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Posted by addiction on 22.04.2008 at 13:06
the last opeth thread reached the max of 500 posts....so this is the new one...:)
i've never started a topic before in about 4 years...but this is a good chance...:)
Opeth is a fantastic band, probably my favourite. i more or less like all their albums but i think i like blackwater park slightly more than the rest, maybe because it is the first one i ever listened to.
i am looking forwards to the new album and to see them live on the defenders of the faith tour in london in a few days!!!
anyway, you know the drill...discuss away....



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vezzy
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  25.12.2011 at 12:11
Blopeth is the perfect baby lullaby. They should release a special compilation CD.
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  25.12.2011 at 12:13
Written by vezzy on 25.12.2011 at 12:11
Blopeth is the perfect baby lullaby. They should release a special compilation CD.

Like their entire discography in one box.
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Skandino

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  25.12.2011 at 14:24
Written by Troy Killjoy on 25.12.2011 at 12:09

Written by Uldreth on 25.12.2011 at 12:08
Oh gawd, you just ruined my childhood memories of cookies

Sorry, I fell asleep listening to Opeth while they were baking.


I love Opeth but that was hilarious
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  18.06.2012 at 01:51
Found this, pretty cool
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  18.06.2012 at 22:09
Written by InnerSelf on 18.06.2012 at 01:51

Found this, pretty cool


Oh, same guy that played Mastodon's Leviathan in its entirety. Thanks for sharing!
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  18.06.2012 at 23:33
Written by K†ulu on 18.06.2012 at 22:09

Written by InnerSelf on 18.06.2012 at 01:51

Found this, pretty cool


Oh, same guy that played Mastodon's Leviathan in its entirety. Thanks for sharing!

I wasn't aware of that, dude's got talent
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  19.06.2012 at 20:20
I find these piano covers really cool. I notice it works really well. I remember I spent some afternoons listening to In Flames' piano covers. Very entertaining.
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  26.06.2012 at 16:19
I read in the paper yesterday that Micke Åkerfeldt and Mastodon are planning some project together, anyone knows something more about this?
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  29.06.2012 at 11:27
Written by InnerSelf on 18.06.2012 at 01:51

Found this, pretty cool



He should do a cover of Silhouette.
InnerSelf
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  08.07.2012 at 03:05
You guys thought Heritage was just Mikael longing for his roots for a bit ? well, suck on this :s


For me, Watershed was absolutely amazing and I hoped that Opeth would build on that sound, that awesome balance between Prog, Death and the more experimental moments courtesy of me.Akerfeldt.
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Unhealer
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  08.07.2012 at 04:37
Good. I'm still hoping Opeth goes dubstep someday.
chronic-headache

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  19.07.2012 at 04:33
Thought opeth was pretty boring at first, but I though my arms, your hearse was okay. Then I bought on a blind whim damnation and ghost reveries, then took a break. Now getting into blackwater park and deliverance, and Im totally digging them now. Def. a band that takes time to love. Any recs on where to go next?
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  19.07.2012 at 04:47
Written by chronic-headache on 19.07.2012 at 04:33

Thought opeth was pretty boring at first, but I though my arms, your hearse was okay. Then I bought on a blind whim damnation and ghost reveries, then took a break. Now getting into blackwater park and deliverance, and Im totally digging them now. Def. a band that takes time to love. Any recs on where to go next?

Get Still Life and then work backwards through their discography. I'd avoid Heritage unless you're a fan of prog rock.
Jaeryd
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  05.09.2012 at 09:16
Written by InnerSelf on 18.06.2012 at 01:51

Found this, pretty cool


Holy shit, that guy plays some wicked piano there. That was excellent.
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haladflire65

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  08.09.2012 at 00:46
So I gave Opeth a listen because of their obvious popularity, and so far really liked The Drapery Falls and The Moor. Any suggestions for other songs I might dig? I've listened to a bit of Blackwater Park as well but found some sections of it a bit dull.
BloodTears
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  08.09.2012 at 19:39
Written by InnerSelf on 08.07.2012 at 03:05

You guys thought Heritage was just Mikael longing for his roots for a bit ? well, suck on this :s


As someone sang it before, so Sad But True...
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Jaeryd
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  08.09.2012 at 22:58
Written by haladflire65 on 08.09.2012 at 00:46

So I gave Opeth a listen because of their obvious popularity, and so far really liked The Drapery Falls and The Moor. Any suggestions for other songs I might dig? I've listened to a bit of Blackwater Park as well but found some sections of it a bit dull.


