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Band: My Dying Bride
Album: For Lies I Sire
Style: Death doom metal, Gothic doom metal
Release date: March 2009


01. My Body, A Funeral
02. Fall With Me
03. The Lies I Sire
04. Bring Me Victory
05. Echoes From A Hollow Soul
06. ShadowHaunt
07. Santuario Di Sangue
08. A Chapter In Loathing
09. Death Triumphant

Look, I just cut myself, this violin sounds like a razor blade slicing my arteries. Now let me read some Shakespeare to you. Pain. Suffering. My ex-girlfriend. Religion. Violins as razors again. Crimson red drops of blood meandering like the wine from the Holy Grail. Your ex-girlfriend. Pain. Violins. Shakespeare. Latin references, look how deep I am. Bleeding love. Now look, I'm angry for a moment!!! Speed. I'm angry!!! AAAAA... OK, now, I'm sad again. Depression. Shattered passion. Violins. Pain. Goodbye.

Come on, we all know this is precisely what My Dying Bride does on every single album including the more experimental ones. If this is your kind of thing, For Lies I Sire will be right up your alley, just like all the other albums by this band. It's not my kind of thing though. To me, pseudo-romantic, overwrought whining like this is quite annoying, frankly. Truly depressed people don't broadcast their pathetic stories in 10 albums, don't recite Shakespearean poetry and don't threaten to commit suicide. They just fucking do it. Preferably in an amusing way, such as by jumping from a building on an old lady. Or by running into a mall with dynamite up their ass. Life is just a cruel joke anyway, right? Well, laugh at this, society!

For Lies I Sire is the first My Dying Bride album to feature violins since Like Gods Of The Sun and as a consequence sounds quite similar to that record. In other words, it is slightly faster and more straight-forward than usual, has more crunchy riffs and steers clear of growled vocals. The exception to this is "A Chapter In Loathing", a weird song with blastbeats and strangely screeched vocals, ironically the only enjoyable piece here. The other tracks follow the band's trademark template as described above and they do it... averagely at best. So if you love this band, the album will be a decent one, or perhaps a slightly above average one for you.

The music on For Lies I Sire has some moments but that doesn't take away from the fact that still, after all these years, the best My Dying Bride songs are those that throw their formula out of the window. Which is what I will happily do now with this CD. Hopefully it will hit an old lady right on the head.





 Written on 22.04.2009 by
jupitreas
With Metal Storm since 2002, jupitreas has been subjecting the masses to his reviews for quite a while now. He lives in Warsaw, Poland, where he does his best to avoid prosecution for being so cool.
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24.04.2009 - 15:57
THE_BLACK_GOD
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 24.04.2009 at 02:19

My God, the My Dying Bride fanboys are once again crying their eyes out about one of the MOST OBJECTIVE reviews around.

And NO Jups doesn't mock the entire doom scene he just mocks Aaron Whinethorpe and My Dying Bride (the bandname alone jusr begs for being mocked)

I cant see any fanboy here! everyone (at least 99% of ppl over here) are agree that this album is the wrorst or one of the worst album of MDB, why the hell all of you staff members take each other's back even if the man is absolutely wrong? its a shame!

no one here seems to be a fanboy marcel, ppl are sad cause someone published a review which is absolutely about MDB and not this album, ts not rational and fair that you call ppl fansboy when you dont have time to read all posts over here! cause you are at a gig right now.

MDB's fans are so real they dont like 34. ... % complete (not me) and they dont hide it. they say this album is bad but they say "this review is so so so so much wrose than this album is", thats all. and I think some ppl who didnt listened to this album laughed t this review as you see!

if this was my review I think now it was erased from MS.
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24.04.2009 - 20:01
domski
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I think the reviewer was a bit harsh. The five songs that open the album flow incredibly well together. The album has great harmonies and melodies. The vocals sound really good and I really enjoy the mood. It's not even all that depressive. It sounds triumphant to a certain degree. This is their best since "Songs of Darkness..." I'm glad the singer at least did a few screaming vocals! And man, I wasn't expecting a blast beat near the end =P
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24.04.2009 - 21:37
Koen Smits

Written by Reizenstein on 22.04.2009 at 22:54

I don't see the issue here. jupi listens to an album (hopefully with an open mind), finds he doesn't like it, and poke fun at said band in a review.

I havn't heard the album, so I'm not going to comment on that, but it annoys me that as soon as someone doesn't like an album you like, said person is not allowed to write anything about it. I mean, come on, it's music...

Just my two, and quite huble at that, cents.


I havn't heard the album eather and it annoys me bigtime that there's so much critic on the reviewer!
You can not review an album when you don't like it? What kind of kiddyshit is that?
If I listen to an album and I don't like it and I want to write a review about it ( it's a free world ) and I give it a big fat zero, then it's your right to disagree, but don't take it personally and don't shit on my opinion just because you like the album and/or band.

