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Germany, Wacken - Wacken Open Air 2009


Location: Germany, Wacken (Festivalgelände)
Date: 29 July 2009 - 01 August 2009
Website: wacken.com
Organizer: ICS Event Service

Tickets:

SOLD OUT!!


20 years! 20 fucking years! That's how long the Wacken Open Air exists already. And it has come a long way from a garden party with 800 guests and 6 bands to the biggest metal festival in the world with more than 75,000 visitors and close to 70 bands performing on four stages. Said stages have seen performances by nearly every important band in the world of metal as well as numerous underground acts, so expectations are quite high for this year's lineup. Already confirmed are several fan favorites from the previous editions, such as Saxon, Motörhead, Machine Head, In Flames and Doro who has announced a special Warlock show. Further highlights are the two hour farewell show of metal veterans Running Wild, who will show the young lads how pirate metal is really done, and the performance of recently reunited viking metal legends Einherjer. And as always the lineup will please metalheads of every age: the older folks will be delighted by the confirmations of Heaven And Hell and UFO while Bullet For My Valentine, Walls Of Jericho and Bring Me The Horizon represent the newest generation of metal(-related) music.

The namesake and host of the festival is the small town of Wacken in Northern Germany. For just short of a week the town's population skyrockets from a mere 2,000 souls and turns the village into the world's metal mecca. The town is located 10 km north of Itzehoe and 50 km north/west of Hamburg. There will be shuttle buses from the festival site to the train station in Itzehoe as well as to the airports in both Hamburg and Lübeck. For more info on getting there and away check the festival page here.

The festival is sold out since December already. If you haven't got your ticket yet, but want to go there nonetheless, you can circumvent the black marketing going on eBay and reduce the risk of acquiring fake tickets by using the ticket exchange in the official forum. In this exchange the Wacken staff supervises the ticket prices and acts as trust which means that the seller sends the ticket(s) to the staff who verifies the authenticity of the ticket(s) and reports it to the buyer. After the buyer has transferred the money to the seller, the Wacken staff will pass on the ticket(s) to the buyer. More information on this model can be found here (in German).

Headliners


DAY 1 (29.07)

W.E.T. Stage

Victims Of Madness 19:00 - 19:30
Bai Bang 20:00 - 20:45
Bon Scott 21:15 - 22:15
Onkel Tom 22:30 - 23:30
Mambo Kurt 00:00 - 01:00
Metal Karaoke 01:00 - 06:00

Beer Garden Stage

W:O:A Firefighters 20:00 - 21:00
The Smack Ballz 21:00 - 22:00

Medieval Stage

FEJD 20:00 - 21:00
Ragnaröek 22:00 - 23:00

DAY 2 (30.07)

Black Stage

Skyline 16:00 - 16:45
Schandmaul 17:00 - 18:00
Der W 18:30 - 19:45
Running Wild 20:15 - 22:00
Heaven And Hell 22:30 - 00:00

Party Stage

D-A-D 17:00 - 18:00
Anthrax 18:30 - 19:30
Secret Show 20:00 - 21:00
The BossHoss 21:30 - 22:30
Lacuna Coil 23:00 - 00:00

W.E.T. Stage

Metal Battle Finland 16:00 - 16:25
X-Plod (Metal Battle Romania) 16:40 - 17:05
Furion (Metal Battle Ex-SFRY Republics) 17:20 - 17:45
S.A.W. (Metal Battle China) 18:00 - 18:25
5th Avenue 18:45 - 19:25
The Waltons 19:50 - 20:30
Drone 21:00 - 21:45
Bloodwork 22:05 - 22:50
Grand Magus 23:10 - 00:00
Metal Karaoke / Metal Hammer Party 00:00 - 06:00

Beer Garden Stage

W:O:A Firefighters 16:00 - 17:00
The Smack Ballz 18:00 - 19:00
Mambo Kurt 19:30 - 20:30

Medieval Stage

TBA 16:00 - 17:00
Reincarnatus 18:00 - 19:00
Cumulo Nimbus 20:00 - 21:00

DAY 3 (31.07)

