Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck elitePosts: 40071 |
The first spot-on review of this album I have read. All others were praising it into high heaven whilst I had the exact same feelings about this one as you (apparently)
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck elitePosts: 40071 |
Oh btw, I do find it a slight imrpovement over theior previous one which totally bored me to tears and death.
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Silent Creeper Senile Veteran
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02.12.2009 - 23:25Rating: 8
I think that this album in natural continuation of their previous album The Great Cold Distance... While I agree with you, that it isn't on the same level as mentioned previous album, I think it is not "too depressive to be any fun but not haunting enough to be enjoyable". It is true that album is not haunting but it is enjoyable because of other factors... I also think that their kind of "depressivness" cannot be compared to emo "depressivness", same as doom metal "depressivness" cannot be compared with emo or emo with grunge etc... But if this album is "based" on the style of the previous one, the next one will probably have to be something completly new if they want to stay fresh, so I also agree on the lack of originality but I wouldn't be that harsh. Expressed in numbers: 8.5 for me overall.
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oroboros
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Nothing else needed to be said....i wanted to like the album..but something jus didnt feel right...now i knw wat it was..
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Damned-In-Black
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03.12.2009 - 11:46Rating: 6
Have to agree with Marcel - actually I was thinking the exact same words as I read the review - spot on. Particularly the first three paragraphs. My first impressions didn't entice me to listen repeatedly so I put it aside a week or two. Came back to it for a number of spins yesterday and today because they're one of my favourite bands, but repeated listening has only reinforced my initial impression.
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"depressive cliché" totally agree but I think even this album cant make you depress. its just a copy of recently albums but has a nice name a artwork. it has made me disapointed to be honest.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck elitePosts: 40071 |
Written by Guest on 03.12.2009 at 13:22
So what i think is, that the problems people have with this record, are because of not understanging the soundscape of Katatonia or not playing it enough.
Why do people always assume that because someone finds an album meandering, boring etc. it is because they don't so-called understand the soundscapes or haven't played the album enough? Sorry, but there is nothing to understand about Katatonia's soundscapes cause they are extremely shallow and easy to grasp. And secondly... not having played the album enough? I have kept track and I have played the album 43 times now and imo it only gets more boring and meandering with each subsequent listen. My first impression was much more positive than the one I hold now.
Katatonia's music for me actually never was growing music at all. ALL of their albums can be fathomed within three listens at most. It isn't the most deep music around imo. Especially on their newer material they have grown more shallow than before.
The main problem with this album is that when I listen to all the tracks apart from each other they are very nice but when listening to the album as a whole it gets immensely boring. I wish they had released 13 singles of it instead of one album.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino staffPosts: 18274 |
03.12.2009 - 17:20Rating: 6
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.12.2009 at 23:21
Oh btw, I do find it a slight imrpovement over theior previous one which totally bored me to tears and death.
I have a question... I actually liked the previous one quite a lot, while far from being one of the best it's still very enjoyable for me... So yeah, Do you think that I could like the new album? In what way it is an improvement?
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck elitePosts: 40071 |
Written by X-Ray Rod on 03.12.2009 at 17:20
I have a question... I actually liked the previous one quite a lot, while far from being one of the best it's still very enjoyable for me... So yeah, Do you think that I could like the new album? In what way it is an improvement?
Most people who like the previous one really like this one. This one is a little more varied (though only marginally and still borign as fuck imo) and has a darker atmosphere to it.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino staffPosts: 18274 |
03.12.2009 - 17:31Rating: 6
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 03.12.2009 at 17:25
Most people who like the previous one really like this one. This one is a little more varied (though only marginally and still borign as fuck imo) and has a darker atmosphere to it.
Seems fair enough, and I'll be sure to get the Swedish version since I saw it at the store and it was a very nice package... Although I still believe it's a bad artowrk and they should've use the one with the moon ín the middle of the city.
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White Metal
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Compared to the great cold distance , this one is lame , I agree with ur review and rating , well written and honest .
I'm really disappointed especially with all the hype that came before this one .
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Jeff Freaky Admin elitePosts: 7078 |
03.12.2009 - 19:11Rating: 7
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Finally one good review yes!
