Written by X-Ray Rod on 09.02.2011 at 18:46

Written by Guest on 09.02.2011 at 18:35

Can't really say otherwise, I don't know too much about the genre, what defines extreme doom?

Well, out of the three you mentioned I would say that Ahab is a bit more extreme. But that's why I love about Doom you know... the meaning of extreme is a bit blurry and since Doom is a genre heavily based on atmosphere... It depends if the atmosphere is extreme to you.

I personally see Ahabs debut to be quite extreme, I really felt the pressure of the ocean and the fearful beast that was the white whale... Not to mention that I can't swim very well and I'm a bit scared about drowning and stuff so I have deep respect for the ocean... So for me that album was a bit of a schock at first, in the good sense of the word.

I wouldn't see Shape Of Despair as extreme due to the extremely beautiful atmosphere (imo) that SOD creates, it's a sad one indeed but very pretty and elegant. I don't really like STS but they remains me to some My Dying Bride stuff and both bands seems to safe and not heavy to create a dangerous feeling of doom.

Probably that's the way I would put it: I don't feel the DOOM... That feeling when you know you have lost the battle that is life... I don't really feel it in those two bands for example, probably Shape Of Despair but they do it in a pretty way But bands like Catacombs, Esoteric, Ahab, Acid Bath, Bloody Panda, Dolorian, Early Katatonia, Khanate among others really make you feel tiny. But that's just me.

Ah I see where you're coming from, why I really like STS is for that very reason: they are a light melodic doom band. I found their albums to be on quite a high level musically, but I see that isn't really contigent with some of the other examples of extreme doom bands.

I think the qualifier "extreme doom" is a little useless, personally. There are substyles in doom, and they seem more useful in describing and categorizing the music. Traditional, funeral, drone etc. are all pretty clear. But there are funeral doom bands that sound quite melodic, and even the MS Awards has doom/death in both the vanilla and the extreme categories. The extreme/vanilla distinction doesn't respect subgenre boundaries, leading us to use two sets of categorizing standards. And that's unnecessary baggage, IMO.

To be honest, I think the separation into "melodic" and "extreme" metal is too arbitrary to be useful on the grander scale, and doom is just a specific example of that. In fact, I think the tag is so popular on MS because the forum is seperated into Melodic and Extreme subcategories. It's not the only reason, but that has to be part of it because the distinction is way more common here than elsewhere.

Esoteric, Evoken, Astral Sleep, Before The Rain, Black Wreath, Cebren-Khal, Consummatum Est, Darkflight, Dead In The Water, Desire, Dictator, Dissolving Of Prodigy, Dusk, Fall Of Empyrean, Forest Of Shadows, Forest Stream, Frailty, Grívf, Mourning Lenore, Kimaera, Laudanum, Mistress Of The Dead, Encoffination, Monolithe, Morgion, Ordog, Pantheist, Process Of Guilt, Persistence In Mourning, Profetus, Sadael, Shattered Hope, Skepticism, Stabat Mater, YOB...

I haven't put everything in, cause I couldn't be bothered... Some might already be in Marcel's list... and some might not be that extreme...

Colosseum, the first three albums simply kills

Woebegone Obscured and their album Deathstination (yes, the album name is ridiculous). They play some really raw and good blackened Funeral Doom.

Written by (((O))) on 02.06.2011 at 16:38

Woebegone Obscured and their album Deathstination (yes, the album name is ridiculous). They play some really raw and good blackened Funeral Doom.

indeed a really enjoyable album by this Danish band.

Funeral, Ahab, Orphaned Land's two first albums, Bongzilla, High on Fire

How about Virgin Black?

Written by Guest on 13.06.2011 at 05:05

How about Virgin Black?

Nope. They are more Gothic Doom than anything else.

Written by ß on 14.06.2011 at 01:55

Written by Guest on 13.06.2011 at 05:05

How about Virgin Black?

Nope. They are more Gothic Doom than anything else.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgZfxq2tIcY

They're doom and they use harsh vocals. That's extreme to me.

You guys should check this out. Death/Doom, really damn good.

http://ophis.bandcamp.com/album/withered-shades

Written by Guest on 14.06.2011 at 06:44

They're doom and they use harsh vocals. That's extreme to me.

Would only consider them extreme doom in their last album, not otherwise.