@THE_BLACK_GOD: how can the man be absolutely wrong when he writes what he believes? I'm not a fan of Iron Maiden, Judas Priest or Metallica, do I need to get banned now?
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but spoil thius film is like spoil porn and say porn ends whit cum shot ...
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24.04.2009 - 23:01
VPeter

Jupitreas mah boi, we can pet each other on the back. Your review got same backlash as mine Moonspell Night Eternal review. And hey I see the same fellow fanboy at my Moonspell review here to, apparently he still has to get a brain. My Dying bride fanboys are more pathetic then Moonspell fanboys lol.

Great review and a nice jab at My Dying Bride's arrogance of late. it's such a shame that there talent went to waste.... For Lies I sire is a bland forgettable album, which makes me switch back to Turn Loose the Swans quickly.
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25.04.2009 - 00:43
Reizenstein

Written by Koen Smits on 24.04.2009 at 21:37

Written by Reizenstein on 22.04.2009 at 22:54

I don't see the issue here. jupi listens to an album (hopefully with an open mind), finds he doesn't like it, and poke fun at said band in a review.

I havn't heard the album, so I'm not going to comment on that, but it annoys me that as soon as someone doesn't like an album you like, said person is not allowed to write anything about it. I mean, come on, it's music...

Just my two, and quite huble at that, cents.


I havn't heard the album eather and it annoys me bigtime that there's so much critic on the reviewer!
You can not review an album when you don't like it? What kind of kiddyshit is that?
If I listen to an album and I don't like it and I want to write a review about it ( it's a free world ) and I give it a big fat zero, then it's your right to disagree, but don't take it personally and don't shit on my opinion just because you like the album and/or band.



I'm not sure if I understood your comment, but that's exactly what I meant

(To clarify, I wasn't sure if you were agreeing with me or thinking I was critisising jupi for his review, which I was not)
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25.04.2009 - 03:33
Magatouve
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As pointed earlier by some people here, there's a difference between reviewing an album and being disgusted with the whole idea behind a genre or sub-genre. Everyone has the complete right to express their hatred for or disgust with any approach to music, such as MDB's. But, on the other hand, a review of a specific album that fits within this approach is not the right place to say that. What is done here by jupitreas is not a review at all... it's just his own taste of music.
By the way, I'm not a big fan of MDB, though I like some of their music. Anyway, my point is that any album should be reviewed with respect to the place where it fits in music. If you don't like that place at all, you cannot tell how this album sounds like
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25.04.2009 - 04:02
Rating: 10
Emperor IX

Jupitreas thinks mocking a band and genre is ok as long as it conveys his point of view about an album or direction or lack of direction a band is taking. If he is going to mock/ridicule a band and the genre it belongs to be prepared to cop some shit back.

Yes I agree he has every right to ridicule and hate any band he wants to, what I am trying to say is that metalstorm has high standards and usually reviews music in a thorough and constructive manner. I guess I have been accustomed to these high standards, and when I was subjected to such a poor, tasteless, down right nasty review I took offence.

I have every right to criticize this review, just as jupitreas has every right to write mocking reviews. That being said we don't have to sit back and take shit, I'm sure many other users wont mind going somewhere else for their metal information.
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25.04.2009 - 05:36
Susan
Smeghead
Well written review, my friend. You have a knack for humor. "Which is what I will happily do now with this CD. Hopefully it will hit an old lady right on the head." hahaha I love the tie-in. Oh, and from what I've just heard from this album I totally agree with the review, too.
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At the end of my days"
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25.04.2009 - 06:55
Hrothdane

This was a HILARIOUS review! I almost want to listen to the album just to see if it is actually that bad (and I have NEVER had an urge to go listen to MDB. Ever.).

For all those complaining about the review, notice he didn't even give the album a number rating. Is it the most informative review ever? Probably not. Is the reviewer a little biased against the band and the genre? Certainly, but he came right out and said it at the beginning. I get rather sick of reviewers who try to deny that they are human and have subjective biases (no matter how big or little). Let jupitreas have a little fun.

If you can't get a laugh out of this review, maybe you have been listening to too much MDB
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25.04.2009 - 10:05
THE_BLACK_GOD
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Written by Koen Smits on 24.04.2009 at 21:37

I havn't heard the album eather and it annoys me bigtime that there's so much critic on the reviewer!
You can not review an album when you don't like it? What kind of kiddyshit is that?

