Norwegian black metal duo Darkthrone will be re-releasing on November 14th four demos on vinyl format under the name Sempiternal Past.

Sempiternal Past contains all four of Darkthrone's cult demo releases recorded in 1988-1989 (Land Of Frost, A New Dimension, Thulcandra, and Cromlech); now fully restored and remastered from the best tape sources available. Also included on this release are the tracks recorded at Oslo TV in 1989, along with a restored version of the rare song "God Of Disturbance And Friction". It will be available on limited double vinyl with gatefold sleeve, with the sleeve including band notes, plus rare images and photos.

Sempiternal Past tracklist and cover:

Side A
01. Land Of Frost
02. Winds Of Triton
03. Forest Of Darkness
04. Odyssey Of Freedom
05. Day Of The Dead

Side B
01. Intro
02. Snowfall
03. Eon
04. Thulcandra

Side C
01. Archipelago
02. The Watchtower
03. Accumulation Of Generalization
04. Sempiternal Past / Presence View Sepulchrality

Side D
01. Iconoclasm Sweeps Cappadocia
02. Soria Moria (Oslo TV 1989)
03. Eon / Thulcandra (Oslo TV 1989)
04. God Of Disturbance And Friction





Source: burningshed.com
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Posted: 18.10.2011 by Vombatus



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ANGEL REAPER - 20.10.2011 at 02:44  
Written by BitterCOld on 20.10.2011 at 02:37

If 'hipsters" are buying vinyl, hipsters are more valuable to the music industry and metal than metal fans who have 9,000 songs on their pc and eight compact disks on the shelves.

+1
i didnt say that digital songs should be an illegal one.The digital tracks should be bought like any other CD or good.someone here already wrote that bands profit more on digital downloads than printing vinyls (Troy, i believe ).So hipsters actually just help industry a little ,dont keep it alive.And when did art becoming a industry become a good thing?<-a philosophical question...
ANGEL REAPER - 20.10.2011 at 02:47  
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.10.2011 at 02:42

The reason why you see demos being re-released is because there is a demand for it. People want them on vinyl/cd whatever with proper artwork and liner notes on the process (both writing and recording) behind the songs. It's all part of the history of a band.

so you see why do i called that fetishism?
" People want them on vinyl/cd whatever with proper artwork and liner notes on the process (both writing and recording) behind the songs. It's all part of the history of a band."
i just consider it that way, i dont trying to divert people from demanding it,and buying it...do what ever do you like.
ANGEL REAPER - 20.10.2011 at 02:50  
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.10.2011 at 02:41

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 20.10.2011 at 02:35

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.10.2011 at 02:31

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 20.10.2011 at 02:28


Also this have nothing to do with the fuck that Drakthrone become greedy like every Second Wave band lately and that instead printing it on some wider spread medium ,they decided to print the demo stuff on one lets say "collectors holly grail" one.
RavenKing at least got what i meant to say.


Were they to print it on cd instead of limited vinyl (probably limited to 500 or 1000) you could call them greedy but not in this case, because now they limit it and the margin a band makes on vinyl is less than on cd

they could gave us for free ...Its demo recordings ."DEMO"!
I didnt get a single buck out of my demo recordings nor that i expect to.Thats just extra cash without real trouble for them.
I am not interested in their demo tapes and the vinyl/cd/whatever version of it so i just constant this as "repeating pattern " among many 2nd wave BM bands lately.


Demo's were recorded to SELL to consumers and send to record companies. So remastering them (which costs money) and releasing them (which also costs money) so of course they want money for it. Back in the day those demo's were only released on cassette which costs quite a bit of money (certainly a lot more than releasing a demo nowadays)
If you think that this re-release will make them any profits you really need to rethink how the music business works. If they are lucky they will break even on this and that's it.

that dont make them less greedy.
Marcel Hubregtse - 20.10.2011 at 02:50  
Since when is wanting to own something by a band on a physical carier a fetish? Wanting it as mp3/flac whatever is then as much of a fetish.
Marcel Hubregtse - 20.10.2011 at 02:52  
So a band should give away all their music for free? If they created something they have every right to ask money for it (or give it away and even lose money on it if they want to).
It seems that here you, the fan in general, are the greedy one by not wanting to pay for something a band created.
malaikat - 20.10.2011 at 02:54  
Written by ANGEL REAPER on 20.10.2011 at 02:28


