Wintersun - Another News Update
As promised by drummer Kai Hahto last weekend, an official update from the Wintersun camp has hit the interwebs. Here goes:
"Hi everyone! It's been a while.
I've been working very hard with the synths & orchestrations and I can finally say that I'm feeling very positive about finishing this long and gruesome task by Christmas. So hopefully around the end of December I can finally start mixing the album. I still have a few vocal parts unfinished, but I will be singing them meanwhile I'm mixing.
The only problem about the mixing is that my current computer gear simply cannot handle these insanely huge projects. And the other problem is that I have no money for new gear. So we have discussed about this problem with our label & management and they have agreed to help us with an advance to buy new and more powerful computer gear, but only if we agree to play a few shows and show people that Wintersun is still alive. So after carefully weighting all the different possibilies, we think we need to play these shows to help the completion of the album.
The shows will be for now: Metalfest (3 shows: Helvetia, Austria, Germany) and Metalcamp (1 show).
There's lot of work and preparation to do for these shows, 'cause we have to update our live gear as well, sort out technical difficulties and of course rehearse the songs. This will most likely affect negatively with the mixing schedule, so I can't give any predictions with that yet. I also need to try out the new computer gear first and see how it handles these projects. The software is still not 64-bit, so the "infamous 4GB RAM limit" might also be a problem with the mixing, since these projects already eat about 3GB without any plugins. But I will do my best to overcome this challenge the fastest way I can.
And no worries, these shows will definitely not be cancelled. So we are looking forward to you guys, see you at the gigs! Who knows, we might even play a one new riff... I mean a song!
"
[Also thanks to amarchand and moe5512 for sending in this news!]
"Hi everyone! It's been a while.
I've been working very hard with the synths & orchestrations and I can finally say that I'm feeling very positive about finishing this long and gruesome task by Christmas. So hopefully around the end of December I can finally start mixing the album. I still have a few vocal parts unfinished, but I will be singing them meanwhile I'm mixing.
The only problem about the mixing is that my current computer gear simply cannot handle these insanely huge projects. And the other problem is that I have no money for new gear. So we have discussed about this problem with our label & management and they have agreed to help us with an advance to buy new and more powerful computer gear, but only if we agree to play a few shows and show people that Wintersun is still alive. So after carefully weighting all the different possibilies, we think we need to play these shows to help the completion of the album.
The shows will be for now: Metalfest (3 shows: Helvetia, Austria, Germany) and Metalcamp (1 show).
There's lot of work and preparation to do for these shows, 'cause we have to update our live gear as well, sort out technical difficulties and of course rehearse the songs. This will most likely affect negatively with the mixing schedule, so I can't give any predictions with that yet. I also need to try out the new computer gear first and see how it handles these projects. The software is still not 64-bit, so the "infamous 4GB RAM limit" might also be a problem with the mixing, since these projects already eat about 3GB without any plugins. But I will do my best to overcome this challenge the fastest way I can.
And no worries, these shows will definitely not be cancelled. So we are looking forward to you guys, see you at the gigs! Who knows, we might even play a one new riff... I mean a song!
" [Also thanks to amarchand and moe5512 for sending in this news!]
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| Silent Creeper Senile Veteran Posts: 296  |
They could just copy paste these news which are more than 4 years old btw: http://www.metalstorm.net/events/news_comments.php?news_id=3642 Or maybe I can borrow them my 3 years old computer which has enough RAM...
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| WorpeX Made of Metal Posts: 1347  |
Written by Silent Creeper on 18.11.2010 at 01:05 lol, I love the comments in that thread. "Oh my god, we have to wait till 2007 to get the new album!?" haha
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| MétalNoir Fils du Lys Posts: 847  |
I have the VERY strong impression Jari tries to back an average album by blaming the delay on every one else... I mean, when it takes 6 years to release a follow-up to one of the most popular metal albums ever, fans will obviously expect it to be a work of genius. And if it's not then the band sucks balls... except if it's not the band's fault. Poor lil' metalheads are too poor and big meany label doesn't help them 
---- Notre destinée n'est pas encore tracée....
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| necrovamp Posts: 424  |
Very soon their 3rd album's gonna be released before their 2nd! Why is it only wintersun who have got this problem, i've lost all faith in them.
---- 'I'd rather die than go to heaven' - Murderface
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| Vikcen Metálico Posts: 970  |
I think he is not being too intelligent giving many details about what is happening to him. I also think he is too sincere.
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| BitterCOld The Ancient One Admin Posts: 15250  |
Written by Silent Creeper on 18.11.2010 at 01:05 awesome work digging through the archive.
