European education is better than Australian education. I've known many people who've finished year 12 yet can't read or write. In fact nearly half of all Australian adults are functionally illiterate.
Functionally illiterate means being unable to manage daily living and employment tasks that require reading skills beyond a basic level.
I think it's all relative. In the (understandably) much hated USSR great emphasis was placed on education and professionalism at work. Even after the actual collapse of the USSR, remnants of the educational system still remained and that's why all kids had to learn world history, literature, chemistry, physics and all those unnecessary things while the children in the "free world" could just play games... Imagine having to learn Pushkin's "Tatyana's letter" from "Onegin" by heart while preparing for a test about redox reactions, another test about trigonometric functions, another one about cellular structure and finding materials for a presentation about the history of South-Africa. And I actually remember a classmate asking the teacher "This is crazy? Do other kids in other countries also learn of languages and peoples such as the Selkups and Nenets?" and the teacher responding "Yes, of course they do!" Oh yeah... and we had to memorise every country and capital in geography... and that was the fun and easy part because we had to study plate tectonics and composition and different types of soil...
And then it comes as a shock when you discover that a Briton doesn't know who Jane Austen is because literature was not a compulsory subject in their school...
Of course, the fact that many received that education, doesn't mean that they appreciated it... we had three compulsory foreign languages but still many people have difficulties with English (and very poor command of the other two)... During the USSR all universities were free of charge and you could get as many diplomas as you wanted and get good scholarships if you showed potential but many people still preferred to become plumbers or drivers or to work in retail... It's probably because there's a certain percentage of the population who needs and wants pretty little and is actually happy knowing as little as they do...
I just believe that every country has their "proles" who think that Cambridge is situated in East Angular which is located somewhere in South America or Africa... Now the real problem is when the society doesn't create opportunities for their talented people... I'd rather like to have more tall poppies around than a mass of blunt pencils who can be abused by those in power...
Yeah it's the same over here. I think i know at least one person taking advantage of just about every kind of benefit, it's just too fuckin easy. Also no people sitting comfortable doing pointless art degrees and things
Now Melbourne is an example of fine Australian living.
2. If Victoria is the "place to be", why are there so many of those number plates up here.
3. Only if you like trams.
4. It's downwind from Sydney. Enough said.
Pick whichever one you like and return serve to the Sunshine State.
And I thought tourism was still ahead of mining as our main economic income?
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Now Melbourne is an example of fine Australian living.
(random Melbourne bashing)
Melbourne has great art galleries, great cultural events ala Comedy Festival and great wining and dining. It also has a far better live music scene than Sydney.
Some of us prefer culture over roasting in the Aussie sun and getting drunk.
Also people in Sydney are obnoxious. Only people that I've encountered that are as bad were some italians and even they were for the most part far more pleasant. Even the French are better than the Sydneysiders.
Problem in Australia is that many people don't chose to be even plumbers or builders (all who earn a lot of money by the way). They work in retail not through choice but rather through having no skills.
Many Australians chose to be nothing cause the system allows that.
From what I've read this has happened throughout the western world.
That was the case during the prosperous period of socialism in the USSR as well. Everyone just had to have a job. Whether you actually did anything useful at the office or in the factory or just drank beer was not relevant at all. You couldn't be fired either (the problems were just discussed at friendly briefings) and you always had a place to be because renting a flat from the state was pretty cheap (even buying one was a lot cheaper than now... in the sense that it didn't take 30 years to pay the mortgage...)
Either way, many things obviously went very wrong and now it's exactly the opposite... high rates of unemployment, prices are high and people are flocking to Finland, Norway, (previously Ireland) and Australia...
You say that plumbers and builders earn a lot... How are teachers treated? I mean, the ones that really know things... let's say history, foreign language without an English accent and so on... They now raised the minimum monthly salary for teachers to 800 euros in Estonia... That includes the taxes so imagine around 600 a month... The problem is that many teachers are not being offered full-time jobs and that reduces the final sum received... Also... if you're a young teacher, you won't get paid as much either... in the end, the country is facing a problem of having only elderly ladies working as teachers because young people (men) in particular prefer to go to Australia and Finland to pick strawberries instead of obtaining an education and preparing the next generations for life...
