Written by advent on 05.06.2011 at 20:18

So any one have a low hopes for the new album

Meh, keep your expectations low, then no disappointment like the last time.

Heh, yeah no expectations. The best way to do it.

Written by rekkuza- on 07.06.2011 at 05:34

Written by advent on 05.06.2011 at 20:18

So any one have a low hopes for the new album

Meh, keep your expectations low, then no disappointment like the last time.

You didn't like Watershed?? I thought it was a thousand times better than Ghost Reveries.

Dudes, the new record will be freaking amazing; it the same time it will also suck balls; and despite all that, it will be quite mediocre.

I promise.

I hope it's not anything like Damnation but I'm pretty sure it isn't. I think it will be really weird, as in 70's progressive/psychadelic, mixed with some really old-school metal riffing á la Sabbath. I've read that Mikael does some cool vocal stuff on the album, reaching new heights with his clean singing. If this is true and they've kept the weird stuff to a minimum I think I'll be most pleased.

Written by NyarlathoTim on 07.06.2011 at 14:01

Written by rekkuza- on 07.06.2011 at 05:34

Written by advent on 05.06.2011 at 20:18

So any one have a low hopes for the new album

Meh, keep your expectations low, then no disappointment like the last time.

You didn't like Watershed?? I thought it was a thousand times better than Ghost Reveries.

Well, to be honest, I was a little bit disappointed by the level of musicianship exhibited in Watershed compared to its predecessor. Watershed exudes a certain minimalism in its instrumental complexity, thereby putting more emphasis on the melodies and flow of the music, instead of technicalities. It is good music in its own way, but I certainly expected more from Opeth after Ghost Reveries and Damnation. I think, and I can't emphasize enough on the fact that music tastes are completely subjective, that in the aforementioned 2 albums, Opeth has woven intricate technical playing with aesthetically pleasing melodies. But in Watershed, the technical department left a lot to be desired. It is pretty music, I don't deny that. I listen to it very often. But I just expected more from Opeth. What do you think?

Written by rekkuza- on 08.06.2011 at 07:50

Well, to be honest, I was a little bit disappointed by the level of musicianship exhibited in Watershed compared to its predecessor. Watershed exudes a certain minimalism in its instrumental complexity, thereby putting more emphasis on the melodies and flow of the music, instead of technicalities. It is good music in its own way, but I certainly expected more from Opeth after Ghost Reveries and Damnation. I think, and I can't emphasize enough on the fact that music tastes are completely subjective, that in the aforementioned 2 albums, Opeth has woven intricate technical playing with aesthetically pleasing melodies. But in Watershed, the technical department left a lot to be desired. It is pretty music, I don't deny that. I listen to it very often. But I just expected more from Opeth. What do you think?

To me Opeth have never been about technicality. Opeth have always been about good although not commonplace songwriting. The music is quite progressive, and it was pretty much getting more so with each release. I never compared the technical element of Watershed to Ghost Reveries or Blackwater Park because, I guess, it has never been necessary. Watershed as it is for me might be Opeth's best album with amazing songs.

Written by rekkuza- on 08.06.2011 at 07:50

Well, to be honest, I was a little bit disappointed by the level of musicianship exhibited in Watershed compared to its predecessor. Watershed exudes a certain minimalism in its instrumental complexity, thereby putting more emphasis on the melodies and flow of the music, instead of technicalities. It is good music in its own way, but I certainly expected more from Opeth after Ghost Reveries and Damnation. I think, and I can't emphasize enough on the fact that music tastes are completely subjective, that in the aforementioned 2 albums, Opeth has woven intricate technical playing with aesthetically pleasing melodies. But in Watershed, the technical department left a lot to be desired. It is pretty music, I don't deny that. I listen to it very often. But I just expected more from Opeth. What do you think?

Ghost Reveries sounded... forced to me. Particularly the middle of the CD: Atonement, Harlequin Forest, and Hours of Wealth. There are vocal lines that don't quite fit into the music here and there. And I don't find as many memorable parts of that CD as I do with others. That being said, there are a few amazingly awesome songs on there. Especially the first and last tracks.

Watershed, on the other hand, flows better, as you said. All the songs are equally interesting and memorable. What also probably helped was that I wasn't expecting it to be so amazingly good after Ghost Reveries.

Opeth has never put out a bad album though, so I'm not worried for the next one.

All this worrying before the album is pointless anyway.

Written by JÄY on 05.06.2011 at 10:10

I like their sound on watershed (wth is a watershed?) the best....gloomier....hope they continue this.

A dictionary is a man's best friend

here from the Oxford english Dictionary:
noun
1 an area or ridge of land that separates waters flowing to different rivers, basins, or seas. an area or region drained by a river, river system, or other body of water.
2 an event or period marking a turning point in a situation:
these works were a watershed in the history of music

British: the time after which programmes that are regarded as unsuitable for children are broadcast on television.

Origin:
early 19th century: from water + shed in the sense 'ridge of high ground' (related to shed), suggested by German Wasserscheide

The end of days is drawing near, Marcel is posting in an Opeth thread!

Written by Daniell on 08.06.2011 at 19:24

The end of days is drawing near, Marcel is posting in an Opeth thread!

I really do like Opeth a lot up to and including Damnation/Deliverance

Ahah Marcel's love for Opeth is underestimated!

