Which are the "basic" Doom albums?
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Posted by SlaytanicGonzo, 25.01.2011 - 10:01
I listened to Candlemass' Nightfall and Draconian's Arcane Rain Fell and love those albums. As well as Sabbath's old stuff (if that counts as Doom)
Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck Elite |
08.03.2011 - 19:00 Written by Saturno on 08.03.2011 at 18:37 So? I am into doom since 1983 (that is discounting Black Sabbath of course) and into My Dying Bride 1991. And I dare say I find (yes, it's all subjective) 34.788%... Complete is their worst after A Line Of Deathless Kings and For Lies I Sire and I only find Swallow The Sun's fist one nice. Although totally unoriginal, but at least it is played well and has some memorable hooks.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck Elite |
08.03.2011 - 19:01 Written by BitterCOld on 08.03.2011 at 18:19 I certainly hope not.
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HugeTheConqeror |
08.03.2011 - 20:13 Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 08.03.2011 at 19:01 Yeah, the problem with Doom threads here is that once Marcel posts, there really isn't much left for the rest of us to say. I kinda read the OP as meaing that the poster wants to know which are the albums that are considered the definitive, most representative example of the genre. Pretty much all of the ones that I would include have already been mentioned: Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath, Paranoid, Master Of Reality, Volume 4, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Sabotage (I consider the Dio-era stuff to be more Heavy Metal than Doom, but that is of course open to debate). Pentagram - Relentless Witchfinder General - Death Penalty (again, Doom or Heavy Metal - open to interpretation) Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus Saint Vitus - Born Too Late Trouble - Psalm 9 Cathedral - Carnival Bizarre Reverend Bizarre - Harbinger Of Metal Kyuss - Welcome To Sky Valley Disembowelment - Transcendence Into The Peripheral Esoteric - Subconscious Dissolution Into The Continuum Electric Wizard - Dopethrone My Dying Bride - The Light At The End Of The World Witchcraft - Witchcraft This is not as long as Marcel's list, nor is it necessarily my list of favorites, but rather a list of the ones that over the years I have seen to have garnered attention from fans and critics as being important milestones in the Doom genre.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino Staff |
08.03.2011 - 21:07 Written by HugeTheConqeror on 08.03.2011 at 20:13 Yeah I mean... shut up Marcel!!!
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck Elite |
08.03.2011 - 21:09 Written by X-Ray Rod on 08.03.2011 at 21:07 you want to sleep on the street on April 13, 14, 15, 16?
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X-Ray Rod Skandino Staff |
08.03.2011 - 21:18 Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 08.03.2011 at 21:09 You never let us write lists u____u There's nothing to write after your posts
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck Elite |
08.03.2011 - 21:20 Written by X-Ray Rod on 08.03.2011 at 21:18 I only give lists so that you guys can expand on it
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BitterCOld The Ancient One Admin |
08.03.2011 - 21:20
I still think he should just compile a proper doom "List" (in the site sense of it...) and when anyone asks, we can just link it.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino Staff |
08.03.2011 - 21:21 Written by BitterCOld on 08.03.2011 at 21:20 Yeah... it would be like your article about guest reviews.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck Elite |
08.03.2011 - 21:31
What I could do is compile a list of the doom releases I physically own (but when I have multiple versions just list the regular one) and state what sort of doom it is and put a personal rating next to it. And update the list every month when I receive new doom releases.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino Staff |
08.03.2011 - 21:38 Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 08.03.2011 at 21:31 Pff with all the cds you receive it would be like every 2 days...
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HugeTheConqeror |
08.03.2011 - 21:53 Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 08.03.2011 at 21:20 Like any of us mere mortals could really expand on such a list.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck Elite |
08.03.2011 - 21:57 Written by HugeTheConqeror on 08.03.2011 at 21:53 sorry, I actually meant " I post the list and you guys add descriptions" call me lazy if you like
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whatsacow |
09.03.2011 - 00:40 Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 08.03.2011 at 10:50 Yeah, swallow the sun got me (a clean vocal purist) into the world of grunting and growling because it was easy and accessible lol.
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thanos shattered |
11.03.2011 - 16:20
You should check the following : Candlemass - Ancient Dreams, Nightfall, Epicus Doomicus Metallicus, Tales Of Creation Solitude Aeternus - Into the Depths of Sorrow, Beyond the Crimson Horizon, Through the Darkest Hour My Dying Bride - Turn Loose The Swans, The Angel and the Dark River, Thye light at the End of the World Anathema - Silent Enigma, Eternity Paradise Lost - Gothic, Icon, Draconian Times Saturnus - Martyre Mourning Beloveth - Dust Hour Of 13 - Hour Of 13 Mar De Grises - The Tatterdamelion Express Katatonia - Dance of December Souls Swallow the Sun - Hope These are from epic doom to classic doom and doom death.Just a few recommendations from the huge list.Enjoy and if you want something more just message me Thanos.