I personally worked at a private language school and taught Mandarin... my monthly salary was less than 100 euros... other teachers who were specialising in English and French were supposedly paid less (Mandarin was so exotic, after all) but none of us was doing it as a main job anyway... I know for sure one of the teachers was doing it as a money job to add something to the meagre pay check from the school...
Either way... let's say you get 600 euros... that doesn't actually leave one much here... you pay half (or more) on the rent, electricity, gas, transportation etc and if you're lucky, you might have a few hundred left so that you can get something to eat... forget about going out or travelling abroad... or getting your teeth fixed...
Now tell me... Could I afford a visit to a dentist without having to starve for the rest of the month if I somehow managed to find employment of any kind in Australia?
You still have to be careful with how you spend your money.
Thanks for the information. You're right about the money thing... It's the same here because loans seem to be rather popular... At least you get to see all kinds of ads enticing people to send a text message to get instant easy money... And many people are broke because they have to pay back at some point... and the sum is a lot larger than the temporary "easy" money they fell for in the beginning... On the other hand, many people just need the money for their essential necessities (dictated by the society, I think...)
I remembered a scene from a spoof about the local equivalent of bogans... one of them had had an accident and woke up from it as a normal and open-minded person which automatically made him abnormal for his friends... There was one scene where one of the friends was bragging about his new car...
He said that he'd got the money for it in the form of a loan meant especially to help young families in need. After having said that he was asked "That's lovely. But where are your wife and kid then? I see you spent the money on a fancy car but what about the young family part then? Are you living in that car with your wife and kid?"
"You ***** ******* *******! WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU? THE HELL DOES IT MATTER TO YOU HOW MY FAMILY IS DOING?! It's nonya business you ******* Seriously, I'm gonna break your ******* face right now! IT'S MY ******** CAR! YOU have no right to tell me what I do with the money I get!! COME HERE!"
Is this for real? This is just hilarious. I couldn't imagine living on the expense of my parents. But it seems that these people are used to having things their way. As for myself, I'm considering going to a driving school but the issue is that it's pretty complicated plus it's too expensive (I won't be buying a car anyway so I'd be paying around one month's salary for doing it for the sake of the ability itself). I think having a car is pointless anyway unless you live outside the city and/or have to take kids to kindergarten/school etc, but the society has made it so ridiculously indispensable. I just don't want to end up in a situation when moving to a "car-pampered" country I'd be refused jobs because I don't have a licence. I am fully aware that Australia is one of such places where people can't imagine a life without cars.
I can perfectly imagine a life without an iPhone as well... I use my Chinese Nokia for calling and listening to music and occasional text messaging and photographing... The hell do I need a phone for spending time in assbook? I know it's addictive... my colleagues who have got smartphones tell me that they couldn't go back from there any more... the habit of stroking that thing in your palm is too strong to be given up ever again...
When i lived in Melbourne i thought the public transport was amazing, and when i got a car it sucked so fucking bad. It also took me an hour to get to work some days.
Tallinn (where I live) allows its inhabitants to use the public transport free of charge. Since the quality has never been really good, it's fair enough that you don't have to pay for it. Many people, of course, were against it because it's too socialist, too populist, discriminates car owners and people from other towns who are residents or who take a ride here for work. Sure, it discriminates certain people but it's pretty obvious that if one pays his taxes to town X then he can't expect to benefit from privileges that town Y offers to those who pay their taxes to it. Of course, that means everyone was accusing the city council of alluring people from other cities to obtain an official inhabitant status and thus of raising the citiy's income artificially while draining the surroundig communities.
The best thing, though, was making trains free as well (within the city limits)... the neighbourhood where I go to work is just one train stop away from me and that saves me around an hour of commuting every day because previously I had to take a tram to the centre and from there a bus, effectively going around the town while the train provides a direct link...
Speaking bout cars again... it's a curse having one when you've got nowhere to park... and when you can't drink at gatherings because you have to stay sober...