man i dont give a fuck to be honest about vinyl,cd or semiconductors...
If you find pleasure in material possessing of audio mediums with band names on it than enjoy it.If you read all what i wrote here you will find that i consider vinyls outdated strictly in tech term and that making music collection of such mediums i call "nothing more than stamp collecting hobby".
Do i need material medium like cd for my music? Hell no! I have everything in digital form and dont give a damn fuck about " browsing through CD shop, buying a cd/vinyl, enjoying the cover art, the booklet, just listening to the album whilst reading the lyrics".Who gives a fuck how the box is painted ,as far as i am interested MUSIC IS THE FREAKING POINT OF ANY ALBUM ! I get why Marcel like vinyl -he is from generation that grew up with it and old habits die hard.I get why you like it because your dad have a shitload of them.I dont get only one thing : why you are trying to convince me something? I dont give a fuck! here laugh as much as you like...you "owned" me...but than again have you asked yourself this simple thing "Is the music thing that you seek when you buy it,or the package is what you seek ?"I like music,package (therefore medium on which its stored) is irrelevant to me.
Also this have nothing to do with the fuck that Drakthrone become greedy like every Second Wave band lately and that instead printing it on some wider spread medium ,they decided to print the demo stuff on one lets say "collectors holly grail" one.
RavenKing at least got what i meant to say.


So? If it's just a hobby, why does it bother you such?

And btw, how DO you listen to music when you do? Do you just stick a mp3 in your player and just go with it? And then go call other people "obsolete" because you're so "modern"?

Well, youngster, you are dead wrong. Yes, music is the main deal on the album, but it ain't the only deal. Do you appreciate the artwork? Because someone worked hard on that, and the band payed big amount of money for it to look the way it does (I'm not speaking about underground bands, obviously). Do you appreciate the booklet? Again, someone went through a lot of effort to give you such a thing - not to mention some albums which booklets are size of a small book. Do you appreciate the lyrics imprinted on the booklet? After all, lyrics are 50% of the musical expirience. Not to mention that some bands pull of some amazing lyrics.

What I want to say - you like your music the way it is. You just pop your songs on your mp3 and that's it. Some more dedicated music fans appreciate every bit of thing album offers - artwork, packaging, lyrics, everything. I mean, how can you listen to bands such as Mastodon or Deathspell Omega (or Death, which is in your favourites) without giving a shit for the visual look of the album or the lyrics? Those things matter to a lot of people. Btw, I'm in temptation to connect all this to your statement you once brought up in the SB that "progressive metal is boring" to you, which would maybe explain a thing or two about your listening habits in general, but I'll leave it alone.

Point is: you took your stance like vinyls aren't made at all, and like albums are sold without cover art or booklet whatsoever. What I want to say (again):
I'm sorry, but you're dillusional, dude. Marcel gives you the official statistic that vinyl sales are constantly rising, you respond with a rant against "fetisch and kitch collectors", like you're some sort of communist figthing the bourgeoisie. Further on, I point out that, despite of what you said, objective evidence point out that a) people are bying vinyl more and more and b) CD as a medium is dying, and yet again you take your thick-skulled stance.

Dude. Look around. Vinyls exist. More and more people are bying it. CD is dying off. People who enjoy the full album expirience aren't neccesarily "fetish collectors". You aren't trve and kvlt just because you hate richly decorated editions.

That is all. Sorry for being rude. /rant
ANGEL REAPER - 20.10.2011 at 02:59  
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.10.2011 at 02:52

So a band should give away all their music for free? If they created something they have every right to ask money for it (or give it away and even lose money on it if they want to).
It seems that here you, the fan in general, are the greedy one by not wanting to pay for something a band created.

no reed the few post back i answered that question
ANGEL REAPER - 20.10.2011 at 03:01  
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.10.2011 at 02:50

Since when is wanting to own something by a band on a physical carier a fetish? Wanting it as mp3/flac whatever is then as much of a fetish.

on philosophical level a fetish is even when you want to posses rarities . its not necessary a bad thing.(although these days it have really perverse meaning to a lot of people).
ANGEL REAPER - 20.10.2011 at 03:14  
Written by malaikat on 20.10.2011 at 02:54

