i dont no anything about doom metal at all but i would love learn so im embarking on this journy by ordering TROUBLES live in stockholm dvd maybe yous could recomend another cd or dvd that might jog my taste buds ive only heard one doom album, being my dying brides the dreadful hours and i didnt mind it at all and it would also be alright to get a little info on trouble cause i havent even seen there discograghy so um yeah anything that yous would like to tell me about this band and this genre would be appreciated

I recommend Anathema, My Dying Bride, Candlemass, Katatonia for start.

Yeah, Trouble is a great doom metal band...I'm really glad that they're back together too! Good for them! Their new album is coming out in August...Simple Mind Condition...it's probably gonna kick some serious ass...

About doom metal though, there are so many good bands out there...I wouldn't really trust the doomdeath genre all that much that was fused together in the early 90s with bands such as Amorphis and My Dying Bride because both of those bands have evolved into alternative-like metal bands...for example, that song that My Dying Bride did...you all know the one...'Heroin Chic'...like, wtf was that anyway? Cool song, but man, how they've changed...

Type O Negative is my recommendation...two albums to recommend too: October Rust and World Coming Down....they're really powerful and moving albums...especially with songs like Red Water, In Praise Of Bacchus, Everything Dies, and Everyone I Love Is Dead...I also recommend the video for Everything Dies...powerful stuff...

Sleep is another legendary doom metal worth checking out too...I stumbled across their Jerusalem album awhile back...all I can say is WOW....a one hour song about smokin' dope! I put that one when I smoke one man and it's just fuckin' trippy...another recommendation is The Obsessed....they've been around since forever (1983)...Scott "Wino" Weinrich went on to join a lot other doom/stoner metal bands in the 90s...

thanks for the educational info you have just planted in my brain im dead sure it will bring me hours enjoyment GETTING STONED HEEE HEEEE and i might give this stoner metal shit a try being an occational stoner and all yeah and my dying bride or atleast what ive heard isnt exactly depressing stuff i can understand and respect what they are doing but to tell you the truth i reckon ive composed more depressive riffs but u know i havent jack shit to do with doom metal so sory if ive over stepped the mark with anyones more educated opions

HO HO this Doom clsic are here, I rely enjoy them its one of those doom bands who start i 80ties and thay still I hera come togehter an dplay and try recourdet album, its great news, because I realy like them even i had no albums(original albums) but one I had tape of ''The Skull'' i lost trck listeing but great band and I had hera more albums of them, but its was in past

Written by Damnated on 10.07.2006 at 16:09

I recommend Anathema, My Dying Bride, Candlemass, Katatonia for start.

I recommend you stop recommending people rubbish ha ha!

If you are going to get into Trouble buy a copy of Psalm9 its going to be re-issued very soon and it comes with a bonus DVD.

Written by Guest on 20.09.2006 at 12:17

Written by Damnated on 10.07.2006 at 16:09

I recommend Anathema, My Dying Bride, Candlemass, Katatonia for start.

I recommend you stop recommending people rubbish ha ha!

wtf he asked for doom bands. these are good ones, and pretty traditional too.

For anybody intrested in doom metal try: www.doom-metal.com or go to the topic created by Lord Elden: http://www.metalstorm.ee/forum/topic.php?topic_id=619

Like Wizar'd said stop recommending bullshit bands. Try some Candlemass, St. Vitus, Place of Skulls, The Gates of Slumber, Isole, Krux, Thunderstorm jsut to name a few.

Written by Guest on 20.09.2006 at 13:40

For anybody intrested in doom metal try: www.doom-metal.com or go to the topic created by Lord Elden: http://www.metalstorm.ee/forum/topic.php?topic_id=619

Like Wizar'd said stop recommending bullshit bands. Try some Candlemass, St. Vitus, Place of Skulls, The Gates of Slumber, Isole, Krux, Thunderstorm jsut to name a few.

Doom metal are down and thay has amty band date base, I check it before 10minutes still 0 ban in datebase, I tr search even Paradise Lost, and 0 band found.

Written by Damnated on 20.09.2006 at 13:40

Written by Guest on 20.09.2006 at 12:17

Written by Damnated on 10.07.2006 at 16:09

I recommend Anathema, My Dying Bride, Candlemass, Katatonia for start.

I recommend you stop recommending people rubbish ha ha!

wtf he asked for doom bands. these are good ones, and pretty traditional too.

Except Candlemass none of the above are traditional doom metal bands, they all of them started as doom/death bands so that means they aren't traditional doom metal bands...or I might be wrong and doom/death bands are the one called traditional doom bands and the ones Wizar'd was talking about are something else (even if he hasn't posted any!).

