Well, from the creator of "what's avant-garde music", here is: What the hell changes when at the end of a style we add -core, I mean what's the difference btw... emo and emocore, thrash and thrashcore etc. I just what to know things related to this mmm "subgenre"... It is an own genre?? Or just a shade on a genre?? Help me, oh mighty and clever minds of metalstorm!!

It simply means that there is a prominent element of punk/hardcore in the music. So thrashcore=thrash/hardcore such as SOD or DRI.
Also, if the first part of the sub-genre is not an already existing style like "thrash", it simply means that you are dealing with a sub-genre of punk. So for example, grindcore is a sub-genre of punk that is really extreme. Noisecore is noise-rock with grindcore/hardcore extremity, jazzcore is jazz mixed with hardcore etc...

Neet, now i know, tho never even wondered what it means, but still, thanks

Also, if the genre ends with -core, it almost always means that it is actually a sub-genre of punk, with elements from other styles (so metalcore is closer to hardcore than metal, for example).

Written by jupitreas on 16.09.2006 at 18:50

Also, if the genre ends with -core, it almost always means that it is actually a sub-genre of punk, with elements from other styles (so metalcore is closer to hardcore than metal, for example).

I know exatly who i will call, when i will have troubles with genres

Once upon a time theese -core bands were simply called alternative i gues.

-core means a subgenre of hardcore punk

mmmm cool thx for the info, punk and metal have been some times against eachother so it's pretty interesting for me that exists a kind of mix together or smthing like that creating a style...

Thanks to Jupitreas for the information.

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Written by APOHAKC on 04.02.2007 at 01:02

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I think you kind of missed the point...

I wasn't serious, alright?

it just as a influance of hardcore, the only thing i disagree with anyone it when it come to Deathcore, i use to think of bands that were death with hardcore influance as deathcore before i actully heard bands that were officaly called deathcore (Job For a Cowboy, Zubrowska. go to Metal-observer.org for a list (Bad ass WebSite)) and noticed they sounded nothing like the bands i was thinking of, so have sometimes used the genre Death Metalcore

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thanks guys for the info, this thread is really usefull!!

Doesn't -core have something to do with hardcore...?


I don't know....

-core means it has elements of hardcore/punk in the music.

Can someone define MetalCore for me? I know what it sounds like but I cant quite describe it.

Written by Doc G. on 30.04.2007 at 00:50

Can someone define MetalCore for me? I know what it sounds like but I cant quite describe it.

It's mix of melodic death metal (for example At The Gates, In Flames etc. influence) and hardcore music.

Well it's really a mix of plain heavy metal and hardcore punk, it just happens that gothenburg metal (In Flames etc) is often an influence as well.

Written by Tod_Engel on 02.05.2007 at 19:51

Written by Doc G. on 30.04.2007 at 00:50

Can someone define MetalCore for me? I know what it sounds like but I cant quite describe it.

It's mix of melodic death metal (for example At The Gates, In Flames etc. influence) and hardcore music.

are you fucking hilarious?

Written by Guest on 08.01.2008 at 00:11

Written by Tod_Engel on 02.05.2007 at 19:51

Written by Doc G. on 30.04.2007 at 00:50

Can someone define MetalCore for me? I know what it sounds like but I cant quite describe it.

It's mix of melodic death metal (for example At The Gates, In Flames etc. influence) and hardcore music.

are you fucking hilarious?

Syk put it right with an earlier post. My post wasn't overall wrong. There is a big influence from melo-death bands, escpecially At The Gates.

bullshit, maybe for this new wave of metalcore bands that are the big names at the moment, but metalcore in general has NOTHING to do with melodic death metal. especially bands like in flames and soilwork havn't recorded anything related to DEATH METAL in years.

bad religion. among others, their music was heavier than most punk bands at the time, which eventually gave them the label of "hardcore punk". it started to take influences from metal (mostly thrash at the time) and people eventually started calling it "hardcore". punk has a two-step principle, as does hardcore. if you don't know what i'm talking about please research it. i'm trying to keep this as short as possible.

melodic death metal is based on long phrases, melody, an emotional contrast (breakdowns) between verses/choruses; a principle jazz relies on. hardcore doesn't have breakdowns or any melody, and has extremely short phrases. so no, melodic death metal and hardcore aren't from the same branch of music.

metalcore is as simple as this: hardcore gone soft. it may have taken influences from melodic death metal, but they still aren't alike IMO. just because they both have melody doesn't necessarily mean they're comparable.

Okay, I've totally misunderstood metalcore. Yes, metalcore isn't really melo-death. I just see that a lot of new metalcore bands try to take influences from melo-death, most of the times in vein of At The Gates. Isn't Slaughter of The soul by At The Gates a big influence to well-known metalcore bands? But this doesn't count to all of the bands in metalcore scene. Yes, metalcore is still a lot more related to hardcore music than metal.

-core means hardcore.

Metalcore means Metal + Hardcore
Deathcore means Death Metal + Hardcore

That's as far as I know. Not 100% sure though.

I don't think metalcore just means "metal + hardcore", otherwise Slayer, DRI and Crowbar would be metalcore bands. I don't really know what the "formula" is for metalcore, but it's definitely an alternate take on "metal + hardcore" (I'm thinking "melodeath + metallic hardcore", though I'm not sure of metalcore's exact origins and apparently saying metalcore is related to melodeath is laughable(!)). As for deathcore, to me it means "death metal + metalcore".

A point I need to bring up: I don't automatically assume that anything ending with "-core" is predominantly hardcore (though, when it comes to rock music, I assume it has something to do with hardcore), and a lot of metal- and deathcore bands I've heard are closer in sound, if not aesthetics, to metal than they are to punk. I just can't see how Killswitch Engage (for example) are more punk than metal; I'm sure someone has a well-thought-out explanation, but for the life of me I can't say that KSE is primarily hardcore. *flame shield on*

Written by RobotPolarBear on 18.08.2010 at 16:06

A point I need to bring up: I don't automatically assume that anything ending with "-core" is predominantly hardcore (though, when it comes to rock music, I assume it has something to do with hardcore), and a lot of metal- and deathcore bands I've heard are closer in sound, if not aesthetics, to metal than they are to punk. I just can't see how Killswitch Engage (for example) are more punk than metal; I'm sure someone has a well-thought-out explanation, but for the life of me I can't say that KSE is primarily hardcore. *flame shield on*

I agree. I would say that there is no general principle, but the percentage of hardcore and metal influence depends on each band individually.

And my personal opinion is that metalcore for the most part still draws more influence in metal than hardcore.

In fact, Thrashcore isn't Thrash Metal + Hardcore, that's Crossover Thrash (Ratos de Porão i.e.). Thrashcore, as far as I remember, is a sub genre of hardcore punk itself, with a faster edge, but not as noisy as grindcore.