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 20.10.2011 at 02:28


man i dont give a fuck to be honest about vinyl,cd or semiconductors...
If you find pleasure in material possessing of audio mediums with band names on it than enjoy it.If you read all what i wrote here you will find that i consider vinyls outdated strictly in tech term and that making music collection of such mediums i call "nothing more than stamp collecting hobby".
Do i need material medium like cd for my music? Hell no! I have everything in digital form and dont give a damn fuck about " browsing through CD shop, buying a cd/vinyl, enjoying the cover art, the booklet, just listening to the album whilst reading the lyrics".Who gives a fuck how the box is painted ,as far as i am interested MUSIC IS THE FREAKING POINT OF ANY ALBUM ! I get why Marcel like vinyl -he is from generation that grew up with it and old habits die hard.I get why you like it because your dad have a shitload of them.I dont get only one thing : why you are trying to convince me something? I dont give a fuck! here laugh as much as you like...you "owned" me...but than again have you asked yourself this simple thing "Is the music thing that you seek when you buy it,or the package is what you seek ?"I like music,package (therefore medium on which its stored) is irrelevant to me.
Also this have nothing to do with the fuck that Drakthrone become greedy like every Second Wave band lately and that instead printing it on some wider spread medium ,they decided to print the demo stuff on one lets say "collectors holly grail" one.
RavenKing at least got what i meant to say.


So? If it's just a hobby, why does it bother you such?

And btw, how DO you listen to music when you do? Do you just stick a mp3 in your player and just go with it? And then go call other people "obsolete" because you're so "modern"?

Well, youngster, you are dead wrong. Yes, music is the main deal on the album, but it ain't the only deal. Do you appreciate the artwork? Because someone worked hard on that, and the band payed big amount of money for it to look the way it does (I'm not speaking about underground bands, obviously). Do you appreciate the booklet? Again, someone went through a lot of effort to give you such a thing - not to mention some albums which booklets are size of a small book. Do you appreciate the lyrics imprinted on the booklet? After all, lyrics are 50% of the musical expirience. Not to mention that some bands pull of some amazing lyrics.

What I want to say - you like your music the way it is. You just pop your songs on your mp3 and that's it. Some more dedicated music fans appreciate every bit of thing album offers - artwork, packaging, lyrics, everything. I mean, how can you listen to bands such as Mastodon or Deathspell Omega (or Death, which is in your favourites) without giving a shit for the visual look of the album or the lyrics? Those things matter to a lot of people. Btw, I'm in temptation to connect all this to your statement you once brought up in the SB that "progressive metal is boring" to you, which would maybe explain a thing or two about your listening habits in general, but I'll leave it alone.

Point is: you took your stance like vinyls aren't made at all, and like albums are sold without cover art or booklet whatsoever. What I want to say (again):
I'm sorry, but you're dillusional, dude. Marcel gives you the official statistic that vinyl sales are constantly rising, you respond with a rant against "fetisch and kitch collectors", like you're some sort of communist figthing the bourgeoisie. Further on, I point out that, despite of what you said, objective evidence point out that a) people are bying vinyl more and more and b) CD as a medium is dying, and yet again you take your thick-skulled stance.

Dude. Look around. Vinyls exist. More and more people are bying it. CD is dying off. People who enjoy the full album expirience aren't neccesarily "fetish collectors". You aren't trve and kvlt just because you hate richly decorated editions.

That is all. Sorry for being rude. /rant

so what you will tech me how to listen albums?
well ,old fart,(at least i didnt hide my ages in my profile ...)
when i turn the mp3 player on i sink into music.Yes i listen it in my room,when its dark and carefully analyze everything i hear.I dont find joy on stacking a pile of CDs ,and NEVER EVER listen music when i am on the move .Trve,kvlt? what the fuck??!?! I dont like prog because it have no effect on me why i listen to it and i dont want to smoke a shit load of weed in order to understand it .boring was a joke with another MSer in SB!Does it bother me what other people do? not a single fuck was given for that...
So ,old fart,did you ever heard about a people commenting something ?Why do you feel the need to point out that i am wrong?
I was into discussion with Marcel about "vinyls or not" and you didnt even (probably ) read it all from the start...
So i do understand why do you defend vinyls so much.
malaikat - 20.10.2011 at 03:21  
Written by ANGEL REAPER on 20.10.2011 at 03:14


so what you will tech me how to listen albums?
well ,old fart,(at least i didnt hide my ages in my profile ...)
when i turn the mp3 player on i sink into music.Yes i listen it in my room,when its dark and carefully analyze everything i hear.I dont find joy on stacking a pile of CDs ,and NEVER EVER listen music when i am on the move .Trve,kvlt? what the fuck??!?! I dont like prog because it have no effect on me why i listen to it and i dont want to smoke a shit load of weed in order to understand it .boring was a joke with another MSer in SB!Does it bother me what other people do? not a single fuck was given for that...
So ,old fart,did you ever heard about a people commenting something ?Why do you feel the need to point out that i am wrong?
I was into discussion with Marcel about "vinyls or not" and you didnt even (probably ) read it all from the start...
So i do understand why do you defend vinyls so much.