Black Stage

Vreid 11:00 - 11:40
Endstille 13:00 - 14:00
Walls Of Jericho 15:30 - 16:30
Airbourne 18:00 - 19:00
Bullet For My Valentine 20:30 - 21:30
In Flames 23:15 - 00:30
Amon Amarth 02:00 - 03:00

True Metal Stage

UFO 11:45 - 12:45
Gamma Ray 14:15 - 15:15
Nevermore 16:45 - 17:45
HammerFall 19:15 - 20:15
Motörhead 21:45 - 23:00
Doro 00:45 - 01:45

Party Stage

Suidakra 11:00 - 11:40
Retrospect 13:00 - 14:00
Tristania 15:30 - 16:30
DragonForce 18:00 - 19:00
Coheed & Cambria 20:30 - 21:30
Epica 23:15 - 00:15
ASP 02:00 - 03:00

W.E.T. Stage

Leave Scars (Metal Battle Belgium) 11:00 - 11:25
Reason To Kill (Metal Battle Netherlands) 11:45 - 12:10
Ade (Metal Battle Italy) 12:30 - 12:55
Insidead (Metal Battle Greece) 13:15 - 13:40
Scarred (Metal Battle Luxembourg) 14:00 - 14:25
Kielwater (Metal Battle Lithuania) 14:45 - 15:10
Irr (Metal Battle Norway) 15:30 - 15:55
Beneath (Metal Battle Iceland) 16:15 - 16:40
Silence Means Death (Metal Battle Brazil) 17:00 - 17:25
Callejon 17:45 - 18:25
Bring Me The Horizon 18:55 - 19:35
Whiplash 20:05 - 20:45
Nervecell 21:15 - 21:55
Insidious Disease 22:25 - 23:05
ETHS 23:35 - 00:15
Sarke 00:45 - 01:45
Pentagram [CHI] 02:15 - 03:00
Metal Karaoke 03:00 - 06:00

Beer Garden Stage

W:O:A Firefighters 11:00 - 12:00
The Smack Ballz 20:00 - 21:00
Mambo Kurt 22:00 - 23:00

Medieval Stage

TBA 11:00 - 12:00
Swashbuckle 20:00 - 21:00
Ingrimm 22:00 - 23:00

DAY 4 (01.08)

Black Stage

Einherjer 12:00 - 12:45
Cathedral 14:15 - 15:15
Heaven Shall Burn 16:45 - 17:45
In Extremo 19:15 - 20:15
Machine Head 21:45 - 22:45
Gwar 00:45 - 01:45

True Metal Stage

Rage 13:00 - 14:00
Testament 15:30 - 16:30
Axel Rudi Pell 18:00 - 19:00
Volbeat 20:30 - 21:30
Saxon 23:00 - 00:30
Subway To Sally 02:00 - 03:00

Party Stage

Napalm Death 12:00 - 12:45
TBA 14:15 - 15:15
Borknagar 16:45 - 17:45
Pain 19:15 - 20:15
Enslaved 21:45 - 22:45
Korpiklaani 00:45 - 01:45

W.E.T. Stage

None (Metal Battle Poland) 12:00 - 12:25
Cadaver Race (Metal Battle Austria) 12:45 - 13:10
A Fine Day To Exit (Metal Battle Switzerland) 13:30 - 13:55
Crysys (Metal Battle Spain) 14:15 - 14:40
T.A.N.K. (Metal Battle France) 15:00 - 15:25
Metal Battle Germany 15:45 - 16:10
Ferium (Metal Battle Israel) 16:30 - 16:55
Split Heaven (Metal Battle Mexico) 17:15 - 17:40
The Fading 18:00 - 18:30
Trouble 19:00 - 19:40
UK Subs 20:10 - 20:50
Engel 21:20 - 22:00
Turisas 22:30 - 23:10
TBA 23:40 - 00:20
Tracedawn 00:50 - 01:30
Torment 02:00 - 02:45
Metal Karaoke 03:00 - 06:00

Beer Garden Stage

W:O:A Firefighters 12:00 - 13:00
The Smack Ballz 19:00 - 20:00
Mambo Kurt 22:00 - 23:00

Medieval Stage

Adorned Brood 18:00 - 19:00
Rabenschrey 20:00 - 21:00
Feuerschwanz 22:00 - 23:00

Who was there?

