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Posted by addiction on 22.04.2008 at 13:06
the last opeth thread reached the max of 500 posts....so this is the new one...:)
i've never started a topic before in about 4 years...but this is a good chance...:)
Opeth is a fantastic band, probably my favourite. i more or less like all their albums but i think i like blackwater park slightly more than the rest, maybe because it is the first one i ever listened to.
i am looking forwards to the new album and to see them live on the defenders of the faith tour in london in a few days!!!
anyway, you know the drill...discuss away....



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JCJen7

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  03.10.2011 at 09:24
^^someone stop the quoting train please^^

Ok, so I ordered the $55 tickets to an Opeth concert that is in about 2 weeks. It said it came with a signed copy of Heritage. I assumed that I would pick up the signed copy at the show, but then the CD randomly showed up at my house a couple days ago, with no signature. Anyone know anyting about how I am supposed to get the signatures that I paid a pretty penny for?
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  13.10.2011 at 17:10
Heritage is my favourite album by Opeth so far, I give a shit is some call it not metal, it's a fantastic METAL album influenced by 70s rock. Shame by the cover, though, it's horrible...
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  13.10.2011 at 18:18
Written by Lokomotiv on 13.10.2011 at 17:10

Heritage is my favourite album by Opeth so far, I give a shit is some call it not metal, it's a fantastic METAL album influenced by 70s rock. Shame by the cover, though, it's horrible...


Weird, for some reason I thought you wouldn't like it.
I personally dislike the record and will talk about the band as "opeth.2" from now on. Probably a 6 from me.
And yes... the artwork is fucking awful.
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  13.10.2011 at 18:33
Written by Mr. Doctor on 13.10.2011 at 18:18

Written by Lokomotiv on 13.10.2011 at 17:10

Heritage is my favourite album by Opeth so far, I give a shit is some call it not metal, it's a fantastic METAL album influenced by 70s rock. Shame by the cover, though, it's horrible...


Weird, for some reason I thought you wouldn't like it.
I personally dislike the record and will talk about the band as "opeth.2" from now on. Probably a 6 from me.
And yes... the artwork is fucking awful.


I'm not an Opeth fan, but this album somehow hooked me since the first listening
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  13.10.2011 at 18:53
Written by Lokomotiv on 13.10.2011 at 18:33

I'm not an Opeth fan, but this album somehow hooked me since the first listening


Oh I know that, I also remember that you posted sometimes that their best album for you was either Orchid or Morningrise, which I can't even begin to explain how superior are to this dissapointment of an album..
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  13.10.2011 at 19:01
Written by Mr. Doctor on 13.10.2011 at 18:53

Written by Lokomotiv on 13.10.2011 at 18:33

I'm not an Opeth fan, but this album somehow hooked me since the first listening


Oh I know that, I also remember that you posted sometimes that their best album for you was either Orchid or Morningrise, which I can't even begin to explain how superior are to this dissapointment of an album..


Sometimes it is a problem to differenciate from "the best" album to "one's favourite"... I mean, both Orchid and Morningrise are outstanding, they had resisted the passing of time and almost 20 years after their release are still considered a classic, while Heritage was just recently released, I hadn't listened to it more than 10 times and yes, I enjoy it a lot but don't get me wrong when I say that it's my favourite, I just received it as a gust of fresh air from a band that was progressively becoming pretty rancid, and even with all the respect I have for Opeth's first 3 albums, I had already enough of them, I don't feel like listening to them anymore, so when I say Heritage is my favourite I'm not saying it is the BEST (ask me that in 10 years), just that is the only Opeth album I'm currently ready to fully enjoy.
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  13.10.2011 at 19:05
Written by Lokomotiv on 13.10.2011 at 19:01

Sometimes it is a problem to differenciate from "the best" album to "one's favourite"... I mean, both Orchid and Morningrise are outstanding, they had resisted the passing of time and almost 20 years after their release are still considered a classic, while Heritage was just recently released, I hadn't listened to it more than 10 times and yes, I enjoy it a lot but don't get me wrong when I say that it's my favourite, I just received it as a gust of fresh air from a band that was progressively becoming pretty rancid, and even with all the respect I have for Opeth's first 3 albums, I had already enough of them, I don't feel like listening to them anymore, so when I say Heritage is my favourite I'm not saying it is the BEST (ask me that in 10 years), just that is the only Opeth album I'm currently ready to fully enjoy.