I love all they have to offer, but some especially awesome tracks are as follows:

Under the Weeping Moon
The Night and the Silent Water
When
The Amen Corner
Demon of the Fall
Godhead's Lament
Serenity Painted Death
Bleak
Blackwater Park
Deliverance
Closure
Ghost of Perdition
Beneath the Mire
Harlequin Forest
Heir Apparent
Hessian Peel
Hex Omega (this one sounds like you're in the middle of a hurricane, right in the eye of the storm, experiencing calm while everything around you is torn apart)

If you don't mind the prog-rock with the 70's vibe (Heritage) then you might also like "I Feel the Dark"

Anyway, those are a few of my favorite tracks.
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Thrashette

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  15.09.2012 at 17:54
I got so bored that I couldn't even finish Heritage when I first listened to it. I gave it another chance earlier this week and found it enjoyable. It's still a great album, just very different from their previous releases. I prefer their older material, but I can still appreciate Heritage.
BloodTears
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  16.09.2012 at 20:08
Written by Thrashette on 15.09.2012 at 17:54

I got so bored that I couldn't even finish Heritage when I first listened to it. I gave it another chance earlier this week and found it enjoyable. It's still a great album, just very different from their previous releases. I prefer their older material, but I can still appreciate Heritage.


Many people seem to react that way. It's really weird at first and then "it kinda makes sense". You also need a certain open mind, who can't be comparing it to their previous work because there is no comparison.
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  17.09.2012 at 09:43
Written by BloodTears on 16.09.2012 at 20:08

Written by Thrashette on 15.09.2012 at 17:54

I got so bored that I couldn't even finish Heritage when I first listened to it. I gave it another chance earlier this week and found it enjoyable. It's still a great album, just very different from their previous releases. I prefer their older material, but I can still appreciate Heritage.


Many people seem to react that way. It's really weird at first and then "it kinda makes sense". You also need a certain open mind, who can't be comparing it to their previous work because there is no comparison.


I've never had a problem with being open-minded, and I'm able to appreciate a lot of genres. I do listen to a lot of non-metal stuff as well. Additionally, Opeth is one of my favourite bands. Yet, no matter how hard I try, I can't, I simply can't feel anything positive about Heritage. It's so dead, devoid of feelings and emotions. It sounds like a clinical, experimental exercise in old prog re-creation. Very much calculated, with no passion involved. The only song that shows any kind of feelings is Folklore.
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BloodTears
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  17.09.2012 at 13:02
Quote:

I've never had a problem with being open-minded, and I'm able to appreciate a lot of genres. I do listen to a lot of non-metal stuff as well. Additionally, Opeth is one of my favourite bands. Yet, no matter how hard I try, I can't, I simply can't feel anything positive about Heritage. It's so dead, devoid of feelings and emotions. It sounds like a clinical, experimental exercise in old prog re-creation. Very much calculated, with no passion involved. The only song that shows any kind of feelings is Folklore.


I remember you saying that in some conversation about Opeth. Actually "Folklore" is one of my favourite songs on the album. Maybe it will grow on you with time? I started to appreciate it more after I saw them live and they played the new songs, for some reason it fitted with all the rest. It must be disappointing to you, especially if you love the band. I'm curious to see what they will do next and metal seems to be out of the picture.
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Sangre Sani

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  18.09.2012 at 17:01
There was a time I didn't like Opeth at all and I thought their music is boooooring and loooong....
Now I can say with clear concience that I was just stupid or deaf. I think they play that kind of music that one must grow up to really understand it and appreciate it. Maybe I just grew up to Opeth?
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  20.09.2012 at 00:39
Written by Sangre Sani on 18.09.2012 at 17:01

There was a time I didn't like Opeth at all and I thought their music is boooooring and loooong....
Now I can say with clear concience that I was just stupid or deaf. I think they play that kind of music that one must grow up to really understand it and appreciate it. Maybe I just grew up to Opeth?


nah I think you developed a sense of maturity in music, and realization that good music a lot of times requires longer tracks to build up the emotion, or rather, display the vast range of emotion (sound tone, tempo change, clean/growls - all relevant attributes found in opeth's music). Not to mention the actual music is pretty progressive, which requires you to train your ear before being able to have such sounds "sink in" without it causing headaches my opinion anyway, not being elitist (well, just a bit =\)
Ozman
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  20.09.2012 at 00:50
My God the post above mine has to be the most pretentious ever here on MS

Liking Opeth means having developed a sense of maturity in music and that progressive music is hard to get into?

