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Posted by Haddonfield on 20.07.2009 at 01:55
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I know this might seem a wierd topic but it's something I've considered for a long time. I will explain. When I was in high school, not many people listened to rock or metal, as you would expect from 11 to 15 year olds. I think people find their personilty at around 16 or 17 years old. We were about 5 rock (metal) fans in a school of 400 pupils. When I moved on to Lycee (French equivalent to College), there were slighty more rock/metal fans, it's funny to notice how those people who listened to Nirvana and co. back in high school suddenly appeared to listen to all sorts of metal bands. We were all drawn together. Basically every metalhead in the school new the others. We were a maximum of 30 metalheads out of 700 students. I must mention now that in high school and Lycee, the rock/metal fans were always average students, getting average marks without working at all, and I was one of them. When I moved on to Uni, it seemed most my metal friends had to, and many more from over colleges. In the first year, of English studies, we were a full line in the amphitheatre who the lecturers depised and saw as rejects and future dropouts. Again, we all got slightly about average grades, just enough to get through to the following year with the minimum of work. Funny enough, along the years us metalheads managed to progress from year to year whilst others droped out. In our third year we were like 20 out of 60 students. During my masters degree, we were 5 out of fifteen. It's as if we're the only people with a mind capable of analysing a subject quickly and intelligently are capable of understanding the beauty of metal. I would like to know whether other people have experienced or noticed similar things or whether it was a one of matter that occured during my education (although the amount of fresh metalhead students turning up every year at Uni tends to justify my statement).
PS: A mate made me notice the same thing with left handed people. Every year the proportion of left handed people in the class tended to rise, I remember one lesson when there were more lefthanded people than right handed and that is not natural.
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 nasmith
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16.03.2013 at 08:21
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Written by Ceddybu on 16.03.2013 at 03:10
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 15.03.2013 at 18:51
Written by Fritillaria on 15.03.2013 at 18:46
Well not more intelligent but I say perhaps there are more intellectuals among them, hmmm and this music makes some of them to be more intellective persons.
You should look into the sort of people that are into jazz
I think if anything jazz is for those with a higher "musical IQ", when you think about the other genres like, I don't know pop or metal, they rely a lot on being catchy or energetic or easy to relate to or whatever and there's not as much in jazz cause a lot has no lyrics and no dope ass beats. I just think most are not brought up in a musical setting to prepare them for really appreciating jazz music. Although I don't wanna sound like elitist and that you have to have some background to listen to it... anyone can listen to and appreciate whatever kind of music they want.
TBH I think that bands that play technical metal (tech death, prog, etc.) have as much intellectual legitimacy as jazz musicians in at least the skill and usually creativity required to make the music.
On the other hand, experimental/avant-garde bands can be seen as even more intellectual in the way they push the boundary of metal and not just music (because metal has been pushing the boundaries of music further and further since the beginning  ). For example, Sunn O))), who play drone metal, try to play minimalist guitar music played so loudly that it gives the audience a drowsy feeling, kind of like meditation (thus it's no surprise that they get a lot of hipsters at their shows as well as metalheads). That's the kind of stuff that makes you think: Is this metal? is this even music? I personally would be interested in going to a gig by them as much as a death metal gig.
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 Marcel Hubregtse
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16.03.2013 at 13:27
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Written by BoxCar Willy on 16.03.2013 at 04:02
Just watch footage from Wacken or Obscene Extreme (especially this).
It's practically a NASA convention.
Sarcasm doesn't come across too well without emoticons
Yeah, those two festivals are truly gatherings of the highly intelligent and intellectual people of this world  Most of the people present there make the lowliest of low animals seem like total rocket scientists 
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Vombatus
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16.03.2013 at 15:25
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I don't think a festival footage is a very good indication on the intelligence of fans.... Alot of people just go crazy as fuck and are (quite) normal people outside of it ! Do you imagine people at Obscene Extreme being like that in everyday life ?
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Ceddybu
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16.03.2013 at 19:06
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Written by nasmith on 16.03.2013 at 08:21
TBH I think that bands that play technical metal (tech death, prog, etc.) have as much intellectual legitimacy as jazz musicians in at least the skill and usually creativity required to make the music.
