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Posted by Angelic Storm on 20.08.2010 at 01:31
Written by vezzy on 20.08.2010 at 00:58
Actually, technical... well, I'm not gonna go on to describe that, but it's kind of hard to see how it isn't objective. Like compare, Neurom-okay fine, compare Atheist to Slayer. Original, well, like I said, if it's very familiar and bland... not high on that ladder. Personally, I don't think brutality or if you insist br00tality (when it comes to garage BDM losers) is very heavy by itself, but it definitely is if compared to a generic riff soaked and faded in keyboard melody (yes, I did just reference Scar Symmetry, get over it). I agree on it being hard to be original nowadays though, the field is getting ever closer to being completely harvested. Doesn't mean we shouldn't be honest about it.


I never said it couldn't be objective. Just that it CAN be, and often is, subjective. Athiest are of course, much more technical than Slayer. I dont think there is a single person that would try and argue otherwise. Well, Waking The Cadaver are more brutal than Scar Symmetry, but that doesnt make them "better". At least not to my ears anyways. "heavier" doesn't equate to "better". As for SC being "generic", that is purely an opinion, and I'd hardly allow it to affect my fondness for the band. lol Originality is increasingly harder to find in metal than it's ever been before. I see originality as a bonus, rather than it being a deciding factor in whether I like a band or not.

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Well, from what I've argued (and yes, trolled in way or another, but not blatant stupid trolling, more like hostile snide), it always degenerates (huh, did I say evolve?) into fights. I think it's actually kind of natural. People don't like to see their favorite bands attacked (or in others' eyes exposing them for what they are), so they respond in a rage-like manner. Although, I guess the respect thing I, in particular haven't been doing very well. Either way, I really think respect is far-fetched. I just vehemently state and defend. Inevitably arguments will happen.


I dont think it's natural at all, at least not for me. If someone bashes a band I like, then that is their right, and I see that they merely have a different opinion to me, which is absolutely fine. Only fanboys/girls and some elitists respond in a rage like manner. As those people generally have major issues accepting views on metal/music that deviate from their own. Disagreeing is inevitable, but launching personal attacks. and flying off the handle is a different thing entirely. I dont think its far fetched at all that you can be respectful of other's musical tastes, even if you dont share them yourself.

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Though in some cases, like that Scar Symmetry argument, it was started for that sole reason, to argue. And we all had fun, so who cares?


Fun? That's not the word I'd have used to describe it.

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I haven't gone as far as label tastes as inferior (have I?), but at times I get cynical about the favorite bands and the certain position [anti-tr00ist or whatever at all] the person tries to hold.


I think you'll find that you have. The only time Im cynical about an "anti tr00ist" position, is when its coming from fanboys who cant accept that some people just genuinely dont like something their fave band has done. (thereby accusing all criticisers of being "tr00ist") But that is certainly not my stance. And like Ive said, even some elitists have expressed distaste at that mindset. I think most metal fans dislike tr00ists, aside from tr00ists themselves. lol


I'd like to apologise for taking part in the derailing of this thread, and I think if this particular conversation is going to be continued, it should be done so elsewhere. xD



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  24.03.2016 at 06:51
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Written by Bad English on 13.10.2014 at 14:34

He deleted it

Alright!! How about yours ?


I have no camera

Please post u pic
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  24.03.2016 at 06:52
Written by Paw!! on 24.03.2016 at 06:51

Written by Bad English on 13.10.2014 at 19:32

Written by FUCK Vietnam on 13.10.2014 at 19:30

Written by Bad English on 13.10.2014 at 14:34

He deleted it

Alright!! How about yours ?


I have no camera

Please post u pic


they were there, now on fb
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  24.03.2016 at 06:53
Written by no one on 13.10.2014 at 20:23

Written by Bad English on 13.10.2014 at 14:34

He deleted it


no i didn't, it was on there last night, i'm pretty sure that's an ms fuck up....ill try again


This is you? cool pic man
Paw!!

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  24.03.2016 at 06:54
Written by Bad English on 24.03.2016 at 06:52

Written by Paw!! on 24.03.2016 at 06:51

Written by Bad English on 13.10.2014 at 19:32

Written by FUCK Vietnam on 13.10.2014 at 19:30

Written by Bad English on 13.10.2014 at 14:34

He deleted it

Alright!! How about yours ?


I have no camera

Please post u pic


they were there, now on fb

Ok ok, I wont ask your fb, cause you nver ever give it.
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  24.03.2016 at 08:03
Written by Paw!! on 24.03.2016 at 06:53


This is you? cool pic man


yeah, could you delete that post or pic?, i'm not really into pics of myself on the net.
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  24.03.2016 at 09:05
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  24.03.2016 at 11:10
Written by no one on 24.03.2016 at 08:03

Written by Paw!! on 24.03.2016 at 06:53


This is you? cool pic man


yeah, could you delete that post or pic?, i'm not really into pics of myself on the net.

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  24.03.2016 at 16:26
Fuuuu. If I was here earlier I could've seen how no one looked like

I bet he looks like a talking dildo or a penis
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  24.03.2016 at 18:14
Written by Karlabos on 24.03.2016 at 16:26

I bet he looks like a talking dildo or a penis

yes he is ...
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