My God first time I heard Opeth I eally liked it but years later it is boring to me as hell, nothing to do with so-called maturity or getting music or not. FFS I have been listening to metal from 1979 until now and everything has gone by my ears. And let me guarantee you not a single subgenre is hard to het or has to do wih maturity in music listening or training your ears.

And it is espcially funny coming from a 20-year-old who only got into this sort of music about 10-12 years at most
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mayoarm

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  20.09.2012 at 01:02
Written by Ozman on 20.09.2012 at 00:50

My God the post above mine has to be the most pretentious ever here on MS

Liking Opeth means having developed a sense of maturity in music and that progressive music is hard to get into?

My God first time I heard Opeth I eally liked it but years later it is boring to me as hell, nothing to do with so-called maturity or getting music or not. FFS I have been listening to metal from 1979 until now and everything has gone by my ears. And let me guarantee you not a single subgenre is hard to het or has to do wih maturity in music listening or training your ears.

And it is espcially funny coming from a 20-year-old who only got into this sort of music about 10-12 years at most


you're right, it was exaggerated. What I wrote, perhaps written in an exaggerated pretentious manner, is my experience. As you pointed out, I'm relatively young, so I might (and probably will) change my views regarding music some time in the future. I disagree, thought with your statement about how progressive music doesn't require "ear training" and some sort of "musical maturity". I don't see how anyone can enjoy progressive music fully without SOME knowledge of music theory, even if it's sub-conscience if that's possible (understanding musical elements without it being taught to you).

I'd appreciate it if you explain your argument rather than simply criticize my age next time, although it was a valid point.
Daniell
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  20.09.2012 at 14:54
You can understand music without being taught any theory about it. And it doesn't require any special effort from your subconsciousness. It's a simple like/dislke most of the time.

Perhaps in order to fully appreciate some albums, some prior musical experiance is handy. Like, for example, Opeth's latest shitpile, Heritage. It contains lots of references to various genres and time periods. But in this case it doesn't matter, because the album sucks balls
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  20.09.2012 at 16:31
Written by mayoarm on 20.09.2012 at 00:39

nah I think you developed a sense of maturity in music, and realization that good music a lot of times requires longer tracks to build up the emotion, or rather, display the vast range of emotion (sound tone, tempo change, clean/growls - all relevant attributes found in opeth's music). Not to mention the actual music is pretty progressive, which requires you to train your ear before being able to have such sounds "sink in" without it causing headaches my opinion anyway, not being elitist (well, just a bit =\)


I think the musical maturity thing is valid in a very personal point of view. You can't tell a guy "listen to this and this and this before trying progressive", if he checks it out and doesn't like it then probably, years later after listening to other things, his tastes will broaden a he will like it. But that'd be more of a personal taste development than "training yourself to listen to progressive music". It does sound fucking elitist when said that way jazz people do that all the time.

And regarding the musical theory knowledge, if you don't have it you look for other things in the music, that doesn't mean you necessarily won't enjoy it . Most of progressive listeners I know are actually musicians, so it could make sense if they looked for theory-related stuff in the music but it's definitely not a must. Just try to remember how you perceived music when you didn't have a single idea of what was going on.
I do think there are subgenres hard getting into though, I'll disagree with Marcel there.
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  20.09.2012 at 16:58
Written by mayoarm on 20.09.2012 at 01:02

I don't see how anyone can enjoy progressive music fully without SOME knowledge of music theory, even if it's sub-conscience if that's possible (understanding musical elements without it being taught to you).

I enjoyed prog the first time it was presented to me, and without any knowledge of musical theory, subconscious or otherwise. I wasn't a very good or patient listener back then either - if anything, I tried to grow an attention span so I could enjoy this music for longer periods of time uninterrupted. And I never got the people who said it's weird or whatever, to me it always had some natural flow and appeal. Sure it's a bit different from heavy and power metal, but so is every other genre of metal, particularly the extreme ones.

And I'm pretty sure there's loads of other people like me as well. Then there's the others who need a bit of time to get into the stuff, but it's like that with every genre of music - sometimes you need time, sometimes you don't. And progressive is one of those genres where the approximated time needed to get into it is blown way out of proportion because people started talking about how difficult it is to get into it for some reason. That's the reputation.
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  18.11.2012 at 17:15
Opeth played the first of their announced acoustic (not 100% acoustic, in fact) shows on Friday, looks like it was great:



And some nice covers:



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  19.11.2012 at 16:48
The acoustic version of Demon Of The Fall sounds pretty awesome. Definitely something I would like to cover while camping on the woods, being all necro and kvlt
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