Baz Anderson (UK) 100%
GT (Denmark) 100%
Promonex 100%
corrupt 100%
Valentin B (Czech Republic) 100%
buki of steel (Croatia) 100%
Infurnace (The Netherlands) 100%
Black Mass (UK) 100%
Maxx666 (USA) 100%
DanielViking (Finland) 100%
infernall (Romania) 100%
Overlord_PT (Portugal) 100%
.:Jux:. (Estonia) 100%
LeDruide (France) 100%
Skyum (Denmark) 100%
Krixiro (Mexico) 100%
THRASHTILDEATH (USA) 100%
elven (Mexico) 100%
Marcelo Hissa (Brazil) 100%
Rebel Monster (Denmark) 100%
Holy_Diver (The Netherlands) 100%
Gâsh (The Netherlands) 100%
Soulweeper (Denmark) 100%
Neoclis (Cyprus) 100%
BRJ Events (UK) 100%
Misanthrope (UAE) 100%
Dewil Rituale (Bulgaria) 100%
COBdeath666 (Portugal) 100%
Den Gode Hr. Kim (UK) 100%
By Demons Driven (Denmark) 100%
Fraja (Peru) 100%
Brodd (Denmark) 100%
Miquele 100%
Kawarai (Denmark) 100%
Ravendark (Estonia) 100%
Jonjy (Israel) 100%
Trust (Portugal) 100%
Grumble (The Netherlands) 100%
mantiviking (Spain) 100%
Izarus (Denmark) 100%
Caramelita (Finland) 100%
goshdra (Romania) 100%
Doomhammer 100%
wastedcorpse (Estonia) 100%
Xyvind (Spain) 100%
Fjorten (Denmark) 100%
Rot N' Troll (Finland) 100%
DieLaughing (Finland) 100%
ThePhilosopher (UK) 100%
iblis (Turkey) 100%
metaldread (UAE) 100%
Artem (Estonia) 100%
nihil (Turkey) 100%
simml 100%
squirmno9 (Cyprus) 100%
TheMaggotMaster (Israel) 100%
Vihtori Raivoisa (Finland) 100%
UncleD 100%
Vincent M (Israel) 100%
mgades (Denmark) 100%
BarracudaMalta (Malta) 100%
huntlus (Estonia) 100%
zmya (Croatia) 100%
Sautherom (Mexico) 100%
Dunkelgeist (Spain) 100%
Rooste (Estonia) 100%
MaeseOrtu (Spain) 100%
JustinOwaR (Australia) 100%
grecianearn (UK) 100%
ANArhia (Romania) 100%
kaoskrew (UK) 20%
Bloodfrozen (The Netherlands) 20%
acfromthekc44 (USA) 10%

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26.07.2009 - 15:40
Baz Anderson

Well Edguy or not, even though I like them I think I'll just not risk losing a good space and stick with Running Wild.

I've finally had a good look at the running order and have made a plan for myself. If things go according to plan, I should be seeing these bands:

Thursday

Schandmaul
Anthrax
Running Wild
Heaven & Hell

Friday

Gamma Ray
Nevermore
Dragonforce
Hammerfall
Whiplash
Motörhead
In Flames
Doro
Amon Amarth

Saturday

Einherjer
Rage
Kampfar
Testament
Borknagar
Axel Rudi Pell
In Extremo
Enslaved
Saxon
Korpiklaani
Subway To Sally
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26.07.2009 - 20:36
Promonex
Cathemeral
Btw, don't forget your trunks. Wacken also means free entry to the swimming pool, so you even got some program when you get up early (and you most likely will if the weather is hot). It also means free showers and proper toilets while you would have to pay for both if you stayed at the campground. And don't believe the Wacken audience just goes to the swimming pool for swimming - last year they even had a circle pit and some walls of death




And my plan will most likely look something like this:

Wednesday
Metal Storm meeting
Fejd
Watching Vale making a fool of himself

Thursday
Anthrax
Running Wild
Heaven & Hell

Friday
Vreid OR Suidakra
Tristania
Nevermore
DragonForce
Motörhead
Epica OR In Flames
Amon Amarth OR ASP

Saturday
Einherjer
Rage
Cathedral OR Kampfar
Testament
Borknagar OR Heaven Shall Burn
Adorned Brood
In Extremo
Volbeat
Enslaved
Gwar
Subway To Sally (mostly because I expect Stefan Raab as special guest)
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- The Mystery of Life, Vol. 841 Ch. 26
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26.07.2009 - 21:22
Baz Anderson

Oh yes, Subway To Sally is there. I totally missed them, I'll try and see them too.