Well, that's a better explanation of your opinion than some people around here that go all "omg if you don't like the new album you are, like, super stuck in the past, like". You should have seen the album's thread. It was kind of a troll war at times.
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  15.10.2011 at 06:20
I tried listening to Opeth again 10 minutes ago or so. Started playing The Leper Affinity, thought it was cool for a minute, then I forgot it was playing for 4 minutes, until they switched into an acoustic part. It's well performed, the riffs are good, the acoustic parts are nice, and it's all so calm and inoffensive... Which isn't exactly a good thing. They would make great elevator music, and seem like they would function quite well for those times where you're feeling thoughtful but don't feel like thinking.
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  15.10.2011 at 09:25
Written by Void Eater on 15.10.2011 at 06:20

I tried listening to Opeth again 10 minutes ago or so. Started playing The Leper Affinity, thought it was cool for a minute, then I forgot it was playing for 4 minutes, until they switched into an acoustic part. It's well performed, the riffs are good, the acoustic parts are nice, and it's all so calm and inoffensive... Which isn't exactly a good thing. They would make great elevator music, and seem like they would function quite well for those times where you're feeling thoughtful but don't feel like thinking.

The Moor changed my opinion.
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  15.10.2011 at 14:01
Written by Void Eater on 15.10.2011 at 06:20

I tried listening to Opeth again 10 minutes ago or so. Started playing The Leper Affinity, thought it was cool for a minute, then I forgot it was playing for 4 minutes, until they switched into an acoustic part. It's well performed, the riffs are good, the acoustic parts are nice, and it's all so calm and inoffensive... Which isn't exactly a good thing. They would make great elevator music, and seem like they would function quite well for those times where you're feeling thoughtful but don't feel like thinking.

Sounds more like a lame excuse for being inattentive... those four minutes that you missed out on are quite intense and full of changing riffs, bridges, transitions, leads and a pretty good solo.

Don't get your point on elevator music and the "thoughtful" comment.
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  15.10.2011 at 19:18
A nice interview with Mikael: http://www.metal-army.com/?p=26680.
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  16.10.2011 at 02:38
Written by snake? snaaaake! on 15.10.2011 at 09:25

Written by Void Eater on 15.10.2011 at 06:20

I tried listening to Opeth again 10 minutes ago or so. Started playing The Leper Affinity, thought it was cool for a minute, then I forgot it was playing for 4 minutes, until they switched into an acoustic part. It's well performed, the riffs are good, the acoustic parts are nice, and it's all so calm and inoffensive... Which isn't exactly a good thing. They would make great elevator music, and seem like they would function quite well for those times where you're feeling thoughtful but don't feel like thinking.

The Moor changed my opinion.

That's the only song by them that I've fully enjoyed.
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  22.10.2011 at 23:22
I'm still in two minds about this disc. I have been listening to it again today. I think actually it starts off with a lot of promise and then gets more and more forgettable as the album progresses. I'm not one for Death Metal and could easily take or leave some of the earlier albums - but I did think that Watershed was a high point in the band's career. Would have loved this album to be as coherent as their previous effort... but I'm still not gonna call quits on it and will continue to give it a few more spins!
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  26.10.2011 at 14:48
Written by Void Eater on 15.10.2011 at 06:20

I tried listening to Opeth again 10 minutes ago or so. Started playing The Leper Affinity, thought it was cool for a minute, then I forgot it was playing for 4 minutes, until they switched into an acoustic part. It's well performed, the riffs are good, the acoustic parts are nice, and it's all so calm and inoffensive... Which isn't exactly a good thing. They would make great elevator music, and seem like they would function quite well for those times where you're feeling thoughtful but don't feel like thinking.


Opeth isn't easy to digest. "The Leper Affinity" that you mention is a long song consisting of many contrasting parts. Also, Opeth made a habit of writing songs that almost never use the verse-chorus-verse-bridge-chorus pattern. All that makes most of their music not too easy to approach. This isn't to say that you need to listen to the band more to appreciate it. If you don't like it after a few initial listens, you probably never will. No harm done - there are thousands of bands that you might like more, so there is no need to waste time listening to Opeth if you dislike their music initially. I olny mean to say that in order to fully appreciate the depth of Opeth, you need to give every song many listens, which, incidentally, completely excludes Opeth as elevator music...
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  28.11.2011 at 22:04
Written by Daniell on 26.10.2011 at 14:48

Written by Void Eater on 15.10.2011 at 06:20

I tried listening to Opeth again 10 minutes ago or so. Started playing The Leper Affinity, thought it was cool for a minute, then I forgot it was playing for 4 minutes, until they switched into an acoustic part. It's well performed, the riffs are good, the acoustic parts are nice, and it's all so calm and inoffensive... Which isn't exactly a good thing. They would make great elevator music, and seem like they would function quite well for those times where you're feeling thoughtful but don't feel like thinking.


Opeth isn't easy to digest. "The Leper Affinity" that you mention is a long song consisting of many contrasting parts. Also, Opeth made a habit of writing songs that almost never use the verse-chorus-verse-bridge-chorus pattern. All that makes most of their music not too easy to approach. This isn't to say that you need to listen to the band more to appreciate it. If you don't like it after a few initial listens, you probably never will. No harm done - there are thousands of bands that you might like more, so there is no need to waste time listening to Opeth if you dislike their music initially. I olny mean to say that in order to fully appreciate the depth of Opeth, you need to give every song many listens, which, incidentally, completely excludes Opeth as elevator music...


