Written by malaikat on 23.09.2011 at 00:33

Written by arto adnan on 23.09.2011 at 00:09

For an honest review, visit http://www.rich-wilson.com/news-blog/

Sorry, but that review is the written equivalent of orally pleasing each and every member of DT.

With a bukkake on top.

And the reviewer likes it.

Written by malaikat on 23.09.2011 at 00:21

Written by jmz on 22.09.2011 at 16:59



alright mate.

i'm not claiming the new album is up there with those top ones, and it doesn't have anything to do with Berklee or their musicianship that i don't agree with the rating. well, probably it's just the end of the article that made me sick.

so, just my personal idea this is worth more than 5.8
not trying to change anyone's mind here but just share an idea if there's someone wanting to give it a try.

Why are you getting aggresive? Did you even read my post past your fanboy blindness?

You said that DT never gets high rating here on MS. I proved you wrong, naming three (3) albums that have a very high rating. In other words: you tried to imply that, somehow, poeple at MS hate DT and deliberatly downrate their albums - I just pointed out that they do recieve high rating when the albums are actually good. When they release album this mediocre, the rating will be mediocre. End of story.

Moving on. Next you said that here on MS we hate "the >6 minutes songs", which is totally not true, for the reasons I explained in my previous post, which I'll not write again.

In short: lrn2read. I mean, you said something, I replied to one specific thing you said (ok, two things), and then you quoted me back and started talking about something entirely else. I did not offend your oppinion or your taste, I just pointed out that you are simply not right concerning those 2 things we just disscused.
The point of my post was showing you that:
1) DT has some pretty high ratings, despite your paranoia;
2) MS is a site that actually cherishes prog, experimental and other ">6 minutes songs" metal music.

Nothing more, nothing less. I understand you're a DT fanboy (you rated almost every single DT album with 9 or 10), but be more realistic and less agressive, will you?

Written by JCJen7 on 23.09.2011 at 04:54

Can everyone just calm down? Can't we all just be friends?

People who don't like the review...state why in a fashionable manner. That is your right.
People who don't like the album...state why in a fashionable manner. That is your right.
People who did like the review...state why in a fashionable manner. That is your right.
People who did like the album...state why in a fashionable manner. That is your right.

Just remember it is also everyone else's right here to disagree with you.

I thought the album was decent, although in small doses, I am quite fond of some useless wanking from time to time.

Written by jhook on 23.09.2011 at 06:13

Written by JCJen7 on 23.09.2011 at 04:54

Can everyone just calm down? Can't we all just be friends?

People who don't like the review...state why in a fashionable manner. That is your right.
People who don't like the album...state why in a fashionable manner. That is your right.
People who did like the review...state why in a fashionable manner. That is your right.
People who did like the album...state why in a fashionable manner. That is your right.

Just remember it is also everyone else's right here to disagree with you.

I thought the album was decent, although in small doses, I am quite fond of some useless wanking from time to time.

no... we can't. its a music review site, if you dont insult everyones opinions and say your dicks bigger than everyone elses then you dont belong

Written by jhook on 23.09.2011 at 02:09

Written by Guest on 22.09.2011 at 21:18

I get the impression that the guys from DT have become victims of their own work ethic. I mean this is their 6th studio album in the last decade, right? Add to that touring after each record, some 5 or six lives/DVDs in that period, and all of those guest work for other bands and side-projects. They're bound to run out of ideas, and and fill the gap with emotionless instrumental proficiency. I feel that they need to take a longer break between albums, to get some creative ideas again.

I personally fell a certain "saturation" ( is that the right term? ) with Dream Theater realeases.

hmm, well i actually read in an interview with the band that they actually had too many creative ideas and the problem was sorting through them to make an album

Written by jmz on 23.09.2011 at 04:28


oh man, excuse my English then if it makes you feel i'm aggressive because i didn't mean to. it's my 2nd language.

i had nothing against you on the scores of the past albums as all the fans of this band all over the world know it's their best so far, they are my top favorites too. and ok, you told me i'm wrong to imply MS guys don't like >6 minutes songs from your experience then i got it and nothing against them or you.

whatever you're feeling towards me it's your choice and i'm not here to attack MS or you. in the end i just say it's my "personal" feeling that this album is not too bad (and that doesn't mean it deserves 9 or 10). i come here as a friend who shares the same passion to heavy music, and my point is not going to attack or being aggressive to whoever.