So where is the swimming pool? I've never actually been there strangely.
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26.07.2009 - 21:34
Promonex
Cathemeral
Written by Baz Anderson on 26.07.2009 at 21:22

Oh yes, Subway To Sally is there. I totally missed them, I'll try and see them too.

So where is the swimming pool? I've never actually been there strangely.

Here. If you zoom out, you'll see a building with a red roof on Schenefelder Street. That's the big supermarket at the beginning of Wacken, next to it (the small black cube) the point where you get your press pass.
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26.07.2009 - 21:42
Baz Anderson

Written by Promonex on 26.07.2009 at 21:34

Here. If you zoom out, you'll see a building with a red roof on Schenefelder Street. That's the big supermarket at the beginning of Wacken, next to it (the small black cube) the point where you get your press pass.

That's not what the PDF of our press confirmations say for the check-in. From what I've found the press check-in this year has moved to the corner of Reselithweg and Am Twisselburg.

Here.
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26.07.2009 - 21:58
Promonex
Cathemeral
In that case I was talking about last year. Didn't know they moved. Good to know though.
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All life begins with Nu and ends with Nu... This is the truth! This is my belief! ...At least for now.
- The Mystery of Life, Vol. 841 Ch. 26
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26.07.2009 - 23:11
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The agreement for free swimming was cancelled last year. They charge everyone 2? now. So free showers and all is off
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27.07.2009 - 18:34
kaoskrew

Just remember there are two beer gardens so make sure you know which one you are meeting at looking at the PDF's.
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Kaos Krew Promotions
"Metal Music Facilitators"
Sponsors of Black Winter Day http://www.blackwinterday.co.uk
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27.07.2009 - 21:52
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Quote:

Dear Metalheads

Unfortunately, we have to inform you that despite the effort, Anthrax will not perform with John Bush at W:O:A. Due to this occasion minor adjustments regarding the running order have to be made. HEAVEN AND HELL will perform on the True Metal Stage subsequent to the Metal Hammer Awards. There will be a Secret Show on the Party-Stage at 6.00h pm followed by The Boss Hoss and Lacuna Coil. On Wednesday, 7.00h pm, an additional secret Show on the WET-Stage. Be curious who it is going to be.

Your
team W:O:A


There it is.
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27.07.2009 - 21:57
GT
Coffee!!
Too bad about Anthrax, but expected
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28.07.2009 - 12:47
Black Mass

Written by kaoskrew on 27.07.2009 at 18:34

Just remember there are two beer gardens so make sure you know which one you are meeting at looking at the PDF's.


So which one are we meeting at? Still 7pm on Wed night?
Last day at work today until 12 August and the day is f**king dragging!!! I can't wait to get out of here!
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29.07.2009 - 11:26
Baz Anderson

I'm just a few hours away from setting off... so hopefully I'll see some of you there!
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02.08.2009 - 13:44
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Well guys, It was a blast. I honestly had one of my best WOA's ever. And now I have a face on you people. It was a fun night meeting you all, even though I had to take off early (sorry again for that).

In a whole I've seen 27 bands this year and apart from passing out during the Nevermore show (a combination of a huge sunstroke and a crowdsurfer to the head, but I'm fine thank you. Been out like 5 minutes and then it was time for Dragonforce ) and a few sound problems they had at the party stage (Tristania anyone? Promonex?) the whole thing was just amazing. The Enslaved set last night was one of the most beautiful shows I've ever seen. Quote Grutle: "How many Vikings does it need to change a lightbulb? 1001. One to change the lightbulb and 1000 to invade England"
Now I need to recover from the weekend, get my voice back (I actually only have one pitch left) and unfortunately buff out a few new scratches my car recieved by certain alcohol-influenced subjects...