@THE_BLACK_GOD: how can the man be absolutely wrong when he writes what he believes? I'm not a fan of Iron Maiden, Judas Priest or Metallica, do I need to get banned now?

pLz first read the posts before my posts then judgme me, it was an answer to a man who said me that its better for me to not read this review if its not my taste!!!! WTF? and I answered that.
its too better to read all posts then point your finger of blame.
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25.04.2009 - 10:19
THE_BLACK_GOD
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Written by Hrothdane on 25.04.2009 at 06:55

This was a HILARIOUS review! I almost want to listen to the album just to see if it is actually that bad (and I have NEVER had an urge to go listen to MDB. Ever.).

For all those complaining about the review, notice he didn't even give the album a number rating. Is it the most informative review ever? Probably not. Is the reviewer a little biased against the band and the genre? Certainly, but he came right out and said it at the beginning. I get rather sick of reviewers who try to deny that they are human and have subjective biases (no matter how big or little). Let jupitreas have a little fun.

If you can't get a laugh out of this review, maybe you have been listening to too much MDB

wise words! but you have to know that jupiteras never give a number to his reviews.

lets be honest over here, Im really sorry that MDB released this album, cause its a really Stereotyped and bad album, its very borrrring which I cant say how much! the only thing which is really nice in this album is its violin and I dont know how jupiteras can ridicule it! we the fans of MDB are sorry cause he Humliliated MDB, its not a criticize. and the fact is that even the none MDB fans laughed at this review as you.

when a Grindcore fan who likes Anal Cunt and talks about it as a godlike band, then its so clear that he thinks MDB fans and the genre and aaron and violin and everything is such a pussy thing! I think all of us have seen Jason Neswted's action about Violins in backstage part of S&M's DVD !!! , I think jupiteras is a big fan of Newsted.
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25.04.2009 - 11:57
jupitreas
hi-fi / lo-life
First of all, people, its jupitreas, not jupiteras. Learn to spell!

Never seen the S&M DVD, don't like Metallica either so I probably won't. I do happen to be a Newsted fan though, due to all the good he did for Voivod...
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25.04.2009 - 12:02
THE_BLACK_GOD
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Written by jupitreas on 25.04.2009 at 11:57

First of all, people, its jupitreas, not jupiteras. Learn to spell!

Never seen the S&M DVD, don't like Metallica either so I probably won't. I do happen to be a Newsted fan though, due to all the good he did for Voivod...

nice to hear that, is newsted on their D-V-O-D-1 dvd? and if I was you I would find the dvd of S&M and see that part, at first second jason newsted do a nice thing with violin behind its players eyes!
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25.04.2009 - 12:10
jupitreas
hi-fi / lo-life
Written by Guest on 25.04.2009 at 12:02

Written by jupitreas on 25.04.2009 at 11:57

First of all, people, its jupitreas, not jupiteras. Learn to spell!

Never seen the S&M DVD, don't like Metallica either so I probably won't. I do happen to be a Newsted fan though, due to all the good he did for Voivod...

nice to hear that, is newsted on their D-V-O-D-1 dvd? and if I was you I would find the dvd of S&M and see that part, at first second jason newsted do a nice thing with violin behind its players eyes!


D-V-O-D-1 covers the first Voivod lineup only, if I remember correctly. Besides, this is not the place to talk about Voivod, or is the MDB album so bad that people already forgot about it and want to chat about bass players from other bands???
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25.04.2009 - 12:14
THE_BLACK_GOD
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Written by jupitreas on 25.04.2009 at 12:10

Written by Guest on 25.04.2009 at 12:02

Written by jupitreas on 25.04.2009 at 11:57

First of all, people, its jupitreas, not jupiteras. Learn to spell!

Never seen the S&M DVD, don't like Metallica either so I probably won't. I do happen to be a Newsted fan though, due to all the good he did for Voivod...

nice to hear that, is newsted on their D-V-O-D-1 dvd? and if I was you I would find the dvd of S&M and see that part, at first second jason newsted do a nice thing with violin behind its players eyes!


D-V-O-D-1 covers the first Voivod lineup only, if I remember correctly. Besides, this is not the place to talk about Voivod, or is the MDB album so bad that people already forgot about it and want to chat about bass players from other bands???

its as bad as your review man! you have to deal with it. yes this album deserves a 6.5 in my opinion as I mentioned it for many times.
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25.04.2009 - 17:41
silenius

Lets all gather at my place for some chillout, some beer and a gigantic grouphug:D <3
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26.04.2009 - 20:31
Berser_KED

I didn't like this album much at all but I can listen to MDB. I think "The Dreadful Hours" is a particularly decent album.

I thought this review was pointless. Yes, it was mildly humorous but at the expense of sounding childish in my opinion.

As brought up early, I don't think you need to be a fan of a certain genre to critique it but you must be objective. Taking the piss out of the genre or band is not being objective.