Written by BloodTears on 08.06.2011 at 21:49

Ahah Marcel's love for Opeth is underestimated!

Yep

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 08.06.2011 at 22:11

Written by BloodTears on 08.06.2011 at 21:49

Ahah Marcel's love for Opeth is underestimated!

Yep

heheh yeah I guess I underestimated it as well, I had the same reaction when I saw your comments on Xasthur related thread or when you told me you liked Reroute To Remain. For some weird reason I never thought you liked those things

I thni same applies for me... I really like Opeth up and including D/D

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 08.06.2011 at 19:41

Written by Daniell on 08.06.2011 at 19:24

The end of days is drawing near, Marcel is posting in an Opeth thread!

I really do like Opeth a lot up to and including Damnation/Deliverance

I knew there was some reason left in that doom-addled brain of yours

That new art has to be a joke right? I like the shout out to the 70 prog rockers but still guys.

I'm really looking forward to this new album. I loved Watershed, but it I'm hoping for the inclusion of more harsher vocals. Also, Watershed seemed to get off track every now and then.

Written by MeloDeathViking on 11.06.2011 at 03:41

I'm really looking forward to this new album. I loved Watershed, but it I'm hoping for the inclusion of more harsher vocals. Also, Watershed seemed to get off track every now and then.

Harsher vocals as in more growls? That appears to be off.

Written by BloodTears on 11.06.2011 at 20:07

Written by MeloDeathViking on 11.06.2011 at 03:41

I'm really looking forward to this new album. I loved Watershed, but it I'm hoping for the inclusion of more harsher vocals. Also, Watershed seemed to get off track every now and then.

Harsher vocals as in more growls? That appears to be off.

Yeah, growls is what I meant. If I remember correctly, only 3 of the 7 songs had growls. I think their strongest material is when they have both clean vocals and growls.

Oh dear, I love Akerfeldt's growls!

I hope they'll have at least one guitar solo on par with the ones in Windowpane.

Written by MeloDeathViking on 12.06.2011 at 07:44

Written by BloodTears on 11.06.2011 at 20:07

Written by MeloDeathViking on 11.06.2011 at 03:41

I'm really looking forward to this new album. I loved Watershed, but it I'm hoping for the inclusion of more harsher vocals. Also, Watershed seemed to get off track every now and then.

Harsher vocals as in more growls? That appears to be off.

Yeah, growls is what I meant. If I remember correctly, only 3 of the 7 songs had growls. I think their strongest material is when they have both clean vocals and growls.

I hope there will be less growls. Akerfeldt is such a talented vocalist, I'm sure he can find a way to sing more harshly than his clean vocals, and less growly at the same time.

Written by Daniell on 13.06.2011 at 17:53

Written by MeloDeathViking on 12.06.2011 at 07:44

Written by BloodTears on 11.06.2011 at 20:07

Written by MeloDeathViking on 11.06.2011 at 03:41

I'm really looking forward to this new album. I loved Watershed, but it I'm hoping for the inclusion of more harsher vocals. Also, Watershed seemed to get off track every now and then.

Harsher vocals as in more growls? That appears to be off.

Yeah, growls is what I meant. If I remember correctly, only 3 of the 7 songs had growls. I think their strongest material is when they have both clean vocals and growls.

I hope there will be less growls. Akerfeldt is such a talented vocalist, I'm sure he can find a way to sing more harshly than his clean vocals, and less growly at the same time.

I wouldn't mind hearing something that falls in the between. I just won't want all clean vocals again. He definitely has one of the best voices in the business, but I think that also includes his harsh vocals.

Mikael quote from Bonnaroo:

"there are a lot of different genres here yeah? its not very usual for a band like us here i guess"

Opeth... opening for Lil Wayne

I just read on Wikipedia that there will be no growls at all on the album. I really don't know what to think. This could either turn out to be a new Windowpane or maybe the most brilliant thing they've done.

Written by Warman on 28.06.2011 at 16:41

I just read on Wikipedia that there will be no growls at all on the album. I really don't know what to think. This could either turn out to be a new Windowpane or maybe the most brilliant thing they've done.

you back on MS? :O

btw Windowpane is actually brilliant.
I loved Watershed, despite the haters, and wouldn't mind another Damnation. I totally trust their ideas, they have still to do wrong.

Nah, they did wrong with Watershed too many wanking moments (still quite good on the wank-free songs)

Written by Elio on 28.06.2011 at 17:25

Written by Warman on 28.06.2011 at 16:41

I just read on Wikipedia that there will be no growls at all on the album. I really don't know what to think. This could either turn out to be a new Windowpane or maybe the most brilliant thing they've done.

you back on MS? :O

btw Windowpane is actually brilliant.
I loved Watershed, despite the haters, and wouldn't mind another Damnation. I totally trust their ideas, they have still to do wrong.

I of course meant Damnation, not Windowpane (which is a great song, of course). What I meant is that I do not want another Damnation, one is enough.

And I've always been here. Just haven't had the time to post anything the last year. My university studies have taken up all my time. Who knew that you had to learn the whole history of the world, when studying to be a teacher in History and Swedish?

Well, maybe Watershed is not among their very best albums, but would you consider it a bad album?

-Warman, you done with that mate?