Looking forward to next year!
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04.08.2009 - 12:43
Promonex
Cathemeral
Written by corrupt on 02.08.2009 at 13:44

Well guys, It was a blast. I honestly had one of my best WOA's ever. And now I have a face on you people. It was a fun night meeting you all, even though I had to take off early (sorry again for that).

In a whole I've seen 27 bands this year and apart from passing out during the Nevermore show (a combination of a huge sunstroke and a crowdsurfer to the head, but I'm fine thank you. Been out like 5 minutes and then it was time for Dragonforce ) and a few sound problems they had at the party stage (Tristania anyone? Promonex?) the whole thing was just amazing. The Enslaved set last night was one of the most beautiful shows I've ever seen. Quote Grutle: "How many Vikings does it need to change a lightbulb? 1001. One to change the lightbulb and 1000 to invade England"
Now I need to recover from the weekend, get my voice back (I actually only have one pitch left) and unfortunately buff out a few new scratches my car recieved by certain alcohol-influenced subjects...

Looking forward to next year!

Amen to about everything you said. Except the passing out part. I only lost my earplugs in Nevermore's circle pit, but at least we didn't have any crowdsurfers. And I only managed to catch like 15 bands, and I'm glad Enslaved were one of them as they were absolutely divine! On a scale from 1 to 10 they'd get a 12 for scaring the shit out of me and lifting me up to total euphoria in a matter of split seconds. A show I will remember for quite a while and overall an awesome festival I won't forget that early either. See you next year, I suppose! Wednesday, 7 p.m., at the fountain of the beer garden
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All life begins with Nu and ends with Nu... This is the truth! This is my belief! ...At least for now.
- The Mystery of Life, Vol. 841 Ch. 26
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04.08.2009 - 12:47
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Written by Promonex on 04.08.2009 at 12:43

Amen to about everything you said. Except the passing out part. I only lost my earplugs in Nevermore's circle pit, but at least we didn't have any crowdsurfers. And I only managed to catch like 15 bands, and I'm glad Enslaved were one of them as they were absolutely divine! On a scale from 1 to 10 they'd get a 12 for scaring the shit out of me and lifting me up to total euphoria in a matter of split seconds. A show I will remember for quite a while and overall an awesome festival I won't forget that early either. See you next year, I suppose! Wednesday, 7 p.m., at the fountain of the beer garden

You bet! Already ordered my Ticket. And seens as Immortal is confirmed for next year already, I have a feeling we'll get another chance of making the very best of a festival that is slowly going down the drain.
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06.08.2009 - 21:10
Baz Anderson

Hahaha, I lost my hat in the Nevermore set!! Seems everyone lost something during that set.. consciousness, earplugs, hat...

Anyway! I am back and yeh - had a great time!!
Pictures will be online later this evening hopefully!
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06.08.2009 - 23:34
martsepp

Some photos from Wacken 2009:
bands - http://pilt.delfi.ee/album/137885
general - http://pilt.delfi.ee/album/137169/
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07.08.2009 - 01:20
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07.08.2009 - 22:05
Valentin B
Iconoclast
Written by corrupt on 02.08.2009 at 13:44

Well guys, It was a blast. I honestly had one of my best WOA's ever. And now I have a face on you people. It was a fun night meeting you all, even though I had to take off early (sorry again for that).

In a whole I've seen 27 bands this year and apart from passing out during the Nevermore show (a combination of a huge sunstroke and a crowdsurfer to the head, but I'm fine thank you. Been out like 5 minutes and then it was time for Dragonforce ) and a few sound problems they had at the party stage (Tristania anyone? Promonex?) the whole thing was just amazing. The Enslaved set last night was one of the most beautiful shows I've ever seen. Quote Grutle: "How many Vikings does it need to change a lightbulb? 1001. One to change the lightbulb and 1000 to invade England"
Now I need to recover from the weekend, get my voice back (I actually only have one pitch left) and unfortunately buff out a few new scratches my car recieved by certain alcohol-influenced subjects...

