduced on stage. Smashing Pumpkins did it on Siamese Dream and their live shows suck balls. They never sound anything like they do in the studio.

Written by Daggon on 16.05.2011 at 06:01

Written by DahliaRock on 16.05.2011 at 00:49

I mean, c'mon, even Devin's latest epic tackles wonderful massive layering shit and these kiddos still complain about 64-bit.. grow up!

BEST. QUOTE. EVER.

Written by psykometal on 16.05.2011 at 05:36

This sounds like a James Cameron project. "Yea we don't have the technology to properly record this right now so we're just going to wait 20 years til the technology is far superior to today and then we'll record it."

Written by gid on 17.05.2011 at 09:12

Written by opeth771 on 17.05.2011 at 04:35

Written by Valddan on 16.05.2011 at 23:56

You people don't seem to understand the difference between a crappy computer and a 32-bit SOFTWARE, again, SOFTWARE, limitation. If the plugins he's working with are 32-bit only, even if he has a freaking super computer with 999999999999 GB of RAM, he would still have the same (and I will say it again) SOFTWARE limitation, due the fact he can't use a 64 bit Operative system to "unlock" more RAM (the plugins are 32 bit only, remember?).

Don't get me wrong, all this plugin limitation sounds fishy to me as well, but most people just don't know what they are talking about.

Also,I don't feel like this "Time" will turn out a good as the first album. I just hope I'm wrong.

Hum dude... I know that but... Other bands DO record CDs while Wintersun has been on "RAM" trouble for years.... You can run 4GB on windows 7 32 bits.. And Windows 7 64bits costs around 115$, don't tell me he can't afford it or the label won't lend the money.. Besides, he could download it, who cares, nobody will know. What is he doing so special that needs such a powerful computer? I could probably build one with windows 7 64 bits, 16gb of ram and a nice I7 quad core processor for less than 2,000$, all that bs doesn't make any sense.

This is really starting to piss me off

I don't think you're understanding the point. The plugins he wants to use are only available in 32 bit format. This means that even if he builds his own computer with 99999GB of RAM, the plugins will only use up to 4GB. It's got nothing to do with buying a 64 bit version of Windows or whatever.

Written by Valddan on 19.05.2011 at 16:34

and most of the people didn't/don't understand it.

Written by Guest on 16.05.2011 at 09:12

I'm sure it will be a great album when it finally comes out. In the meantime I'm not going to be fuming and obsessing because a band I like is taking forever to release an album. There's other stuff to do, right? Make the most of your time and then make the most of Time.

Written by Swietowit11 on 20.05.2011 at 17:01

Written by Guest on 16.05.2011 at 09:12

I'm sure it will be a great album when it finally comes out. In the meantime I'm not going to be fuming and obsessing because a band I like is taking forever to release an album. There's other stuff to do, right? Make the most of your time and then make the most of Time.

Indeed. There have been three (about to be a fourth) Amorphis masterpieces in the time that Jari has been working on "Time", two (about to be a third) Insomnium masterpieces, and numerous other wonderful albums by other Finnish luminaries. Furthermore, none of them are keeping their fans waiting for years for output that is just as quality.