Written by Doc G. on 22.09.2011 at 18:41
People care a lot because the staff have the front page, therefore our voices are louder and our e-cocks are bigger. Maybe it's some sort of inferiority thing that makes people obnoxiously combatant against reviews that differ from their opinion. Most of the people trying to "prove the reviewer wrong" use the words "professionalism", "bias", and "unobjective" quite a bit. You'll notice negativity is held to a much higher standard.

(this rant does not apply to those who respectfully disagree with the review and are well spoken enough to express their disagreement with the review, rather than make some limp-dicked attempt at discrediting the reviewer.)

Written by KarloJelincic on 23.09.2011 at 13:09

Black Clouds and Systematic Chaos are are by far the worst Dream Theater albums. ADTOE is a huge step up from those 2 albums.

Written by Daniell on 23.09.2011 at 13:31

Written by KarloJelincic on 23.09.2011 at 13:09

Black Clouds and Systematic Chaos are are by far the worst Dream Theater albums. ADTOE is a huge step up from those 2 albums.

You forgot to add that it's YOUR opinion. Which I respectfully accept, and expect the same in return when I present mine.

Written by Prometheus on 22.09.2011 at 20:31

i ment that even if i dont like the album i would give 7 because i love this band .

Written by X-Ray Rod on 23.09.2011 at 15:38

Written by Prometheus on 22.09.2011 at 20:31

i ment that even if i dont like the album i would give 7 because i love this band .

Wow, that's just plain dumb. It means that you will just swallow what ever piece of junk a certain band releases no matter how bad it is... but just because it has their logo on the artwork.
That's just wrong.

Written by BitterCOld on 22.09.2011 at 19:45

Written by bodomroy on 22.09.2011 at 17:52

A review can´t be objective but points yes, it´s maths. 9+5+6+8 = 28 / 4 = 7. Reviewer hates jordan's keyboards and its presence, so i think performance and production can´t score 9 and 8. Doesn´t like singing too and it seems that only one guitar solo its well built so the review doesn´t follow the logic of the points.

the points argument... take a drink!

truth is overall score is not just those four factors taken into consideration.

you'll notice ENJOYMENT is not one of the four. a good reviewer should be able to differentiate from very skilled musicians capable of crafting a song from whether or not that song is actually enjoyable. Replay - is it the kind of album you'll actually want to listen to again?

there are a host of other factors that get taken into consideration beyond those four, and the final score is reflects OVERALL opinion.

Written by Mindheist on 23.09.2011 at 15:22

Yes but you forgot to mention the other category of whiners. Those who are always kowtowing to the staff and agree with pretty much everything that's flagged as "Official". Believe me I came across loads of suck-up comments as I was scrolling down to write mine. If you had given this album a perfect 10, some of those who supported the 5.8 rating would have definitely agreed with you. We should always remember that a staff member is a member and his/her opinion isn't any more or less important than an "ordinary" member. Bashing a scathing review just because you worship the band and sucking up to the staff member who reviewed it (even though you secretly disagree with him/her or have no idea what he/she's talking about given you haven't even listened to the album yet) is to me pretty much the same thing.

Written by Daniell on 23.09.2011 at 21:19

Whatever whoever might think, my reviews are 100% honest truth about the album in question. I do the reviews of my own volition, without any payment, for my own writing pleasure. Not being tied to any label or anyone who'd pay me for doing this, I'm free to write what I really think about an album, after giving it a big number of listens, that being at least 10 (with some exceptions). I don't seek attention, appreciation, or anything else that people seek on the internet. that's why you can't usually see me arguing vehemently with those who disagree with my reviews.

Written by Angelic Storm on 23.09.2011 at 20:39

On a website like this, (and to a much greater extent Encyclopedia Metallum) it's the opposite way around. Bashing bands/albums (especially popular band's albums) because it's seen as the "true metal" thing to do, and agreeing with staff simply because they are staff probably also happens in that context. While Im sure it does happen though, it is definitely only a minority, at least on Metal Storm. No metal website will be completely free of those types of people, but overall, Metal Storm is the best forums for metal I've ever come across. With intelligent, measured debate being (well, mostly lol) the order of the day.