Written by BitterCOld on 01.02.2011 at 21:13


and this off-topic is done. this is about the MSAs. you can keep on bitching in another thread if you want. find somewhere appropriate.

Written by Deadmeat on 01.02.2011 at 23:04

in the begining it seemed that you had right but now you lost it. Doc Godin is the guy i think you are mentioning at. he has almost 500 votes and only 4 of the rating "1". it is logicall and not vote abusing -also he hasn't listened-voted to anything else of this band after this album. dont lose your sense mate....

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 01.02.2011 at 21:52

@Ernil, how does, me, saying that some people get a hard on at the mere mention of the name arjen, a.k.a. Iron Anthony, Lucassen constitute to vote abuse?

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Did you check my votes? And also how is it power abuse? do you actually think I have that much power that people will believe what I saywithout checking for themselves?

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This is a music zine with forum where also ALL members of satff have their own preferences and dislikes and of course vent all of those, just like all other users.

Written by Guest on 01.02.2011 at 23:11

Written by Deadmeat on 01.02.2011 at 23:04

in the begining it seemed that you had right but now you lost it. Doc Godin is the guy i think you are mentioning at. he has almost 500 votes and only 4 of the rating "1". it is logicall and not vote abusing -also he hasn't listened-voted to anything else of this band after this album. dont lose your sense mate....

That's interesting. I only have one 1 vote and it went to Bakteria's album, the title of which was something along the lines of: Deffecate! Mutilate! Suffocate! Masturbate! Why? Because it's shit. It's designed to be shit and not a shitbit of effort went into it. OTOH, I couldn't care less for Iron Maiden, but I am not going to give them a 1 and deny their hard work and great musicianship just because they bore me to tears.

Written by Deadmeat on 01.02.2011 at 23:18

you have 81 votes and already gave an "1". i have 290 votes and NO rating of 1, 2 or 3... do you know why mate? cause i truly believe that to create an album that deserves to be rated with "1" you should have a completely untalented musician, who also didnt "want" to write this album (lets say that he was forced at the moment from the label), with an awful production, and ONLY awful songs. it's almost impossible but surely there are some albums that meet those criteria.

so after saying all these i find it a bit "wrong" (for me at least) that some people rate easily albums with "1". so i dont agree with dic godin but also dont agree with you mate...

Written by Guest on 01.02.2011 at 23:22

Written by Deadmeat on 01.02.2011 at 23:18

it's almost impossible but surely there are some albums that meet those criteria.

so after saying all these i find it a bit "wrong" (for me at least) that some people rate easily albums with "1". so i dont agree with dic godin but also dont agree with you mate...

Check out the album that got a 1 vote from me. Then get back to me and say I should have given it a higher rating. Seriously, I want to see you do that.

EDIT: here's a link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10jXqVznhtw

Written by Deadmeat on 01.02.2011 at 23:29

i cannot listen to this album at the moment. i'll be able to do it in the next week. but as you see i never said NO album deserves a "1". also i was going to listen to "st anger" in the next weeks and i am really curious to see how i'll rate it cause i think it may be my lowest to date rating! -i've listened to it in the past but never completely- hahaha!

Written by Guest on 01.02.2011 at 23:33

Written by Deadmeat on 01.02.2011 at 23:29

i cannot listen to this album at the moment. i'll be able to do it in the next week. but as you see i never said NO album deserves a "1". also i was going to listen to "st anger" in the next weeks and i am really curious to see how i'll rate it cause i think it may be my lowest to date rating! -i've listened to it in the past but never completely- hahaha!

It's ok if you cannot listen to it, you might need to use your ears in the future. You can take my word for it (or Baz Anderson's who for some weird reason actually bothered to write a review), this is an album that deserves -10 points. Here's quote from their album's title track: Bury your baby sister in an elephant's rectum.

They must have lost a bet or something to make this album.

Written by Guest on 01.02.2011 at 23:33

(or Baz Anderson's who for some weird reason actually bothered to write a review)

Written by Deadmeat on 01.02.2011 at 23:07

Written by BitterCOld on 01.02.2011 at 21:13


and this off-topic is done. this is about the MSAs. you can keep on bitching in another thread if you want. find somewhere appropriate.

on the other hand, it seems that you staffers sometimes like more than us the "bitching" so thats why you've created -or allow- certain places/topics for the members to bitch with each other...

Written by X-Ray Rod on 02.02.2011 at 00:03

The reason is pretty simple... He's from the staff and therefore he gets albums by different labels to review. That is all.

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Even thought I found it to be crap to the max, I don't believe in the rating 1 like deadmeat... But I also will never rate an album a 10.

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Because I don't believe in perfection, music... art... will never be perfect. I take that word very seriously, perfection doesn't exist. If an album was perfect then I wouldn't listen to other music at all, then it means that everybody in the whole world will love that album (which is impossible obviously).
Those are my views.... So: People rating 1 is as laughable as people rating an album 10.

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I also think you're making a storm in a glass of water... You can't prove that someone rate an album 1 just because they want to lower the rating.

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The staff has never said "hey, we're totally immune and can do whatever I want".

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Also... damn, we're in the internet FFS, of course there will be people saying stuff like "hard-on" and shit,... But if that really bothers you.... Then I don't know how you visit the internet everyday without being crazy.