Looking forward to next year!

hell yeah i enjoyed it thoroughly too. couldn't meet up with you people after the first day, soooooooo many awesome bands!!

my festival top 3 gigs that i enjoyed:
3.Volbeat
2.Amon Amarth
1.Saxon (incredible, best show they could have ever put on)
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08.08.2009 - 14:38
Black Mass

Right...am finally back home in London after laying on the beach in Barcelona for 5 days recovering from Wacken. Had the most amazing time at Wacken this year and it was really cool to meet you guys (sorry I didnt stay long though).

I was in camp ground B - awesome location, close to everything except one very important thing....toilets! By Friday morning I was very f*cking sick of sleeping in a tent, but have to say I got more sleep than I thought I would. The 300 euro I spent on alcohol might have had something to do with that though. This was my 2nd Wacken and I plan on going to as many as possible! Highlights for me were Heaven and Hell, Motorhead, Machine Head, Nevermore, Saxon, and Testament AND I got on the Jager Perch Bar! Will load some photos soon. Missed out on the 2010 xmas tickets though
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18.08.2009 - 18:41
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Did anyone see Rezet? I wonder how they came across live.
I am really enjoying their brand of retro thrash (what I've heard of their upcoming album, that is)
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18.08.2009 - 19:04
Valentin B
Iconoclast
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 18.08.2009 at 18:41

Did anyone see Rezet? I wonder how they came across live.
I am really enjoying their brand of retro thrash (what I've heard of their upcoming album, that is)

haha, see, there's always a bunch of bands that you might enjoy at such festivals, plus going to fests is a great excuse to get shitfaced lol i didn't though because i wanted to catch so many bands it was ridiculous.
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20.08.2009 - 03:52
Promonex
Cathemeral
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 18.08.2009 at 18:41

Did anyone see Rezet? I wonder how they came across live.
I am really enjoying their brand of retro thrash (what I've heard of their upcoming album, that is)

They played on the part of the metal market you actually had to pay for to enter. I suppose there were some more showcases, strip shows and stuff, but I couldn't be bothered as there was more than enough action on the rest of the festival/camping area.
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- The Mystery of Life, Vol. 841 Ch. 26
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20.08.2009 - 13:10
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Written by Promonex on 20.08.2009 at 03:52


They played on the part of the metal market you actually had to pay for to enter.


You're kidding right? A part of the metal market you had to pay for to enter? Wacken must be the only festival in the world that does that... this really officially does make the Wacken organisation sell-out corporate whores. They really aren't into the music at all it seems they are just out to make as much money as possible (which they don't even use to get a great line-up together)
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Yesterday is dead and gone, tomorrow is out of sight
Dawn Crosby (r.i.p.)
05.04.1963 - 15.12.1996

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20.08.2009 - 13:33
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.08.2009 at 13:10

Written by Promonex on 20.08.2009 at 03:52


They played on the part of the metal market you actually had to pay for to enter.


You're kidding right? A part of the metal market you had to pay for to enter? Wacken must be the only festival in the world that does that... this really officially does make the Wacken organisation sell-out corporate whores. They really aren't into the music at all it seems they are just out to make as much money as possible (which they don't even use to get a great line-up together)

Hehe, there we go again. Although in this regard I do agree with you. They've been doing that for as long as I've been going there. You have to pay 2,-? to get in, recieve a cheap paper wristband and inside there's nothing more than more merchandisers to sell stuff and said mini stage no one ever cares about.
That aside, the fact that the WOA isn't exactly a non-profit organisation is not really a secret. You should see their german forum and all the people whining about it. But you can't satisfy anyone and forums do have a tendency to attract whiners. Whether you take part in all that commercial crap is then again your own choice. As long as they continue to offer the x-mas ticket for 20,- less every year I don't exactly have anything to complain about (though I did, long and detailed - in their forum ). You can still use the festival to discover new bands or see ones you wouldn't attend a regular show of. Show me another place where I can see 27 bands for 109,-?.
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20.08.2009 - 13:38
Baz Anderson

Written by corrupt on 20.08.2009 at 13:33


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Did you go and see Whiplash in the end?
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20.08.2009 - 13:39
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Written by corrupt on 20.08.2009 at 13:33

Show me another place where I can see 27 bands for 109,-?.