Written by Guest on 20.09.2006 at 15:23

Except Candlemass none of the above are traditional doom metal bands, they all of them started as doom/death bands so that means they aren't traditional doom metal bands...or I might be wrong and doom/death bands are the one called traditional doom bands and the ones Wizar'd was talking about are something else (even if he hasn't posted any!).

yeah, I know what your saying, but I didn't mean traditional in the way it is used as a subgenre of doom metal, but to say Anathema etc. play the traditional form of death/doom.

@Damnated: Well this is a thread about Trouble, they are a trad. doom band so I guess that the bands recomanded should be like that one.
@..ExoTeaR..: you should try also Sheavy or Pentagram, about info for Trouble you could check: http://www.rockdetector.com/artist,9551.sm

Trouble is one of the best doom bands. I don´t listen to doom very much , but this band is really great. Best albums are Psalm 9 and The Skull. I didn´t know , that they have new album. Have to check it out really quick.

Saint Vitus are an acquired taste if you want heavy (in the sense of heavy, not heavy metallish) doom metal. Also for me it isn't a question of debate that classic Black Sabbath is doom metal. Try Master of Reality or Black Sabbath or Paranoid. But basically it goes anything until Sabotage (including this one too).
Candlemass - the first four are classics: Epicus Doomicus Metallicus, Nightfall, Ancient Dreams and Tales of Creation.
Solitude Aeturnus also - all of their stuff is great doom metal. Maybe my favourite doom band out there.

Is anyone excited about the new Trouble album? It should be interesting, yet good nonetheless!

well, finally it is about to happen:

TROUBLE'S CD RELEASE PARTY WITH NOVEMBERS DOOM, AND D-CONNECT
Date/Time: Saturday March 31, 2007
Time: 10:00pm - 1:00am
Location: NITE CAP
Street Adr: 5007 W. IRVING PK RD.
City: CHICAGO
Zip: 60630

I for one can't wait for Simple Mind COndition to be released. Especially since I have been following them since their demo days in the very early eighties.

yeap Simple Mind Condition is my most expected traditional doom metal album of the year... well, they're not doom anymore but you know what I mean... good to see that only one day left to the release party

Written by Guest on 30.03.2007 at 23:01

yeap Simple Mind Condition is my most expected traditional doom metal album of the year... well, they're not doom anymore but you know what I mean... good to see that only one day left to the release party

I can't wait for SImple Mind COndition either. And I hope to catch them in May when they p[lay in Amsterdam and hopefully try and get an interview out of the band as well then.
Just last week I bought their Live In Stockholm dvd, which features a kick-ass set.

Trouble has been one of my favorite bands since I first heard them in the 80s. "Psalm 9" and "The Skull" are two of the DEFINING albums of the doom genre (especially "The Skull"). The latest album is good but more like "Plastic Green Head" (except better) in style.

Written by Damnated on 10.07.2006 at 16:09

I recommend Anathema, My Dying Bride, Candlemass, Katatonia for start.

Katatonia?

Doom? . . Whaa?

Even their early stuff doesn't sound very doom-ish.

Excuse my ignorance maybe.

Written by Daniel on 19.03.2008 at 02:37

Written by Damnated on 10.07.2006 at 16:09

I recommend Anathema, My Dying Bride, Candlemass, Katatonia for start.

Katatonia?

Doom? . . Whaa?

Even their early stuff doesn't sound very doom-ish.

Excuse my ignorance maybe.

Come on, early Katatonia is stereotypical black/doom

Going back to topic, all Trouble albums are amazing, I especially enjoy their psychedelic rock album "Manif Frustration" but their doom metal stuff is among the best of the genre. Their last album Simple Mind Condition also proved to be one of the best of the year.

I've only heard Psalm 9 and Simple Mind Condition, but they're fucking awesome. I noticed that sometimes on Psalm 9 the vocalist sounds slightly similar to Jon Oliva of Savatage, but waaaaaaaaaay less annoying.

Written by Daniel on 19.03.2008 at 02:37

Written by Damnated on 10.07.2006 at 16:09

I recommend Anathema, My Dying Bride, Candlemass, Katatonia for start.

Katatonia?

Doom? . . Whaa?

Even their early stuff doesn't sound very doom-ish.

Excuse my ignorance maybe.

what planet are you from? have you even heard early Katatonia, or you just quoted me for the lulz. Dance of December Souls is one of the greatest doom albums of all time. in your opinion, what is it? black metal?

Trouble, aaaaahhhh

In little under a month I will be seeing them live again for the first time since 1995 when they performed at Dynamo Open Air in front of around 120,000 people, first time I saw them was 5 years earlier (also at D.O.A. but in front of around 25,000)

And now finally in a club in front of 2,000 people at most.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 19.03.2008 at 17:37

Trouble, aaaaahhhh

In little under a month I will be seeing them live again for the first time since 1995 when they performed at Dynamo Open Air in front of around 120,000 people, first time I saw them was 5 years earlier (also at D.O.A. but in front of around 25,000)

And now finally in a club in front of 2,000 people at most.