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insulting fans by claiming that a band's popularity is the result of them being stupid/having poor taste/being blind fanboys, is something that should be completely unacceptable on Metalstorm

Written by Vivi' on 01.02.2011 at 10:49

Grave's new album wasn't present in the DM album section? Really?

Written by Guest on 01.02.2011 at 11:52

Aeon - Path Of Fire, deserve to be in the Death poll.

Written by Guest on 01.02.2011 at 19:42

The problem with this is that staff/elite members abuse the voting system too. Most of them don't, but some of them are just as whiny and bitchy about bands they think are overrated than your average fanboy.

Written by JCJen7 on 02.02.2011 at 09:22

^^To stray away from the mind numbingly stupid debate raging above^

Is anyone else finding it hard to cast their Hard Rock vote? I mean, there is really nothing worthy this year. Scorpions or Ratt I have narrowed it down to.

I can't believe Airbourne or Black Country Communion got nominated, their music is carbon copies of 70's bands work.

Danko Jones was decent, pretty stupid cock rock though, and barely entertains me through the first listen, and Negative i thought would get the vote for me, but after listening to the album 3 or so times, I can't really stand it anymore.

I never got the chance to check out Human Temple's album, does anyone here know if I should bother, and if it could possibly sway my vote?

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.02.2011 at 09:25

Written by JCJen7 on 02.02.2011 at 09:22

^^To stray away from the mind numbingly stupid debate raging above^

Is anyone else finding it hard to cast their Hard Rock vote? I mean, there is really nothing worthy this year. Scorpions or Ratt I have narrowed it down to.

I can't believe Airbourne or Black Country Communion got nominated, their music is carbon copies of 70's bands work.

Danko Jones was decent, pretty stupid cock rock though, and barely entertains me through the first listen, and Negative i thought would get the vote for me, but after listening to the album 3 or so times, I can't really stand it anymore.

I never got the chance to check out Human Temple's album, does anyone here know if I should bother, and if it could possibly sway my vote?

Black Country Communion though firmly rooted in the 70s and 80s blows the competition right out of the water. By far the best hard rock album released this year, if you ask me. Damn the musicianship is the best there is with Hughes brilliant vocals Bonham's great drumming and Bonamassa's superb guitar work.

Written by JCJen7 on 02.02.2011 at 09:29

I wish I agreed with you. I don't like having to decide between a 30 year old band on their deep downswing, or a 40+ year old band 's retirement album, but for me, it's what it has come down to. Not sure why I can't get in to the Black Country Communion album, maybe I just listened the fuck out of all my Zeppelin and Deep Purple albums, that I don't wanna hear it anymore, not sure haha.

Written by Troy Killjoy on 02.02.2011 at 01:18

Simply laughable.

Everyone reserves the right to laugh at whatever band they want and for whatever reason - the difference, for the most part, is that Staff members explain their reasons for disliking certain bands (even if that reason is merely popularity, which is a rarity).

As for vote abuse - you'll notice some Staff members don't even cast their votes, and some reviewers don't even score albums.

That's all I have to say about that - no fuel feeding the fire, rest assured. I just thought I'd let you know it's not as bad a "dictatorship" as you make it out to be.

Written by Guest on 02.02.2011 at 10:12

On the MS awards: I am surprised that Kamelot hasn't received tons of votes in the biggest disappointment category.

Written by X-Ray Rod on 02.02.2011 at 10:18

How do you know that not many people has voted for that? If more than one person votes for an album in the write-in it won't show two votes, just one nominee unless this two persons wrote the name of the album/band in a different way

Written by Guest on 02.02.2011 at 10:12


On the MS awards: I am surprised that Kamelot hasn't received tons of votes in the biggest disappointment category.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.02.2011 at 11:17

Written by Guest on 02.02.2011 at 10:12


On the MS awards: I am surprised that Kamelot hasn't received tons of votes in the biggest disappointment category.

Actually it has.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.02.2011 at 11:17

Written by Guest on 02.02.2011 at 10:12


On the MS awards: I am surprised that Kamelot hasn't received tons of votes in the biggest disappointment category.

Actually it has.

Written by Guest on 03.02.2011 at 01:19

Thanks for doing such a great job in setting up these Metal Awards! I have some listening to do! That being said...here's a suggestion for next year from me personally. Would you mind making two categories for avant-garde and post-metal? I could have voted for Rosetta or Alcest or TONS of other awesome avant-garde and post metal stuff...but of course I had to go with Shining. Man...Rosetta had one of the best albums of the year and it's a shame I can't vote for it. It deserves as much praise on the metal sites as possible, and I think there's honestly enough albums for two categories.
As well...I would have recommended putting Periphery on the list for the best debut album. It's stellar. (Minor quibble, though...very few seem to have voted for it on MS)

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.02.2011 at 09:38

Written by JCJen7 on 02.02.2011 at 09:29

I wish I agreed with you. I don't like having to decide between a 30 year old band on their deep downswing, or a 40+ year old band 's retirement album, but for me, it's what it has come down to. Not sure why I can't get in to the Black Country Communion album, maybe I just listened the fuck out of all my Zeppelin and Deep Purple albums, that I don't wanna hear it anymore, not sure haha.

BCC sounds nothing like Deep Purple or Led Zeppelin, and to be honest I can't really see a connection with Led Zep. The only connection is that BCC has John Bonham's son on drums. And Jason only drummed with Led Zep a couple of years back at a one-off gig.