Written by The Turbanator on 02.07.2012 at 11:15

You guys should check this out. Death/Doom, really damn good.

http://ophis.bandcamp.com/album/withered-shades

You're extremely late to the party

Hell, the album was even nominated for best extreme doom album here at MS in 2010 where it came in second

Btw they have two new songs out on their split with Officium Triste. It was released not too long ago.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.07.2012 at 13:58

Written by The Turbanator on 02.07.2012 at 11:15

You guys should check this out. Death/Doom, really damn good.

http://ophis.bandcamp.com/album/withered-shades

You're extremely late to the party

Hell, the album was even nominated for best extreme doom album here at MS in 2010 where it came in second

Btw they have two new songs out on their split with Officium Triste. It was released not too long ago.

Haha sorry. Just found out about them. Really good stuff! Do you have link for their new songs?

Written by The Turbanator on 02.07.2012 at 14:35



Haha sorry. Just found out about them. Really good stuff! Do you have link for their new songs?

Nope. Only heard both of them live and like I said they are featured on the split with Officium Triste which can by order via info@officiumtriste.com or via the label that released it Memento Mori

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.07.2012 at 14:44

Written by The Turbanator on 02.07.2012 at 14:35



Haha sorry. Just found out about them. Really good stuff! Do you have link for their new songs?

Nope. Only heard both of them live and like I said they are featured on the split with Officium Triste which can by order via info@officiumtriste.com or via the label that released it Memento Mori

ah hoped that they'd post their songs online or something. But anyway, cheers buddy!

Written by The Turbanator on 02.07.2012 at 14:55


ah hoped that they'd post their songs online or something. But anyway, cheers buddy!

Maybe their are live recordings of them on youtube.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.07.2012 at 14:57

Maybe their are live recordings of them on youtube.

Their?

Written by Guest on 02.07.2012 at 15:26

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.07.2012 at 14:57

Maybe their are live recordings of them on youtube.

Their?

aaaaarrrrrggggggghhhhhhhh been up since 9 a.m. after a very short night (only two hours of sleep). That's the only explanation I can give, or K7 has taken over possession of my fingers once again.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.07.2012 at 15:27


aaaaarrrrrggggggghhhhhhhh been up since 9 a.m. after a very short night (only two hours of sleep). That's the only explanation I can give, or K7 has taken over possession of my fingers once again.

I can empathise, I too have only had two hours sleep (from 11am to 1pm after being up all night for no reason).

Written by Guest on 02.07.2012 at 15:28

I can empathise, I too have only had two hours sleep (from 11am to 1pm after being up all night for no reason).

But I still should of checked what I wrote

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.07.2012 at 15:31



But I still should of checked what I wrote

*facepalm*

Should *HAVE!

You need sleep asap Marcel

Written by Guest on 02.07.2012 at 15:34

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.07.2012 at 15:31



But I still should of checked what I wrote

*facepalm*

Should *HAVE!

You need sleep asap Marcel

aha that one I put in there to see if you poicked up on it just like on the their/there one earlier. And thank God you did.

Btw I keep seeing that should of stuff surface more and more here on MS and especially in posts by native speakers of English, such as Kesh. My God there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to write that sort of eyesore

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.07.2012 at 15:36

aha that one I put in there to see if you poicked up on it just like on the their/there one earlier. And thank God you did.

Btw I keep seeing that should of stuff surface more and more here on MS and especially in posts by native speakers of English, such as Kesh. My God there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to write that sort of eyesore

Yeah yeah... I bet ;]

It annoys me when people say it out loud as well, I always correct them if they do.

Written by Guest on 02.07.2012 at 15:37


It annoys me when people say it out loud as well, I always correct them if they do.

I just punch them in the face. Because "should've" does not even sound like "should of" unlike "their" and "there"

Or "it's" and "its"

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.07.2012 at 15:39


I just punch them in the face. Because "should've" does not even sound like "should of" unlike "their" and "there"

I look forward to the impending manslaughter case (even though you would be well within your right to slug someone for such an indiscretion).

Written by Guest on 02.07.2012 at 15:40

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.07.2012 at 15:39


I just punch them in the face. Because "should've" does not even sound like "should of" unlike "their" and "there"

I look forward to the impending manslaughter case (even though you would be well within your right to slug someone for such an indiscretion).

to stay on topic, I will hit them extremely slowly But I am sure I will get off without even a fine due to my metal fanbase

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.07.2012 at 15:43

But I am sure I will get off without even a fine due to my metal fanbase

easily!

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.07.2012 at 15:39

Written by Guest on 02.07.2012 at 15:37


It annoys me when people say it out loud as well, I always correct them if they do.

I just punch them in the face. Because "should've" does not even sound like "should of" unlike "their" and "there"

Hmmm people confuse should've with should of?? How is that even possible? Should of wouldn't even make sense.