Black Sabbath - Bill Ward Out Of The Reunion


Bill Ward posted a lengthy message onto his Facebook yesterday stating that he is unable to continue with the Black Sabbath album and reunion tour, until a "signable" contract is drawn up that "reflects some dignity and respect toward me as an original member of the band". This is his full message:

"Dear Sabbath Fans, Fellow Musicians and Interested Parties,

At this time, I would love nothing more than to be able to proceed with the Black Sabbath album and tour. However, I am unable to continue unless a "signable" contract is drawn up; a contract that reflects some dignity and respect toward me as an original member of the band. Last year, I worked diligently in good faith with Tony, Ozzy and Geezer. And on 11/11/11, again in good faith, I participated in the L.A. press conference. Several days ago, after nearly a year of trying to negotiate, another "unsignable" contract was handed to me.

Let me say that although this has put me in some kind of holding pattern, I am packed and ready to leave the U.S. for England. More importantly, I definitely want to play on the album, and I definitely want to tour with Black Sabbath.

Since the news of Tony's illness, and the understanding that the band would move production to the U.K., I've spent everyday getting to or living in a place of readiness to leave. That involves something of a task, and as I've tried to find out what's going on with the U.K. sessions, I've realized that I've been getting "the cold shoulder" (and, I might add, not for the first time). Feeling somewhat ostracized, my guess is as of today, I will know nothing of what's happening unless I sign "the unsignable contract."

The place I'm in feels lousy and lonely because as much as I want to play and participate, I also have to stand for something and not sign on. If I sign as-is, I stand to lose my rights, dignity and respectability as a rock musician. I believe in freedom and freedom of speech. I grew up in a hard rock/metal band. We stood for something then, and we played from the heart with honesty and sincerity. I am in the spirit of integrity, far from the corporate malady, I am real and honest, fair and compassionate.

If I'm replaced, I have to face you, the beloved Sabbath fans. I hope you will not hold me responsible for the failure of an original Black Sabbath lineup as promoted. Without fault finding, I want to assure everyone that my loyalty to Sabbath is intact.

So here I am. I lay my truth down before you. I'm good to go IF I get a "signable" contract. I don't want to let anyone down, especially Black Sabbath and all the Sabbath fans. You know I love you. It would be a sad day in Rock if this current situation fell to the desires of a few.

My position is not greed-driven. I'm not holding out for a "big piece" of the action (money) like some kind of blackmail deal. I'd like something that recognizes and is reflective of my contributions to the band, including the reunions that started fourteen years ago. After the last tour I vowed to never again sign on to an unreasonable contract. I want a contract that shows some respect to me and my family, a contract that will honor all that I've brought to Black Sabbath since its beginning.

That's the story so far.

Stay safe and stay strong.

I love every single one of you.

--Bill Ward"



A message has been posted on the Black Sabbath Facebook today in response:

"We were saddened to hear yesterday via Facebook that Bill declined publicly to participate in our current Black Sabbath plans...we have no choice but to continue recording without him although our door is always open... We are still in the UK with Tony. Writing and recording the new album and on a roll... See you at Download!!!

- Tony, Ozzy and Geezer"

Source: facebook.com
Band profile: Black Sabbath
 
Posted: 03.02.2012 by Baz Anderson


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06.02.2012 - 00:46
Milena
Learning To "X"
Written by The Shape 1973 on 05.02.2012 at 13:35

Compared to the reunion with RJD it will probably be really disappointing.

That's one of the things I regret - never seeing RJD live. If he were alive they would probably just continue with Heaven and Hell (well probably) and we wouldn't be hearing any of this shit.
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06.02.2012 - 20:25
The Shape 1973
Written by Milena on 06.02.2012 at 00:46

Written by The Shape 1973 on 05.02.2012 at 13:35

Compared to the reunion with RJD it will probably be really disappointing.

That's one of the things I regret - never seeing RJD live. If he were alive they would probably just continue with Heaven and Hell (well probably) and we wouldn't be hearing any of this shit.

I've been lucky enough to have seen him three times. Twice with Dio and once with Heaven And Hell. As far as I'm concerned he is/was the best, most popular and influential metal singer and an alround nice bloke. Can't say the same for Ozzy, drunken has been is more accurate.
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06.02.2012 - 20:31
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Written by The Shape 1973 on 06.02.2012 at 20:25

...and an alround nice bloke.


