Written by Yasmine on 20.05.2011 at 05:51

Written by Starchild on 18.05.2011 at 13:32

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 18.05.2011 at 11:46

the first Wintersun album is so immensely average.

thx for enlightening us all ..and rating based on almost thousand people also proves that statement.

Appealing to popularity is NOT a good idea, however the 1st album is great fusing the best of metal with neo-classical work that creates not only a wonderful atmosphere, but brilliant works of art rather than just a few drudging riffs that could only intoxicate a caveman.

Well, that's ultimately just your opinion too, ain't it?
The only thing their debut creates for me is the "Good lord, how much cheese is too much?" kind of feeling.
Brilliant work of art... sure, if you like the intro music from Pokemon or Dragon Ball.

Written by Slayer666 on 20.05.2011 at 21:43

Written by Yasmine on 20.05.2011 at 05:51

Written by Starchild on 18.05.2011 at 13:32

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 18.05.2011 at 11:46

the first Wintersun album is so immensely average.

thx for enlightening us all ..and rating based on almost thousand people also proves that statement.

Appealing to popularity is NOT a good idea, however the 1st album is great fusing the best of metal with neo-classical work that creates not only a wonderful atmosphere, but brilliant works of art rather than just a few drudging riffs that could only intoxicate a caveman.

Well, that's ultimately just your opinion too, ain't it?
The only thing their debut creates for me is the "Good lord, how much cheese is too much?" kind of feeling.
Brilliant work of art... sure, if you like the intro music from Pokemon or Dragon Ball.

No, that is a fact, IT IS BASED on classical music, even if you don't like it.
Cheese is just a man's way of saying "OMG I'll be embarassed if another dude catches me doing this".

Written by Yasmine on 20.05.2011 at 21:49

Written by Slayer666 on 20.05.2011 at 21:43

Written by Yasmine on 20.05.2011 at 05:51

Written by Starchild on 18.05.2011 at 13:32

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 18.05.2011 at 11:46

the first Wintersun album is so immensely average.

thx for enlightening us all ..and rating based on almost thousand people also proves that statement.

Appealing to popularity is NOT a good idea, however the 1st album is great fusing the best of metal with neo-classical work that creates not only a wonderful atmosphere, but brilliant works of art rather than just a few drudging riffs that could only intoxicate a caveman.

Well, that's ultimately just your opinion too, ain't it?
The only thing their debut creates for me is the "Good lord, how much cheese is too much?" kind of feeling.
Brilliant work of art... sure, if you like the intro music from Pokemon or Dragon Ball.

No, that is a fact, IT IS BASED on classical music, even if you don't like it.
Cheese is just a man's way of saying "OMG I'll be embarassed if another dude catches me doing this".

Since I'm not too big on neo-classical, or classical for that matter, I've no idea if it's based on it or not (but, if I was to guess, I'd say not). Anyway, that's not what I was referring to. I was referring to the "fusing best of metal" and "creating a wonderful atmosphere and a work of art" parts.
Haha, hardly. Cheese is my way of saying that this is a metal equivalent of crappy anime intro music.

Written by Slayer666 on 20.05.2011 at 21:43

if you like the intro music from Pokemon or Dragon Ball.

Written by Slayer666 on 20.05.2011 at 23:10


is a metal equivalent of crappy anime intro music.

If i would say to you that your Black Metal is equivalent of crappy Vampires Everywhere! very stupid yes?

Well I hope you realize of your stupidity.

Written by Slayer666 on 20.05.2011 at 23:10


Since I'm not too big on neo-classical, or classical for that matter, I've no idea if it's based on it or not (but, if I was to guess, I'd say not). Anyway, that's not what I was referring to. I was referring to the "fusing best of metal" and "creating a wonderful atmosphere and a work of art" parts.
Haha, hardly. Cheese is my way of saying that this is a metal equivalent of crappy anime intro music.

No need to guess, I play a ton of classical myself and love the stuff, and I've had theory etc. It's based on classical. If Mozart, and Vivaldi sound like "Pokemon" (Which you say is cheese, but I am willing to bet you watch it), then you have some serious tone deaf issues. I think you hear what you wanna hear.

He likes Cradle of Filth, Burzum, Mayhem and a ton of other crap that's the metal version of a single celled organism. lol

Everyone either has way too high expectations for this album or way too low expectations. The fact is, until it is released there's no reason to argue about it.

Written by Yasmine on 21.05.2011 at 00:42

Written by Slayer666 on 20.05.2011 at 23:10


Since I'm not too big on neo-classical, or classical for that matter, I've no idea if it's based on it or not (but, if I was to guess, I'd say not). Anyway, that's not what I was referring to. I was referring to the "fusing best of metal" and "creating a wonderful atmosphere and a work of art" parts.
Haha, hardly. Cheese is my way of saying that this is a metal equivalent of crappy anime intro music.