Whilst I agree overall that this album is nothing inspired or new, I think there was a much better way of saying it.
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27.04.2009 - 10:14
THE_BLACK_GOD
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Im a fan of MDB, but I cant really understand the ppl who give a 10 or 9 for this borring and stereotyped album! just casue its MDB? just cause we are fans?
this way they wont solve their problems and the next album would be like this?
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27.04.2009 - 12:12
Rating: 9
fosi

In my opinion For Lies I Sire is a great album and I think this review discourages a lot of people that may wanted to have a listen the album, or even worse give it an unfair rate without even listening to it!!!
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27.04.2009 - 12:31
THE_BLACK_GOD
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Written by fosi on 27.04.2009 at 12:12

In my opinion For Lies I Sire is a great album and I think this review discourages a lot of people that may wanted to have a listen the album, or even worse give it an unfair rate without even listening to it!!!

first I listened to the album, I liked it so much, but to be honest its very depressing, so slow, I cant take it anymore its over Depressing album but in a bad way. take a look at Saturnus's "Martyre" album, its avery Depressing album too, but its a nice album. and you enjoy that kind of depressing music but this album annoyed me after I listened to it for times and times again.
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28.04.2009 - 01:35
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Mastercommander
I was never really interested in buying this album in the first place. Maybe I'll pick it up when I have nothing better to purchase one of these days.
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28.04.2009 - 10:25
THE_BLACK_GOD
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Written by -DC-002- on 28.04.2009 at 01:35

I was never really interested in buying this album in the first place. Maybe I'll pick it up when I have nothing better to purchase one of these days.

buy it for its special things! picks and note-booklet!
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01.05.2009 - 18:29
Mindheist
No Longer Human
I completely agree with Emperor IX and Magatouve. As for jupitreas, man you're a good reviewer, really, but mocking a band like MDB is way too...forgive me for the word, but unprofessional. What we have here is not a review at all, it's your own taste of music, you barely talked about the music, you just kept on trashing the band. Do you really think that's a good thing? If you don't like them, it's your thing, but a little bit of respect won't do you any harm my friend.

Another thing, you said "Learn to spell!" to "THE_BLACK_GOD" who is by the way a member of the MS community...Dude, he made a spelling mistake, it's not the end of the world, there's no need to get angry. We respect you, we all do.
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02.05.2009 - 17:56
3dd

Pathetic review, don't bother reading. This album is really good, the violins and piano fits perfectly on the tracks. I can't stop listening to "ECHOES FROM A HOLLOW SOUL" and "SANTUARIO DI SANGUE", these songs worth the whole album.
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02.05.2009 - 18:19
THE_BLACK_GOD
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My song is Shadowhaunt on this album
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19.05.2009 - 18:21
Talvi

Lol my favorite band got a low rating, I'm so angry.

Also some people are just stupid with ratings. If you hate it, why a 6.5? 6.5 is a good rating. 6.5 in school is a good mark. Some people see ratings of 7 or less as negative. And that is objective.
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20.05.2009 - 11:32
THE_BLACK_GOD
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Written by Talvi on 19.05.2009 at 18:21

Lol my favorite band got a low rating, I'm so angry.

Also some people are just stupid with ratings. If you hate it, why a 6.5? 6.5 is a good rating. 6.5 in school is a good mark. Some people see ratings of 7 or less as negative. And that is objective.

good point thank you man.
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20.05.2009 - 16:31
Syk
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Written by Talvi on 19.05.2009 at 18:21
6.5 in school is a good mark. Some people see ratings of 7 or less as negative. And that is objective.
Of course you had a good point before the part I'm quoting, but 6.5 is JUST BARELY a good mark. And what do you mean with that bit after that?
Written by fosi on 27.04.2009 at 12:12
In my opinion For Lies I Sire is a great album and I think this review discourages a lot of people that may wanted to have a listen the album, or even worse give it an unfair rate without even listening to it!!!
If people read a provocative review with over 100 comments and don't think for themselves that they may still enjoy the work, they completely deserve to pass by something that would have given them happiness. Get some brains, y'all
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20.05.2009 - 17:20
Talvi

Written by Syk on 20.05.2009 at 16:31

Written by Talvi on 19.05.2009 at 18:21
6.5 in school is a good mark. Some people see ratings of 7 or less as negative. And that is objective.
Of course you had a good point before the part I'm quoting, but 6.5 is JUST BARELY a good mark. And what do you mean with that bit after that?

I mean that in a scale of ten, everything above 5 is somehow good and below somehow bad. Yeah, 5 is indifference and 6 is barely good but still a nice spin. Which is something objective. While some people say that something below 7 or even 8 is a negative rating. And that happens in most ratings systems of a lot of websites.
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09.06.2009 - 00:40
Rating: 9
ravendeath

Well, I don´t think that the reviewer even listened to this album, or at last he probably just skiped the songs by 5 seconds. Otherwise this is a great album... not like "Turn Loose The Swans", but still great.
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