How was 'Simple Mind Condition?'

Written by Clintagräm on 19.03.2008 at 17:39

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 19.03.2008 at 17:37

Trouble, aaaaahhhh

In little under a month I will be seeing them live again for the first time since 1995 when they performed at Dynamo Open Air in front of around 120,000 people, first time I saw them was 5 years earlier (also at D.O.A. but in front of around 25,000)

And now finally in a club in front of 2,000 people at most.

How was 'Simple Mind Condition?'

I really liked it though it isn't their strongest. But if you like Manic Frustration & Plastic Green Head, you will most certainly also enjoy Simple Mind Condition. So it is a less doom more stoner/poppish release byt them with quite a bit of Beatles overtones.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 19.03.2008 at 17:42

Written by Clintagräm on 19.03.2008 at 17:39

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 19.03.2008 at 17:37

Trouble, aaaaahhhh

In little under a month I will be seeing them live again for the first time since 1995 when they performed at Dynamo Open Air in front of around 120,000 people, first time I saw them was 5 years earlier (also at D.O.A. but in front of around 25,000)

And now finally in a club in front of 2,000 people at most.

How was 'Simple Mind Condition?'

I really liked it though it isn't their strongest. But if you like Manic Frustration & Plastic Green Head, you will most certainly also enjoy Simple Mind Condition. So it is a less doom more stoner/poppish release byt them with quite a bit of Beatles overtones.

Haha did we listen to the same album?

True that Trouble left straight doom behind many years ago, but I couldn't agree less with your description. I think it is a very balanced, unpretentious album that has little to do with their last two albums, and I don't really know where did you get that "Beatles" overtones idea from.... but well, great album by an amazing band.

Written by Guest on 20.03.2008 at 02:05

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 19.03.2008 at 17:42

Written by Clintagräm on 19.03.2008 at 17:39

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 19.03.2008 at 17:37

Trouble, aaaaahhhh

In little under a month I will be seeing them live again for the first time since 1995 when they performed at Dynamo Open Air in front of around 120,000 people, first time I saw them was 5 years earlier (also at D.O.A. but in front of around 25,000)

And now finally in a club in front of 2,000 people at most.

How was 'Simple Mind Condition?'

I really liked it though it isn't their strongest. But if you like Manic Frustration & Plastic Green Head, you will most certainly also enjoy Simple Mind Condition. So it is a less doom more stoner/poppish release byt them with quite a bit of Beatles overtones.

Haha did we listen to the same album?

True that Trouble left straight doom behind many years ago, but I couldn't agree less with your description. I think it is a very balanced, unpretentious album that has little to do with their last two albums, and I don't really know where did you get that "Beatles" overtones idea from.... but well, great album by an amazing band.

The Beatles overtones I hear in quite a few of the used melodies. It is balanced I agree, and has nof filler tracks like Plastic green Head and Manic Frustrations. Btw, with your statement about SMC being unpretentious (which I agree with btw) are you suggesting that the oehter albums are pretentious? Cause I don't hear anythign pretentious in those at all.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.03.2008 at 10:03

Written by Guest on 20.03.2008 at 02:05

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 19.03.2008 at 17:42

Written by Clintagräm on 19.03.2008 at 17:39

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 19.03.2008 at 17:37

Trouble, aaaaahhhh

In little under a month I will be seeing them live again for the first time since 1995 when they performed at Dynamo Open Air in front of around 120,000 people, first time I saw them was 5 years earlier (also at D.O.A. but in front of around 25,000)

And now finally in a club in front of 2,000 people at most.

How was 'Simple Mind Condition?'

I really liked it though it isn't their strongest. But if you like Manic Frustration & Plastic Green Head, you will most certainly also enjoy Simple Mind Condition. So it is a less doom more stoner/poppish release byt them with quite a bit of Beatles overtones.

Haha did we listen to the same album?

True that Trouble left straight doom behind many years ago, but I couldn't agree less with your description. I think it is a very balanced, unpretentious album that has little to do with their last two albums, and I don't really know where did you get that "Beatles" overtones idea from.... but well, great album by an amazing band.

The Beatles overtones I hear in quite a few of the used melodies. It is balanced I agree, and has nof filler tracks like Plastic green Head and Manic Frustrations. Btw, with your statement about SMC being unpretentious (which I agree with btw) are you suggesting that the oehter albums are pretentious? Cause I don't hear anythign pretentious in those at all.

No, I didn't want to mean that... I hadn't listened to Plastic Green Head, but Manic Frustration is certainly not pretentious.

Trouble is still one of my favourite doom bands, along with Pagan Altar. Psalm 9 is without competition my favourite album by them, especiallly love the song The Tempter.