---- get the fuck off my lawn. Beer Bug Virus Spotify Playlist crafted by Nikarg and I. Feel free to tune in and add some pertinent metal tunes!
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| Saintain Posts: 12  |
Just fucking mix the album, shit its been 6 years now, tired of waiting, but still waiting for Time. but fucking hurry Jari.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (:
---- No Olvides que la Verdad nos dara la Libertad
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| ApolloFC Posts: 15  |
Yeah... i've stopped caring about Wintersun/Time a few years ago. Take all the time you need guys - you can even rename it so that its called Boondock Saints 2.
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| Ellrohir Heaven Knight Posts: 8662  |
"The only problem about the mixing is that my current computer gear simply cannot handle these insanely huge projects." omg... 
---- My rest seems now calm and deep Finally I got my dead man sleep 
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| moe5512 Posts: 501  |
I hope you know that to make a song (especially a symphonic metal song) takes A LOT of computer space and performance...
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| moe5512 Posts: 501 |
I hope you know that to make a song (especially a symphonic metal song) takes A LOT of computer space and performance...
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| gaud2029 Posts: 11  |
I built myself a hackintosh with 8 gig and quad-core for ~800$.. however, it all depend on the software he's using, and learning that stuff (and make something good out of it..) can take a while
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| Carl Berg Carl Berg Posts: 589  |
I totally agree, a top-notch computer nowadays costs about 1000 euros/dollars, and with the record labels advance it SHOULD NOT be any problem... I smell something fishy going on! Hey, maybe he's gonna tell us one day in his memoires...
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| Doc G. Full Grown Hoser Staff Posts: 9718  |
Wintersun news is always good for the lulz.
---- "I got a lot of really good ideas, problem is, most of them suck." - George Carlin
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| tea[m]ster Au Pays Natal Contributor Posts: 5245  |
What's gonna be the bigger bust: Duke Nukem Forever or New Wintersun?
---- rekt
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| amarchand Posts: 54  |
Haha everybody is always hating on Jari and his problems but they don't realize how difficult it is to do what he is trying to do. Learning your way around recording hardware and software takes years, so cut him some slack. I don't think it's the best idea that he's trying to mix it himself.. That could turn out awful, and totally ruin the vibe of the album. However I can't come up with an album he has played on that is disagreeable so a sliver of hope remains.
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| Daggon Underpaid M.D. Posts: 1689  |
Written by Doc G. on 19.11.2010 at 03:26 Just what I thought when I saw this news mah friend hahaha Seriously, who are they kidding? Themselves?
---- "Les vers savent qu'ils n'ont pas d'ailes, c'est pour cela qu'ils se cachent sous terre"
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| amarchand Posts: 54 |
Written by Sword_Chant on 19.11.2010 at 17:34 LOL. Makes it interesting and awesome eh? Obscured audio quality = more awesomness!!! Not being able to hear actual notes = more awesomeness!!! For Wintersun this would sound fucking terrible. They're not black metal to begin wtih.
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| Doc G. Full Grown Hoser Staff Posts: 9718 |
Written by amarchand on 19.11.2010 at 23:28 You totally read that wrong. I'm pretty sure he was using Black metal as an example. Secondly, rougher recording really works for a lot of music, and frankly, Wintersun probably wouldn't sound so Goddamned boring if they left a few rough edges instead of making music that sounds stifled from being way too over polished.
---- "I got a lot of really good ideas, problem is, most of them suck." - George Carlin
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| RavenKing Posts: 1941  |
Written by Guest on 19.11.2010 at 18:00 I find it funny when I read people saying that "Black Metal sounds like shit and you can't hear the instruments". My opinion is all you need is to get used to it. The sound is only different, in my mind, not crappy. I can hear the instruments well enough for my tastes and, in general, the sound is the way I like it to be. Some bands might sound as they lack polish but I prefer this a hundred times to a polished sound. A raw, unpolished sound has the quality to be 'alive', to touch you and give emotions. An overpolished sound is lifeless, emotionless and, in the end, boring. I understand that not everyone will agree but that's the way metal sound works for me. I would add that burying the drums a bit helps hearing guitar riffs and, imo, BM succeeds at this more than any other genre. Generally, drums are an annoyance in metal nowadays because they're recorded way too loud compared to other instruments. We didn't have this problem in the 80s. It all started in the 90s. I fucking hate drums in Powermetal, especially. Not only that they're recorded way too much over everything but they're repetitive, generic and original - a very bad combination that makes so many bands sound like each other.
---- They shake your hand and they smile and they buy you a drink They say we'll be your friends we'll stick with you till the end But everybody's only looking out for themselves And you say who can you trust I'll tell you nobody
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