This describes my music relationship with opeth. I have friends that are die hard fans of this band and they always tell me that it's has a complex composing and it's not for the untrained ear. I've listened to it several times now i can't seem to enjoy it. They're obviously a good band because all sorts of people like them, it's not a trend or anything like that. At the same time i can say that it's not a band for everyone.
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  19.12.2011 at 17:57
Hey people. is opethforum.com inaccessible right now? or it's just me?
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  21.12.2011 at 15:29
Ah mike....WHY U NO GROWL ANYMORE
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  21.12.2011 at 19:56
Written by Libishomen on 21.12.2011 at 15:29
Ah mike....WHY U NO GROWL ANYMORE

I have a feeling you aren't the only Y U NO guy when it comes to his growls.
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  21.12.2011 at 21:47
Written by Troy Killjoy on 21.12.2011 at 19:56

I have a feeling you aren't the only Y U NO guy when it comes to his growls.

Doesn't look like a guy to me...
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  22.12.2011 at 17:07
Written by Troy Killjoy on 21.12.2011 at 19:56

Written by Libishomen on 21.12.2011 at 15:29
Ah mike....WHY U NO GROWL ANYMORE

I have a feeling you aren't the only Y U NO guy when it comes to his growls.


I'm not. Good old Mike destroyed the whole Opeth concept..
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  22.12.2011 at 19:53
Written by Libishomen on 22.12.2011 at 17:07
I'm not. Good old Mike destroyed the whole Opeth concept..

I was never a big fan of the band to begin with, but I can certainly understand fans' frustrations. Going from their extreme form of prog to a more progressive rock approach reminiscent of the '70s isn't exactly something I'd be stoked about. That, and losing the growls altogether - probably the only reason I bothered with Opeth in the first place.
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  23.12.2011 at 21:12
Written by Troy Killjoy on 22.12.2011 at 19:53

I was never a big fan of the band to begin with, but I can certainly understand fans' frustrations. Going from their extreme form of prog to a more progressive rock approach reminiscent of the '70s isn't exactly something I'd be stoked about. That, and losing the growls altogether - probably the only reason I bothered with Opeth in the first place.


I could live without MIkael's growls (even though they're the best growls ever) if only "Heritage" was any good. But it's not, it's merely average. Even such a musical genius as Mikael Akerfeldt can sometimes get lost on his endless search for new musical challenges. I do hope to hear some great Opeth music in the future.
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  23.12.2011 at 21:14
I don't get what about Akerfeldt is "genius" to be honest. :/
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  24.12.2011 at 09:54
I haven't bothered with Opeth a lot, but I can see why so many people are displeased with their new turns... When I gave a spin to Heritage, it sounded more like a 70's prog tribute album to me. It's okay to honor your heroes, but he could have come up with a separate project for that. And it's okay to take drastic turns, just not like "hey look at me I'm playing my fave music 'nough with them growls".

Mikael has a lovely voice, so it's not like it's not pleasant to hear it, but the combination of those growls and cleans is one of the things that made them famous back in the day and some people are pretty attached to that.
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  25.12.2011 at 11:50
Written by Troy Killjoy on 23.12.2011 at 21:14

I don't get what about Akerfeldt is "genius" to be honest. :/


If we're to believe the great Metal Storm guest reviews of truth, Akerfeldt is the single greatest musical genius to have lived (and still lives today).
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  25.12.2011 at 11:53
Written by vezzy on 25.12.2011 at 11:50
If we're to believe the great Metal Storm guest reviews of truth, Akerfeldt is the single greatest musical genius to have lived (and still lives today).

I hear he's better than Beethoven.
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  25.12.2011 at 11:57
Written by Troy Killjoy on 25.12.2011 at 11:53

Written by vezzy on 25.12.2011 at 11:50
If we're to believe the great Metal Storm guest reviews of truth, Akerfeldt is the single greatest musical genius to have lived (and still lives today).

I hear he's better than Beethoven.

Oh dat review...
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  25.12.2011 at 12:01
Written by Uldreth on 25.12.2011 at 11:57
Oh dat review...

Oh well, it provided comedic relief during The Massive Success April Fool's Day 2011 for Great Benefit of Glorious Website.

Props on the signature by the way. You get a batch of cookies. Home-made.

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  25.12.2011 at 12:08
Written by Troy Killjoy on 25.12.2011 at 12:01

<Cookiez>

Oh gawd, you just ruined my childhood memories of cookies
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  25.12.2011 at 12:09
Written by Uldreth on 25.12.2011 at 12:08
Oh gawd, you just ruined my childhood memories of cookies

Sorry, I fell asleep listening to Opeth while they were baking.
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