Written by VPeter on 08.08.2009 at 22:59


Yes it is overlooked, most people only know of old Anathema, My Dying Bride and old Paradise Lost when talking about Death/Doom.

But then you are talking about the casual listener of death doom, not the real death doom fans.
But looking at the greater picture they are if course somehow an obscure band. Both Winter and Paradise Lost formed in 1988 formed and released their debut album in 1990 (although Winter later in the year)
Winter's problem was that their debut was only released outside the US in 1992.
And Winter is of course way more death metal than even the first PL, My Dying Bride and Anathema. SOundweise current band COffins leans immensely on the true venomous sad ugliness of Winter's sound. The cover artwork just entirely typifies what Winter stands for.

Well considering I wrote a review for this album which I love so dearly, how about Eternal Nightmare by Vio-lence ftw? It absolutely boggles my mind to see that album only has 21 votes to date on the site.

War's both albums: "We Are War" and "Total War". Amazing and really raw stuff.

Written by VPeter on 08.08.2009 at 22:59

[Winter - Into Darkness]

Yes it is overlooked, most people only know of old Anathema, My Dying Bride and old Paradise Lost when talking about Death/Doom.

Perhaps on this forum. If you asked on any forum aimed more at extreme metal fans you'd be unlikely to come across someone who doesn't have an opinion on this album.

This has just turned into an argument about what can be classed as "overlooked".

Totenlieder by Absurd.

I'd assume it's probably more highly regarded among dumb nazis but they will listen to any garbage with some kind of NS association. I think this album is seriously awesome though and not too many people I come into contact with seem to think much of it. It's got that pseudo-punk "fuck you" attitude down to a science with some pretty neat guitar solos to boot. I have a suspicion I'd like it a little less if I could understand the lyrics and song titles though...

Written by -tom- on 17.08.2009 at 03:33

This has just turned into an argument about what can be classed as "overlooked".

Yeah I agree about Winter. But that's only if you search on a specific forum. If we just talk about metalheads as a whole, I think Winter is overlooked since there are more metalheads into the melodic side of metal than the extreme one.
And even if we just think about the people who are into the extreme side of metal, many aren't really familiar to that kind of doom.
So yeah... in general the band would be overlooked [just like the debut of Disembowelment imo] but if we just count the doomsters... They are quite popular

My head hurts now @___@

But an album as odd as Into Darkness is never going to appeal to many melodic metal fans. We might as well say In the Nightside Eclipse is overlooked. Winter is one of the most well-known doom bands around excluding MDB, Anathema, Paradise Lost and the like.

As a rough definition, let's say this: An album that get's considerably less attention from the fans of the sub-genre it's part of than you feel it deserves.

Written by -tom- on 20.08.2009 at 16:05

As a rough definition, let's say this: An album that get's considerably less attention from the fans of the sub-genre it's part of than you feel it deserves.

Exactly, and hence Winter - Into Darkness is NOT overlooked.

AGENT STEEL Skeptics Apocalypse
AGENT STEEL Unstoppable force
CRIMSON GLORY Crimson Glory
CRIMSON GLORY Transcendence
DEADLY BLESSING Ascend from the cauldron
EIDOLON Nightmare world
FLOTSAM & JETSAM Doomsday for the deceiver
FLOTSAM & JETSAM No place for disgrace
HEATHEN Victims of deception
HELSTAR Burning star
HELSTAR Remnants of war
HELSTAR A distant thunder
HELSTAR Nosferatu
JACOB'S DREAM Jacob's dream
JACOB'S DREAM Theater of war
LEATHERWOLF Leatherwolf
LEATHERWOLF Leatherwolf
LEATHERWOLF Street ready
LÄÄZ ROCKIT Know your enemy
LETHAL Programmed
LIEGE LORD Freedom's rise
MYSTIK The plot sickens
NASTY SAVAGE Nasty savage
NASTY SAVAGE Indulgence / Abstract reality
OLIVER MAGNUM Oliver magnum
ORACLE As darkness reigns
PSYCHOTIC WALTZ A social grace
RIOT Thundersteel
SANCTUARY Refuge denied
SANCTUARY Into the mirror black
SAVAGE GRACE After the fall from grace
SATAN Court in the act
TYRANT'S REIGN Tyrant's Reign
TITAN FORCE Titan Force
TITAN FORCE Winner / Loser
VIO-LENCE Eternal nightmare
VICIOUS RUMORS Digital dictator
WINTER'S BANE Heart of a killer

Written by -tom- on 20.08.2009 at 16:05

As a rough definition, let's say this: An album that get's considerably less attention from the fans of the sub-genre it's part of than you feel it deserves.

Totally got it now

Wargasm - Why Play Around?