That actually wasn't the case. He was nice to journalists and fans, to a certain degree., but he was a majore asshole to most of his band mates.
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06.02.2012 - 20:39
The Shape 1973
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 06.02.2012 at 20:31

Written by The Shape 1973 on 06.02.2012 at 20:25

...and an alround nice bloke.


That actually wasn't the case. He was nice to journalists and fans, to a certain degree., but he was a majore asshole to most of his band mates.

I just tell it as I have seen it. He always seemed to be a very humble man on stage and took time to talk to his fans. I know that he was a perfectionist and very passionate about the quality of his music. Maybe that is why he was a little intolerant at times. I have heard some things he said that were negative about Vivian Campbell, something about Chicken soup I think, and that Craig Goldie couldn't write songs but was a brilliant guitarist.

I respected him and his music has given me years of pleasure and has steered the direction of what i listen to now.
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06.02.2012 - 20:40
Valentin B
Iconoclast
There's a certain mystique about the thought of seeing Sabbath live with all 4 original members still going at it after 43 years.

I would have liked to see Ward in this, but if they can't resolve the media bullshit whatever, let them get Appice, he was pretty good in Heaven and Hell. The truth is, Ward is imo the only original Sabbath member who doesn't have anything groundbreaking attached to his name: Ozzy had that chromatic and bluesy vocal style, Iommi had the downtuned heavy distorted guitar, Butler had complex and powerful bass lines, but there's something we need to face here.. Ward was by far the most expendable of the 4 guys, and (imo) the only member without which the sound wouldn't be all that different.

I saw Heaven and Hell 2 and a half years ago and I can guarantee the only way a show could go wrong would be if Ozzy misses "too many" notes if you know what I mean. I'm pretty sure if (god helping) Iommi's condition improves, then it's gonna be an absolutely epic show when it comes to instrumentation (especially if they get Appice on drums) and a few cringes here and there when Ozzy hits and misses those high notes.
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06.02.2012 - 20:56
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Written by Valentin B on 06.02.2012 at 20:40

The truth is, Ward is imo the only original Sabbath member who doesn't have anything groundbreaking attached to his name: Ozzy had that chromatic and bluesy vocal style, Iommi had the downtuned heavy distorted guitar, Butler had complex and powerful bass lines, but there's something we need to face here.. Ward was by far the most expendable of the 4 guys, and (imo) the only member without which the sound wouldn't be all that different.




Damn, you never really listened well to Ward's drumming which was both bluesy and jazzy at the same time. The sound of the band changed a lot after he left. Just have a normal listen to stuff before and after Ward and you'll hear it. If not, then you are certainly deaf
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Yesterday is dead and gone, tomorrow is out of sight
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07.02.2012 - 13:20
Cynic Metalhead
Atrocious Virgin
http://www.metalstorm.net/events/news_comments.php?news_id=15832

It gonna be the same. I am telling you all....
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09.02.2012 - 22:26
Robstar
That really sucks ... At the end is all about money that's a fact
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12.02.2012 - 16:59
s7mon
s7mon
If Bill's out, then please hire someone that actually had something to do with Sabbath in the past. Vinny Appice maybe?
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12.02.2012 - 22:28
JohnDoe
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 06.02.2012 at 20:56

Written by Valentin B on 06.02.2012 at 20:40

The truth is, Ward is imo the only original Sabbath member who doesn't have anything groundbreaking attached to his name: Ozzy had that chromatic and bluesy vocal style, Iommi had the downtuned heavy distorted guitar, Butler had complex and powerful bass lines, but there's something we need to face here.. Ward was by far the most expendable of the 4 guys, and (imo) the only member without which the sound wouldn't be all that different.




Damn, you never really listened well to Ward's drumming which was both bluesy and jazzy at the same time. The sound of the band changed a lot after he left. Just have a normal listen to stuff before and after Ward and you'll hear it. If not, then you are certainly deaf


Bill Ward is as important as everyone else in the classic line up. I agree with Marcel.
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17.02.2012 - 07:29
Cynic Metalhead
Atrocious Virgin
My dad is the one is who is very disappointed and is against this re-union. listen to my dad's /rant Saabaaaaths!
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