Hellfest, Graspop (although they might be a bit more expensive, not sure though), Waldrock, Summer Breeze, Party San, Maryland Deathfest, Metalcamp. Actually loads of festivals
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Yesterday is dead and gone, tomorrow is out of sight
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20.08.2009 - 13:42
corrupt
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.08.2009 at 13:39

Written by corrupt on 20.08.2009 at 13:33

Show me another place where I can see 27 bands for 109,-?.


Hellfest, Graspop (although they might be a bit more expensive, not sure though), Waldrock, Summer Breeze, Party San, Maryland Deathfest, Metalcamp. Actually loads of festivals

I meant that as "show me a place that is not a festival". And no festival is cheaper than the woa for me because I live no 50 km away from Wacken. Wherever else I go, I pay shitloads of extra money for fuel. Aaaaand I'm a university student which should speak for my monetary situation itself.
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20.08.2009 - 13:52
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Written by corrupt on 20.08.2009 at 13:42


I meant that as "show me a place that is not a festival".


Okay, I misinterpreted that part apparently. It is true one has to go to a festival to see that amount of bands for such a sum of money.

Btw, I have nothing agaianst people attending Wacken, what I can't stand about Wacken though is it's blatant down and out commercialism and people making it out to be the ultimate heaven for every metal fan, whereas not any festival is the ultimate for metalfans cause of the difference in preference in the sort of metal one listens to.
And what really annoys me is that most metallers nowadays think that Wacken was the first truly all metalfest on mainland Europe (or even the world according to some) where in fact a certain festival which started in Eindhoven (but now has collapsed unfortunately) predates Wacken by about 4 years. Even Waldrock predates Wacken by a couple of years (and they are still going strong and haven't missed an edition since their first one)

Btw Monsters of Rock at Castle Donnington even predates the Eindhoven one.
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21.08.2009 - 00:53
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.08.2009 at 13:52

Written by corrupt on 20.08.2009 at 13:42


I meant that as "show me a place that is not a festival".


Okay, I misinterpreted that part apparently. It is true one has to go to a festival to see that amount of bands for such a sum of money.

Btw, I have nothing agaianst people attending Wacken, what I can't stand about Wacken though is it's blatant down and out commercialism and people making it out to be the ultimate heaven for every metal fan, whereas not any festival is the ultimate for metalfans cause of the difference in preference in the sort of metal one listens to.
And what really annoys me is that most metallers nowadays think that Wacken was the first truly all metalfest on mainland Europe (or even the world according to some) where in fact a certain festival which started in Eindhoven (but now has collapsed unfortunately) predates Wacken by about 4 years. Even Waldrock predates Wacken by a couple of years (and they are still going strong and haven't missed an edition since their first one)

Btw Monsters of Rock at Castle Donnington even predates the Eindhoven one.

For a man in his 40's, you do care a lot about other people's thoughts and feelings. And you generalize a lot. From my experience (I'm 25 btw) a lot of the people you describe are from 14 to 18 years of age and just collect their first impressions of the metal world. I remember a time when I didn't even know there were other metal festivals than the WOA. Granted that's about 10 years ago, but I wouldn't have liked being judged by anyone like that back then. Unfortunately many people (I speak for Germany here) are attracted to metal because of it's esoteric reputation rather than a true interest in the music. For some people that may change. But I can't tell you how many guys I met, ranging from 15 to over 30 that told me they liked metal and when it came down to the facts there was only Lacuna Coil, Evanscence and Nightwish on the female and Amon Amarth, Soulfly/KoRn or <insert random *core band> on the male side. And the rest was textbook cliché. In fact I meet these people everyday. In subway trains, restaurants, parties, on campus, hell I even befriend a few of these guys. But I've come to an agreement with myself that I just listen to music for different reasons and should not worry about their motivation any more than I do about my own (I don't, which is the cool thing about it). And I certainly won't let these kids ruin anything for me I'd otherwise enjoy. And, be it as commercial as could be, that also includes the WOA. I have greater problems with a subgroup of the aforementioned that brings aggression and brutality to a festival. That is what will keep me from going to Wacken one day. Everything else remains my own choice.
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