One of the best thrash albums ever, but too bad it's too kvlt to buy :/

Written by Dangerboner on 26.08.2009 at 09:20

Wargasm - Why Play Around?

One of the best thrash albums ever, but too bad it's too kvlt to buy :/

It is a great album but one of the best? Mmmmm, I would say best of the rest.

Btw it is not too kvlt to own

With no doubt i must say Paradox By Royal Hunt !! one of the greatest albums ever relaesed in Progressive power Metal !!

Alot of the classic Black Metal albums are overlooked by many metal circle esspecially outside of the BM circle. I will say just a few for non BM fans to consider when looking for classics.
Emperor - Anthems of the Welken Dusk, Promethians: The Disipline of Fire and Dimise
Immortal - Damned in Black, Sons of Northern Darkness, At the Heart of Winter
1349 - Hellfire

I suppose this is a short list from my 3 favorite BM bands, but all well worth a listen.

The Lonesome Crow by the Scorpions. Anyone dare argue that?! >:[

Written by Fat & Sassy! on 19.10.2009 at 02:47

The Lonesome Crow by the Scorpions. Anyone dare argue that?! >:[

Imo that isn't a classic album at all. It showed some glimmers of what was to come witht he subsequent releases, but as a whole I find it to be quite weak with just one strong song (In Search of the Peace of Mind)

I think overlooked might mean more like underrated. I would definitely go for Obscenity, the third chapter.

Has anyone ever heard Friends of Hell by Witchfinder General. Why doesn't this album get any due's?

Written by listmor on 26.01.2012 at 09:41

Has anyone ever heard Friends of Hell by Witchfinder General. Why doesn't this album get any due's?

Because it more less is a Black Sabbath rip-off?

Btw, I love the album immensely.

Written by Fat & Sassy! on 19.10.2009 at 02:47

The Lonesome Crow by the Scorpions. Anyone dare argue that?! >:[

I don't dare argue that. I actually agree.

Testament- the gathering
iron maiden- x factor
sodom- code red

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 26.01.2012 at 14:51

Written by listmor on 26.01.2012 at 09:41

Has anyone ever heard Friends of Hell by Witchfinder General. Why doesn't this album get any due's?

Because it more less is a Black Sabbath rip-off?

Btw, I love the album immensely.

Its Ironic that because they do sabbath better than sabbath there is little recognition for the work. (Acknowledging your personal enjoyment of the album.)

Written by Hellish Star on 20.08.2009 at 20:35

HELSTAR Burning star
HELSTAR Remnants of war
HELSTAR A distant thunder
HELSTAR Nosferatu

Stole my thunder dude. Helstar in general is overlooked but they are a great speed/power band and Rivera is one of the greatest metal vocalists ever
also i would add: Psychotic Waltz - A Social Grace

Written by bran on 27.01.2012 at 05:20

iron maiden- x factor

This piece of crap can't be considered a classic by any stretch of the imagination.
For the record, I fucking hate this album.

Written by Visioneerie on 14.07.2009 at 04:59

Maybe Resurrection's Embalmed In Existence which was one hell of a brutal death album.

It's not a bad album but it has a weakness: repetition. The songs sound all the same.
And it's standard old school Death Metal, not Brutal Death.

Written by X-Ray Rod on 08.08.2009 at 18:47

In my humble opinion I think that Therion's "Lepaca Kliffoth" and "Symphony Masses: Ho Drakon Ho Megas" are overlooked, specially by the fans of the band... Because most of them are just fans of the more symphonic stuff. But damn... This two albums are brilliant and fresh.

I think "Of Darkness" and "Beyond Sanctorum" are more overlooked. Most people don't even know that Therion started as a Death Metal band.

I know it's not technically "classic" but Destiny's End put out 2 albums Breathe Deep the Dark and Transition are some of the best Speed/Power albums ever released and almost no one knows about them

Written by RavenKing on 28.01.2012 at 00:36

Written by bran on 27.01.2012 at 05:20

iron maiden- x factor

This piece of crap can't be considered a classic by any stretch of the imagination.
For the record, I fucking hate this album.

thats your opinion i think you're dead wrong i think its just as good as the albums iron maiden-somewhere in time and it is miles better than seventh son of a seventh son which is a good album but very overrated

Written by bran on 28.01.2012 at 04:32

Written by RavenKing on 28.01.2012 at 00:36

Written by bran on 27.01.2012 at 05:20

iron maiden- x factor

This piece of crap can't be considered a classic by any stretch of the imagination.
For the record, I fucking hate this album.

thats your opinion i think you're dead wrong i think its just as good as the albums iron maiden-somewhere in time and it is miles better than seventh son of a seventh son which is a good album but very overrated

Like you said: that's your opinion. Opinion I obviously don't share.