"Old fart"? "Smoking a shit load of weed"? Why do YOU feel the need to point out that we are wrong in the first place?

Whatever the case is, I can now see that there is no reasoning with you, as you constantly refuse to take objective evidence in consideration and constantly change direction of the argument (vinyls - fetishism, fetishism - vinyls). Good night, sir.
Troy Killjoy - 20.10.2011 at 05:01  
Written by ANGEL REAPER on 20.10.2011 at 02:50
that dont make them less greedy.

No offense, but what a stupid thing to say.

Tell you what, go work as a telemarketer. Sit at your desk and try selling shit to people who don't want it. But don't complain when you don't get paid. In fact, don't complain for a year, maybe two.

Even better. Go work another job, maybe at a fast food joint, so you can put your own money from that job into a better desk at your telemarketing job. But never ask for money from your telemarketer boss. That would be greedy.
Troy Killjoy - 20.10.2011 at 05:03  
Written by ANGEL REAPER on 20.10.2011 at 02:44
someone here already wrote that bands profit more on digital downloads than printing vinyls

Digital downloads help the band more, but album sales help the label. Labels sign bands and help pay recording costs and some tour expenses and the like. It's not like one is necessarily better than the other.
Troy Killjoy - 20.10.2011 at 05:05  
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.10.2011 at 02:12
Jesus H. Christ, there are actually people like that around?

I don't own a turntable but I definitely have no issue with buying records. I like keeping them in as good condition as possible for my own sake.
ANGEL REAPER - 20.10.2011 at 10:54  
Written by Troy Killjoy on 20.10.2011 at 05:01

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 20.10.2011 at 02:50
that dont make them less greedy.

No offense, but what a stupid thing to say.

Tell you what, go work as a telemarketer. Sit at your desk and try selling shit to people who don't want it. But don't complain when you don't get paid. In fact, don't complain for a year, maybe two.

Even better. Go work another job, maybe at a fast food joint, so you can put your own money from that job into a better desk at your telemarketing job. But never ask for money from your telemarketer boss. That would be greedy.

that was joke man...
ANGEL REAPER - 20.10.2011 at 11:11  
Written by Troy Killjoy on 20.10.2011 at 05:03

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 20.10.2011 at 02:44
someone here already wrote that bands profit more on digital downloads than printing vinyls

Digital downloads help the band more, but album sales help the label. Labels sign bands and help pay recording costs and some tour expenses and the like. It's not like one is necessarily better than the other.

yes i understand what you want to say...and i agree ,
the point was, however,that i dont see pointy in making and buying vinyls.Marcel and You stated your opinions which differ from mine but also have sense and dont see the problem and definitely i'm not trying to convince you anything. The real problem lies in my fellow countryman who is desperately trying to change my opinion on this matter and sometimes just being rude saying that i know a shit about musics and that i am just another brain dead metalhead who know a shit about quality of sound,while failing to see that i based my statements on two things : purely tech approach on sound quality matter,and purely philosophical approach on collecting rare items.
So...Troy i believe that this post conclude this quite chaotic discussion which is not even the same as the topic which we should really discus.
Lit. - 20.10.2011 at 15:11  
Far be it from me to add fuel to the fire, but I agree with Angel. What point is there in buying records if you don't have any method of playing them?
Marcel Hubregtse - 20.10.2011 at 16:27  
Written by Lit. on 20.10.2011 at 15:11

Far be it from me to add fuel to the fire, but I agree with Angel. What point is there in buying records if you don't have any method of playing them?



I can't see the point in that either. It's like buying cd's and cassettes when you can't play them. It's only of use, imo, if you are saving up for a turntable so you can play them later on.
Marcel Hubregtse - 20.10.2011 at 16:31  
Written by RavenKing on 20.10.2011 at 02:44

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I don't know how it is in Europe but, here, I think I honestly don't know anybody who still owns a functional turntable.



what puzzles me about those people is why don't they buy a new turntable if they haven't got a functioning one? If their cd player breaks down I am sure they will buy a new cd player, same if their computer breaks down, so why not with a turntable? Yes, new turntables are still produced and sold, ones with with a usb-connection can even be found easiest. Then they can rip their vinyls on to their computers.
Mr. Doctor - 20.10.2011 at 16:50  
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 18.10.2011 at 22:40

Actually vinyl isn't an outdated medium at all. Cd's are becoming the outdated ones.