I'm a big Katatonia fan, all their period, but this album album is just average and boring. I'm sorry I don't understand how people praise it so much, really I can't understand.
And btw, Marcel, I didn't find the previous one so good at first but with time it was not so bad, this one is just so so nothing more.
@Mr Doctor: you should listen to all their albums before The Great Cold Distance, that's great really.
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Sunioj
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03.12.2009 - 19:16Rating: 9
This is album is a helluva lot better than their previous album. To be honest, I found this to be my favorite album of theirs and also to be very catchy in all aspects. Yeah, I was never huge on their prior - sue me.
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MetalManic
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03.12.2009 - 20:36Rating: 8
Written by Jeff on 03.12.2009 at 19:11
Finally one good review yes!
I'm a big Katatonia fan, all their period, but this album album is just average and boring. I'm sorry I don't understand how people praise it so much, really I can't understand.
And btw, Marcel, I didn't find the previous one so good at first but with time it was not so bad, this one is just so so nothing more.
@Mr Doctor: you should listen to all their albums before The Great Cold Distance, that's great really.
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Daniell _爱情_ elitePosts: 6061 |
03.12.2009 - 21:12Rating: 8
Katatonia moves away from metal more and more with each new release. I think the metal genre was too narrow for them, and they want to expand their sound. "Night Is the New Day" is the expansion of their sound towards very enticing directions. Most songs are quite delicate, especially when one compares them to Katatonia's older releases. Heavy, distorted guitars are now one of the elements of Katatonia's sound, not the dominating part. And you know what, I don't miss them in songs like "Departer".
I love this album. And I find it really great that there are such varied reactions to it. There's more to this music than meets the ear.
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A good review, really. Music is dull and completely uninspiring and this has been a boring and depressive metal year since it almost had no decent album for like 11 months. Awful. It's not the "metal" that lacks in here, it's the music itself. A 7? Yes, the right mark for this record.
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Daniell _爱情_ elitePosts: 6061 |
03.12.2009 - 21:40Rating: 8
In alphabetical order:
Ajattara, Arghoslent, Artillery, Behemoth, Candlemass, Dream Theater, Drudkh, Forsaken, Hollenthon, Immortal, Isole, Kalisia, Katatonia, Kreator, Mastodon, Megadeth, My Dying Bride, Procession, Samael, Slayer.
Plenty of good albums this year...
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VPeter
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 03.12.2009 at 14:54
Written by Guest on 03.12.2009 at 13:22
So what i think is, that the problems people have with this record, are because of not understanging the soundscape of Katatonia or not playing it enough.
Why do people always assume that because someone finds an album meandering, boring etc. it is because they don't so-called understand the soundscapes or haven't played the album enough? Sorry, but there is nothing to understand about Katatonia's soundscapes cause they are extremely shallow and easy to grasp. And secondly... not having played the album enough? I have kept track and I have played the album 43 times now and imo it only gets more boring and meandering with each subsequent listen. My first impression was much more positive than the one I hold now.
Katatonia's music for me actually never was growing music at all. ALL of their albums can be fathomed within three listens at most. It isn't the most deep music around imo. Especially on their newer material they have grown more shallow than before.
The main problem with this album is that when I listen to all the tracks apart from each other they are very nice but when listening to the album as a whole it gets immensely boring. I wish they had released 13 singles of it instead of one album.
Check his very objective voting of Katatonia.
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ioannisk
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03.12.2009 - 22:51Rating: 8
You have pointed it very accurately...but still this band is much better than any other one you'll find out there, and this album has some really great songs. the previous one raised the barrier too high!!!so this is worse only by comparison...an 8/10 for me! songs like the longest year, idle blood, nephilim an onward to battle are majestic!!!
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IronAngel
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04.12.2009 - 00:04Rating: 7
For the most part, I agree with Dane. Well, I think this is an improvement from TGCD, which was just noisy and boring. This one has some good moments, like Nephilim, but it's overall rather undistinguished. It's a pretty nice album, but nowhere near their best work, or that of many other bands. It feels too neat and clean, with none of that emotional edge.