On the other hand, experimental/avant-garde bands can be seen as even more intellectual in the way they push the boundary of metal and not just music (because metal has been pushing the boundaries of music further and further since the beginning ). For example, Sunn O))), who play drone metal, try to play minimalist guitar music played so loudly that it gives the audience a drowsy feeling, kind of like meditation (thus it's no surprise that they get a lot of hipsters at their shows as well as metalheads). That's the kind of stuff that makes you think: Is this metal? is this even music? I personally would be interested in going to a gig by them as much as a death metal gig.
I think playing technical death metal just requires a good understanding of your instrument and good (surprise) technique. I don't think that has any inherent connection to intelligence, just how much you practice and push yourself. And in terms of creativity a lot of tech deaths bands really aren't all too creative. A lot of tech death soloing is guitar-jerking.
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Ceddybu
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16.03.2013 at 19:08
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Written by Vombatus on 16.03.2013 at 15:25
I don't think a festival footage is a very good indication on the intelligence of fans.... Alot of people just go crazy as fuck and are (quite) normal people outside of it ! Do you imagine people at Obscene Extreme being like that in everyday life ?
lol exactly festivals aren't book club gatherings they're places designed for you to go apeshit.
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Dark†SymphonY
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16.03.2013 at 19:15
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I think this is an interesting topic, I knew a girl from my secondary/high school, and she listened to metal (mostly heavy/thrash and death metal) and she graduated with high grades in nearly all of her subjects. I listened to metal in half of my time in school and mostly studied/revised at home with metal music playing.
On the other hand, I have worked with people who listen to music from popular music charts who are fricking stupid. It kinda works either way in my opinion.
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16.03.2013 at 19:20
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Written by Dark†SymphonY on 16.03.2013 at 19:15
I think this is an interesting topic, I knew a girl from my secondary/high school, and she listened to metal (mostly heavy/thrash and death metal) and she graduated with high grades in nearly all of her subjects. I listened to metal in half of my time in school and mostly studied/revised at home with metal music playing.
On the other hand, I have worked with people who listen to music from popular music charts who are fricking stupid. It kinda works either way in my opinion.
yeah that's what I meant.
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nasmith
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17.03.2013 at 05:39
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Written by Ceddybu on 16.03.2013 at 19:06
Written by nasmith on 16.03.2013 at 08:21
TBH I think that bands that play technical metal (tech death, prog, etc.) have as much intellectual legitimacy as jazz musicians in at least the skill and usually creativity required to make the music.
On the other hand, experimental/avant-garde bands can be seen as even more intellectual in the way they push the boundary of metal and not just music (because metal has been pushing the boundaries of music further and further since the beginning ). For example, Sunn O))), who play drone metal, try to play minimalist guitar music played so loudly that it gives the audience a drowsy feeling, kind of like meditation (thus it's no surprise that they get a lot of hipsters at their shows as well as metalheads). That's the kind of stuff that makes you think: Is this metal? is this even music? I personally would be interested in going to a gig by them as much as a death metal gig.
I think playing technical death metal just requires a good understanding of your instrument and good (surprise) technique. I don't think that has any inherent connection to intelligence, just how much you practice and push yourself. And in terms of creativity a lot of tech deaths bands really aren't all too creative. A lot of tech death soloing is guitar-jerking.
I mean, people have been citing honors students who listen to metal as a measure of their intelligence, when in reality the same can be said about grades in school. If you push your ass off to get good grades, then you can do it even if you don't have as high of intelligence per se than that Einstein who sits in the back of the room and daydreams about quantum physics instead of paying attention to the history class he's failing.
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Grimskallen
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24.03.2013 at 21:44
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I think the term metalhead or metal fan doesn't do justice to the various people contained in it.
There's idiots as well as geniuses within the realm of metal, and a lot more comes into play than just being a metal fan.
It depends where you are from, what kind of metal you're into and much more. I know this sounds like stereotyping, but honestly though... shit matters.
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