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In light of their recent output: 'The Maniacal Vale' I thought it necessary to make a thread for the English Doomsters.
'The Maniacal Vale' will undoubtedly find its way to the top of many people's favourite albums of '08 (most likely mine included) but in all honestly I think it goes beyond that. I daresay it's become the representative Funeral Doom album altogether; it's pretty much perfect in every respect. Lasting an hour and 40 minutes one would think they'd become bored of it when in fact every second will seem as brilliant as the last, the track 'Caucus of Mind' being an interesting break from the doom being almost pure death metal (and fine death metal it is too). The entire album is both heart-achingly depressing and gloriously uplifting if that's not an oxymoron. Ah, I love how the UK is still killing the rest of the world where doom is concerned.
'Subconscious Dissolution into the Continuum' is pretty special too, that's all I've heard of their stuff but I'm guessing it's all quality.
'The Maniacal Vale' will undoubtedly find its way to the top of many people's favourite albums of '08 (most likely mine included) but in all honestly I think it goes beyond that. I daresay it's become the representative Funeral Doom album altogether; it's pretty much perfect in every respect. Lasting an hour and 40 minutes one would think they'd become bored of it when in fact every second will seem as brilliant as the last, the track 'Caucus of Mind' being an interesting break from the doom being almost pure death metal (and fine death metal it is too). The entire album is both heart-achingly depressing and gloriously uplifting if that's not an oxymoron. Ah, I love how the UK is still killing the rest of the world where doom is concerned.
'Subconscious Dissolution into the Continuum' is pretty special too, that's all I've heard of their stuff but I'm guessing it's all quality.
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| Lucas Mr. Noise Posts: 13427 From: The Netherlands  |
 yeah, I'm glad this happened. Now I never have to visit the Melodic metal forum again! Yey! Well, except for Trad. Doom and moderation purposes, I guess...Man, I just can't get over how awesome Esoteric's The Maniacal Vale is. I mean, it's getting ridiculous. Usually, after some time (months) I drop the fanboy-ism and just say "yeah, it's a masterpiece, be sure to check it if you dig xxx'. But with The Maniacal Vale, I'm still "omg!!!!!!!11111oneeoneone'.
---- SLUDGE. DOOM. DEATH. Wait, what?  "The reason I'm running for president is because I can't be Bruce Springsteen." - Barack Obama
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Account deleted Written by Lucas on 18.04.2010 at 00:07 Haha, this is exactly what I was thinking 
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| X-Ray Rod Skandino Posts: 18274 From: Sweden  |
The Maniacal Vale is indeed a masterpiece in a ridiculous high level. I believe that it's one of the albums I will always drol over it and I will probably always remember it. There's only one album that has the same effect and it is Acid Bath's debut. Both albums have done some HUGE impressions in my way of understanding music.
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| InnerSelf proofread free Posts: 2641 From: Germany  |
It had the same impression on me , and I do believe that it is realy hard for any other band to top this album and if I may say it is actually hard for the band itself to top The Maniacle Vale But I am crossing my fingers for their upcoming album
---- He who is not bold enough to be stared at from across the abyss is not bold enough to stare into it himself.
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| Dangerboner Lactation Cnslt Posts: 7261 From: USA  |
Written by Guest on 18.04.2010 at 13:55 I've been thinking about this as well. The only reason why I haven't made a poll is because there's much I haven't heard. Still, nothing can beat The Call of the Wretched Sea by Ahab. From what I've heard, I'd say The Maniacal Vale is the second greatest
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| BitterCOld The Ancient One Posts: 15250  |
While i listen to both releases by Ahab more than Esoteric (or Evoken), i would have to cast my vote for Maniacal Vale as being the king of the hill. it's just so monstrous an album.
---- get the fuck off my lawn. Beer Bug Virus Spotify Playlist crafted by Nikarg and I. Feel free to tune in and add some pertinent metal tunes!
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| InnerSelf proofread free Posts: 2641 From: Germany |
Ahab would win because it is much softer "if I may use the word soft  " on the ear than antthing Esoteric has ever done but I see Ahab amongst the very very best
---- He who is not bold enough to be stared at from across the abyss is not bold enough to stare into it himself.
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| Throne Dweller Posts: 159 From: Australia  |
My only beef with the Maniacal Vale is that it makes the rest of Esoteric's albums look like shit.