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ravendeath
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04.12.2009 - 00:51Rating: 10
I completely agree with Array! 10/10. Amazing piece of art. Please reviewers, if you don't understand this kind music or simply can't get into it don't write such shity reviews.
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Damned-In-Black
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04.12.2009 - 01:35Rating: 6
Written by ravendeath on 04.12.2009 at 00:51
I completely agree with Array! 10/10. Amazing piece of art. Please reviewers, if you don't understand this kind music or simply can't get into it don't write such shity reviews.
As the reviewer explained that they're a big fan of the previous album, which is essentially the same kind of music as this one - calling your comment ridiculous would be a fair assessment. As was noted earlier, music isn't usually all that difficult to 'get' - and Katatonia is not one of the exceptions to this rule. And I'm not calling them shallow. I'm a huge fan of the band and have been for years, but this is the first release of theirs that I'm not very fond of. It has nothing to do with being unable to understand their music, quite obviously.
@Pétur: Though that is probably a bit over the top, it is conceivable he considers all of their stuff to be that worthy - and if so there's nothing wrong with that. Also, voting should be (and is, no matter what you attempt) subjective, not objective.
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Jason W. Razorbliss staffPosts: 3523 |
04.12.2009 - 06:31Rating: 7
Smart review Dane, I'd give it an identical rating as well. "Liberation" is the only track I've cared for outside of a passing interest, though yeah, you're right, the musicianship is of high caliber. This disc is just not that interesting for me either in the end. All I hear is everything I expected to hear and nothing else, or new.
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BudDa elitePosts: 887 |
I felt the same way too the first time I spun this album. I found it boring, mundane and really not offering much to what Katatonia had already done. Probably coz I had very high expectations for "Night is the New Day" and also probably coz after listening to forsaker..I thot Katatonia could do no wrong..
I don't think this album offers anything new to Katatonia fans..but I felt the album is a good album none the less. It has great stand out individual tracks like the aformentioned forsaker, Onward into Battle and the opening of Day and then the Shade is engraved in my brain
I didn't find anything wrong with the lyrics. I thot they were a great fit to the album. Overrall I would give this record an 8
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Fat & Sassy! elitePosts: 3857 |
The handful of songs I've heard by this band have sounded fairly generic to me... Like a sadder Breaking Benjamin. Is all their stuff like this? :/
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Wes
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04.12.2009 - 13:08Rating: 9
Seems like it's just different music.
I hated all previous Katatonia, yet I love Night is The New Day.
I DO NOT like emo, I don't like the cure either.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino staffPosts: 18274 |
04.12.2009 - 13:37Rating: 6
Written by Jeff on 03.12.2009 at 19:11
@Mr Doctor: you should listen to all their albums before The Great Cold Distance, that's great really.
I've listened to all their albums already. Except this one of course since I'm notreally into downloading, especially this kind of stuff that is too easy to buy..
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enumaelis
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04.12.2009 - 16:45Rating: 4
I think the 2 first songs are quite good, very in the vein of their previous, but from the 3rd it is getting a bit boring finally. While I am listening I am thinking "I have heard this before.. but it was like more inspired or Idk".
I realise that sometimes it is like a sacrilege for some people to say that an album of "typical well-considered" bands is not good or inspired, and many of those fans would say "you have no idea" or "you dont understand this music". This is simply the worst album Katatonia made in my opinion (and I LOVE The Great Cold Distance, just saying that to not to make a different idea about if I like more or less the old Katatonia).
So, mostly I agree with the review.
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Slayer666
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04.12.2009 - 17:25Rating: 8
I can't say I agree so much with the rating (seeing as how a great number of medicore albums have much better grades), but the review is good. For me, this is their best since "Discouraged Ones", but it does suffer from inconsistancy. While some songs are just plain awesome, others are tiresome and boring.
Anyway, my rating would be around 8.0. I'd just love to see an album filled awesome songs such as "Forsaker".
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Sunioj
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04.12.2009 - 19:02Rating: 9
Written by Wes on 04.12.2009 at 13:08
Seems like it's just different music.
I hated all previous Katatonia, yet I love Night is The New Day.
I DO NOT like emo, I don't like the cure either.
I'm with you on that one.. even though I don't hate their previous stuff, this one just caught my attention a lot more.
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