No need to guess, I play a ton of classical myself and love the stuff, and I've had theory etc. It's based on classical. If Mozart, and Vivaldi sound like "Pokemon" (Which you say is cheese, but I am willing to bet you watch it), then you have some serious tone deaf issues. I think you hear what you wanna hear.

He likes Cradle of Filth, Burzum, Mayhem and a ton of other crap that's the metal version of a single celled organism. lol

Are you honestly comparing Wintersun to Mozart and Vivaldi? Wow, I may not know too much about classical, but I've heard a lot from both of them. Just enough to know that saying Wintersun is equal to them is kinda stupid.

But, then again, if you think that Mayhem's Ordo Ad Chao or Cradle's Cruelty and The Beast is the metal version of a single celled organism, I guess you and I will never be on the same page when music is concerned.

And just like a lot of other Wintersun fans, you are extremely defensive when criticism is directed their way. I already foresee this discussion turning into a bunch of personal insults that you'll without a doubt throw at me, since you don't know a different way of dealing with people having different opinions than you. I know this for a fact, I just have to look up some of your other posts in a couple of threads.
With that in mind, I'm done trying to have a discussion here. See ya in some other thread.

The very album title is a joke on you people who think about it too damn much. Until it's released, find more bands to enjoy.
Personally i know i'll love it, whether it lives up to the last album or not, I ALREADY love it 'cause it's baffled and offended so many people already... for no damn reason.
That aside I do believe it will be worth the trouble, not to mention one of the only metal albums to date to make a killing on Album sales.

LOL! If this album does not drop by June, Devin Townsend will officially have released 8 albums in the time it has taking to release "time". seriously, is this a joke.

New song is up on youtube, they played The Way Of The Fire live, just saying.

I will die before having the chance of listening to this album... And I'm 17...

I like Wintersun.

It's about TIME!!!

It's september still on?

Yes maybe 2053

Written by Zap on 21.05.2011 at 13:20

Everyone either has way too high expectations for this album or way too low expectations. The fact is, until it is released there's no reason to argue about it.

+1

Written by roman2914 on 31.07.2011 at 14:04

Yes maybe 2053

2053...GREAT!!!!!!
I thought it was coming out in 2534
I expect something GODLY!!!
This will either be a top 10 greatest album or a top 10 worst album.

Written by Guest on 15.08.2011 at 19:16

Written by roman2914 on 31.07.2011 at 14:04

Yes maybe 2053

2053...GREAT!!!!!!
I thought it was coming out in 2534
I expect something GODLY!!!
This will either be a top 10 greatest album or a top 10 worst album.

I think it will just be Decent like the first album, the expectations are waaaay to high now so it is destined to be more over hyped than the first, (Which Jari Deserves some kind of medal for doing)

Written by @gent_-_orange on 15.08.2011 at 19:48

Written by Guest on 15.08.2011 at 19:16

Written by roman2914 on 31.07.2011 at 14:04

Yes maybe 2053

2053...GREAT!!!!!!
I thought it was coming out in 2534
I expect something GODLY!!!
This will either be a top 10 greatest album or a top 10 worst album.

I think it will just be Decent like the first album, the expectations are waaaay to high now so it is destined to be more over hyped than the first, (Which Jari Deserves some kind of medal for doing)

It needs to be great. The hype is ......... GIGANTIC!!!!

The new song sounds great, but my expectations for this album are low. I don't think it will ever have the same effect on me that the first album had. Hopefully it's still a good album though.

This album is going to suck ferret balls.. just wait and see.

Is the december 2011 release date actually correct?

Written by SODOM666 on 23.08.2011 at 23:42
Is the december 2011 release date actually correct?

No, it's what we consider a distant release date. As we near November (or maybe October) and there's still no word on the release date, we'll push it back to early 2012.

Written by Troy Killjoy on 23.08.2011 at 23:54

Written by SODOM666 on 23.08.2011 at 23:42
Is the december 2011 release date actually correct?

No, it's what we consider a distant release date. As we near November (or maybe October) and there's still no word on the release date, we'll push it back to early 2012.

Too bad, that got my hopes up.

Written by Troy Killjoy on 23.08.2011 at 23:54

Written by SODOM666 on 23.08.2011 at 23:42
Is the december 2011 release date actually correct?

No, it's what we consider a distant release date. As we near November (or maybe October) and there's still no word on the release date, we'll push it back to early 2012.

Wouldn't it be funny, nay... gut-wrenchingly hilarious, if this album turned out to be a total letdown?

Well, for me it would be.

90% of albums considered to be letdowns are so because people have huge expectations about them. Even if this album is a masterpiece, I'm sure lots of us will be disappointed, since it's presently the most anticipated metal album and has been so for 7 years. "The Way of the Fire" sounds awesome, though.

I always wonder wat Jari is doing at the moment. Is he actually working on it? Right now?