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16.04.2011 - 23:16 Enemy of Reality
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Hi there! I'm a huge doom metal fan. A list of recommendations is hard to make, because there are a lot of albums you should listened to. You should separate doom metal in genres. For example, there's classic doom (Black Sabbath, Saint Vitus, Candlemass), doom death (My Dying Bride, Anathema, Paradise Lost), funeral doom (Disembowelment, Thergothon, Esoteric), stoner doom (Cathedral, Sleep, Place of Skulls), sludge doom (Electric Wizard, High on Fire, Grand Magus, Kylesa), and experimental doom (Sunn0))), Neurosis, Cult of Luna, Katatonia). I think this way is easier. Here's a hint on which albums you should pick up first: Classic doom: Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath Candlemass - Nightfall Trouble - Psalm 9 Saint Vitus - Born Too Late Solitude Aeternus - Into the Depths of Sorrow Reverend Bizarre - In the Rectory of the Bizarre Reverend Doom death: My Dying Bride - Turn Loose the Swans Anathema - Eternity Paradise Lost - Draconian Times Morgion - Solinari Mourning Beloveth - A Disease for the Ages Novembers Doom - The Pale Haunt Departure Swallow the Sun - The Morning Never Came Draconian - Arcane Rain Fell (also check Tristania's "Widow's Weeds", it's a gothic metal album, but it's worth checking 'cause it's slow paced and heavy) Funeral doom: Winter - Into Darkness Disembowelment - Transcend into The Peripheral Thergothon - Streams from the Heavens Esoteric - Epistemological Despondency Evoken - Antithesis of Light Unholy - Gracefallen Dolorian - When All The Laughter Has Gone Skepticism - Stormcrowfleet Tyranny - Tides of Awakening Ahab - The Call of the Wretched Sea Stoner doom Cathedral - Forest of Equilibrium Sleep - Dopesmoker Place of Skulls - The Black is Never Far Kyuss - Blues for the Red Sun Sludge doom and experimental doom stuff: Burning Witch - Crippled Lucifer Electric Wizard - Dopethrone Eyehategod - Southern Discomfort High on Fire - Death is this Communion Grand Magus - Iron Will Kylesa - Static Tensions Sunn0))) - Black One Neurosis - Through Silver in Blood Cult of Luna - Salvation Katatonia - Brave Murder Day Khanate - Things Viral Halo - Body of Light Isis - Oceanic Hope it helps!!!
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josuu Posts: 16 |
22.04.2011 - 14:20
This topic surely will help I'm a noobie with doom and the site as well. About a year ago a friend recommended Swallow The Sun, I bought the two latest albums and liked it a lot. After listening to them, I've started to dig the genre a bit more and will probably find plenty of good music with these recommendations everyone has written here.
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Aristarchos Posts: 814 |
23.04.2011 - 12:42
Trouble - Psalm 9 must be considered the best defining album of the genre.
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DaReDeViL |
29.04.2011 - 00:09
Wine From Tears - Through The Eyes Of a Mad Doom:VS - Dead Words Speak Doom:VS - Aeternum Vale Katatonia - Dance Of December Souls Forest Of Shadows - Where Dreams Turn To Dust October Tide - Rain Without End
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baseyg |
27.08.2011 - 12:08
For some new doom, check out Gates Of Slumber- Wretch also when he says basic doom, i dont think he needs a whole collections worth of doom
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Mothman Posts: 40 |
08.09.2011 - 03:34
If you want basic Doom Metal, look into Pentagram. They are the pioneers of the genre.
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Aristarchos Posts: 814 |
31.12.2013 - 20:01
If you're interested to read the history of doom metal, you can check out my article: http://www.metalstorm.net/pub/article.php?article_id=1219
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist Staff |
01.01.2014 - 19:15
I'd like to see what Marcel has to say about that.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck Elite |
01.01.2014 - 22:36 Written by Troy Killjoy on 01.01.2014 at 19:15 I just shook my head in total bewilderment when reading the post above yours. Maybe he's speaking from an Australian perspective but what he says is totally wrong when speaking from a European perspective. For instance Candlemass debut was highly regarded upon release and CVandlemass played Dynamo Open Air in 1988 in fornt of about 20,000 people. And evven though Candlemass were on a small label the distribution was very good. The first three albums could be bought all over the place. Cathedral's debut was called doom and they were called doom in the printed metal mags we had over here. And My Dying Bride, Paradise Lost and such were refered to as doom death here when they released their debuts. Black Sabbath, Pentagram were Always considered proto doom en Trouble and Saint Vitus doom back in the Eighties.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist Staff |
01.01.2014 - 23:06 Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 01.01.2014 at 22:36 I definitely think that's the case here - I didn't realize he lives in a completely different part of the world but that definitely makes sense.
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no one Account deleted |
01.01.2014 - 23:13 no one
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^ would that even make a difference bare with me, new to the genre........so kyuss is doom
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Karlabos Meat and Potatos |
01.01.2014 - 23:17
Huh? Locations can influence on genre definitions? That's sort of new to me
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist Staff |
01.01.2014 - 23:18 Written by Guest on 01.01.2014 at 23:13 Well I think Europe is kind of the Mecca of metal so growing up as new bands were forming would be a lot different for someone living in Europe compared to someone growing up in Australia, especially in times before the internet.
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no one Account deleted |
02.01.2014 - 00:04 no one
Account deleted Written by Troy Killjoy on 01.01.2014 at 23:18 why? i'm sure the underground kids in oz new about black sabbath before he was even fully famous
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