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| farmakon Whispering Gloom Posts: 59 From: Czech Republic  |
Written by Guest on 21.04.2010 at 14:21 The Pernicious Enigma is Esoteric's best album for me too. Only Worship's Last Vinyl Before Doomsday can beat this masterpiece. The Maniacal Vale is number 4 for me - behind Subconscious Dissolution... and Metamorphogenesis.
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| Rog-Mothoth Posts: 104 From: USA  |
This article hasnt had any circulation for a year and i would like to say that "Paragon of Dissonance" is AWESOME!!!  That is all. Discuss.....
---- Written by Guest on 25.08.2011 at 06:44
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| Troy Killjoy perfunctionist Posts: 21306 From: Canada  |
I think the lot of us are busy discussing it in the album thread. :s
---- "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something."
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| Rog-Mothoth Posts: 104 From: USA |
Written by Troy Killjoy on 20.11.2011 at 06:25 Well yea but i thought it would be nice to have a still forum topic reenergized if you will....damn im still laughing at Dangerboner's pic post
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| InnerSelf proofread free Posts: 2641 From: Germany |
I expected to listen to nothing but the new release from when I got it but the new BaN stole its light, I still have to give it a proper listen
---- He who is not bold enough to be stared at from across the abyss is not bold enough to stare into it himself.
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| Rog-Mothoth Posts: 104 From: USA |
I discovered this site (thanks to Meshugga's FB post) and would this drink fit Esoteric well or even taste good? http://drinkify.org/esoteric
---- Written by Guest on 25.08.2011 at 06:44
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| Troy Killjoy perfunctionist Posts: 21306 From: Canada |
Not that I'm a boozer, but I imagine something like absinth(e) (I forget whether the real one has the "e" or not) would go well with Esoteric.
---- "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something."
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| Rog-Mothoth Posts: 104 From: USA |
Well i didnt think of the drink of course since if im mixing drinks at 15 ive got some serious problems
---- Written by Guest on 25.08.2011 at 06:44
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| Troy Killjoy perfunctionist Posts: 21306 From: Canada |
Pff, the guys in Esoteric have probably been mixing drinks since their early teens. How else do you explain their uncanny ability to create such psychedelic music?
---- "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something."
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| Lucas Mr. Noise Posts: 13427 From: The Netherlands |
I received the album today. I haven't checked out any of the available samples. Only listened to the first disc so far, but it sounds fine. Can't wait for the inevitable sunday hangover to fully dive into it.
---- SLUDGE. DOOM. DEATH. Wait, what? "The reason I'm running for president is because I can't be Bruce Springsteen." - Barack Obama
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| Candlemass Defaeco Posts: 828 From: Israel  |
The new album sounds promising on the first listen. Tho I'm not sure about the quality of the songwriting (distinctiveness).
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| Troy Killjoy perfunctionist Posts: 21306 From: Canada |
Written by Candlemass on 10.12.2011 at 15:26 What is it about the album that you don't find distinctive?
---- "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something."
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| Candlemass Defaeco Posts: 828 From: Israel |
Written by Troy Killjoy on 10.12.2011 at 20:04 The songs you mean. I find it hard to find a distinctive quality in each song, they still didn't hit roots with me.
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| Troy Killjoy perfunctionist Posts: 21306 From: Canada |
Written by Candlemass on 10.12.2011 at 20:15 I've never considered Esoteric a band to judge based on a song-by-song analysis. They're more of an "album" band, in that the overall product is better judged as a sum rather than parts.
---- "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something."
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| X-Ray Rod Skandino Posts: 18274 From: Sweden |
Written by Troy Killjoy on 10.12.2011 at 20:23 Just like Grindcore! Yeah a bit offtopic but it's not every day that you can compare a funeral doom band with grindcore.
---- Written by BloodTears on 19.08.2011 at 18:29 Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49
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| Troy Killjoy perfunctionist Posts: 21306 From: Canada |
Written by X-Ray Rod on 10.12.2011 at 20:31 I think conceptually they are actually very easy to compare - sometimes in terms of similarities, other times in terms of differences. Both genres have close ties on the same and opposite ends of the metal spectrum.
---- "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something."
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| Savopipo Posts: 486 From: Sweden  |
Grinddoom?
---- Check Tystnad out at http://tystnad.bandcamp.com
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