That scares me a little you know.... I really don't want cds to die. I like vinyls and all but I'm not really interested in buying them because I really really don't want to buy the same thing twice (and considering my OCD with cds... I would end up buying everything twice). I don't want to buy vinyls because there aren't any cds left and then I don'ät anything new to play in my discman (because I don't want a fucking mp3 player either).

Written by BitterCOld on 20.10.2011 at 02:37

If 'hipsters" are buying vinyl, hipsters are more valuable to the music industry and metal than metal fans who have 9,000 songs on their pc and eight compact disks on the shelves.

Jeez.... I have like... 15k songs in my computer.... and 300 cds. I suck XD
BitterCOld - 20.10.2011 at 20:02  
Written by Mr. Doctor on 20.10.2011 at 16:50

Jeez.... I have like... 15k songs in my computer.... and 300 cds. I suck XD


not a math major or anything, but 300 > 8. you are buying music, which is supporting the artists and the labels that invest the money into artists.
Mr. Doctor - 20.10.2011 at 20:28  
Written by BitterCOld on 20.10.2011 at 20:02

Written by Mr. Doctor on 20.10.2011 at 16:50

Jeez.... I have like... 15k songs in my computer.... and 300 cds. I suck XD


not a math major or anything, but 300 > 8. you are buying music, which is supporting the artists and the labels that invest the money into artists.


Hhahaha I know, my comment was mostly a joke. On a side note: This computer used to be my sister's as well, we share some bands and she has some cds I don't own so they are in my computer... There goes a portion as well XP.
Another part of the music from my pc are the cds I borrow from the public library... I still wonder if that's "ilegal download" or just a sort of "grey zone" since the library obviously gets the money to get new cds from taxes so in a way we are paying for them right ?
ANGEL REAPER - 20.10.2011 at 21:32  
Written by Mr. Doctor on 20.10.2011 at 20:28

Hhahaha I know, my comment was mostly a joke. On a side note: This computer used to be my sister's as well, we share some bands and she has some cds I don't own so they are in my computer... There goes a portion as well XP.
Another part of the music from my pc are the cds I borrow from the public library... I still wonder if that's "ilegal download" or just a sort of "grey zone" since the library obviously gets the money to get new cds from taxes so in a way we are paying for them right ?

so seriously you folks can rent a cd from a library ? here in my country that is impossible ...
Mr. Doctor - 20.10.2011 at 22:00  
Written by ANGEL REAPER on 20.10.2011 at 21:32

so seriously you folks can rent a cd from a library ? here in my country that is impossible ...


Yup! Just ask Valentin B who visited me a while ago.... He was very surprised as well. I'm not talking about one or two Iron Maiden albums. I'm talking about stuff from Mercyful Fate to Darkthrone, Black Sabbath to In flames, Nightwish to Nile or Entombed, Metallica to Opeth, etc... Basically well known metal bands. I was kind of surprised that I saw that they had one Burzum and one Mayhem cd, also they are very fast when it comes to get the latest cd. I think it was like just one week after its release that I saw the latest In Flames in their shelves ready to just borrow for 2 weeks max.
ANGEL REAPER - 20.10.2011 at 22:04  
Written by Mr. Doctor on 20.10.2011 at 22:00

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 20.10.2011 at 21:32

so seriously you folks can rent a cd from a library ? here in my country that is impossible ...


Yup! Just ask Valentin B who visited me a while ago.... He was very surprised as well. I'm not talking about one or two Iron Maiden albums. I'm talking about stuff from Mercyful Fate to Darkthrone, Black Sabbath to In flames, Nightwish to Nile or Entombed, Metallica to Opeth, etc... Basically well known metal bands. I was kind of surprised that I saw that they had one Burzum and one Mayhem cd, also they are very fast when it comes to get the latest cd. I think it was like just one week after its release that I saw the latest In Flames in their shelves ready to just borrow for 2 weeks max.

wow
Mr. Doctor - 20.10.2011 at 22:40  
Written by ANGEL REAPER on 20.10.2011 at 22:04

wow


Did I tell you that Sweden has some pretty damn hih taxes? That's the "downside" but fuck it, free cds.

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