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Posted by on 11.10.2011 at 19:43
Hello, guys! I think the title says all. I searched for a while but nobody can really explain this question. I don't listen to these styles too much... I even don't like them too much.

Nothing more to say, I guess. Can you help me (explain with you own words) ?

Thanks!



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Marcel Hubregtse
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  28.11.2011 at 21:02
Written by SuicidalCyco on 28.11.2011 at 20:57

Sir thats not metalcore, im talking about the metalcore/deathcore shit, and thats obviously what everyone else is talking about as well.


Sir, that IS the original metalcore. I could also add Cro Mags and Merauder.
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SuicidalCyco
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  28.11.2011 at 21:04
Well, you may be right in some aspect, but not the one im talking about, and Cro Mags kick ass too.
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Berserker
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  28.11.2011 at 22:47
These are 2 styles that i can't apreciate as a whole. However i did enjoyed Coal Chamber back in the day and few years back I've listened to Scream Aim Fire by Bullet For My Valentine.
Kennoth

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  05.12.2011 at 16:48
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Written by SuicidalCyco on 28.11.2011 at 20:39

Good metalcore.



Im sorry but there is no such thing as good metalcore.


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DJ Mythos

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  09.03.2012 at 20:22
Haha. I agree, though. I don't think there's good metalcore. Also, I find that it has almost nothing to do with hardcore. The hardcore label is applied in decidedly wrong ways, imo, mostly by metalheads that don't know how to listen to punk. There is a NY style of hardcore pioneered by Agnostic Front which, albeit from a considerable distance, inspired most of the metalcore we hear these days. But I doubt AF would listen to any of those bands. A lot of that stuff involves slam riffing - the lowest form of metal riffing - and whigger posturing. Also, it's pointlessly misanthropic, for the most part. I don't think extreme music has much to gain by emulating simple teenage angst.
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BlueMobius
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  12.03.2012 at 06:09
Written by DJ Mythos on 09.03.2012 at 20:22

I find that it has almost nothing to do with hardcore.


You aren't listening to the right metalcore then.
90s metalcore was a noticeable blend of hardcore and metal.

Slayer666

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  12.03.2012 at 12:27
The difference I care most about is how no Nu metal band I've seen has chicks as ridiculously hot as some Metalcore bands do.

mute and fap fap fap
vezzy
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  12.03.2012 at 12:31
Written by Slayer666 on 12.03.2012 at 12:27
mute and fap fap fap


I find this lackluster to fap to.

Sorry, I'll stick to the usual material I've got.
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  12.03.2012 at 15:17
Two very different genre, different style of playing and both the genre are heavy castigated if you compare to other leading genre( Thrash, Melodic, Black or Death!.
For a listen:-

Metalcore



Nu-Metal
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Uldreth

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  12.03.2012 at 17:56
Written by Slayer666 on 12.03.2012 at 12:27

The difference I care most about is how no Nu metal band I've seen has chicks as ridiculously hot as some Metalcore bands do.

mute and fap fap fap

I know this is a cover and all, but...

People call this metalcore nowadays?
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Marcel Hubregtse
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  12.03.2012 at 19:14
This is true metalcore:

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Marcel Hubregtse
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  12.03.2012 at 19:15
Written by Uldreth on 12.03.2012 at 17:56

People call this metalcore nowadays?


Indeed weird calling a Blondie cover metalcore
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Boxcar Willy
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  12.03.2012 at 21:23


as MS's resident BRO I approve of this metalcore.
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Boxcar Willy
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  12.03.2012 at 21:28
Quote:
Written by SuicidalCyco on 28.11.2011 at 20:39

Good metalcore.



Im sorry but there is no such thing as good metalcore.

Very ignorent comment.
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Slayer666

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  12.03.2012 at 21:34
Written by Uldreth on 12.03.2012 at 17:56

I know this is a cover and all, but...

People call this metalcore nowadays?


Not this song in particular, but In This Moment is (generally) a metalcore band.
The modern, commercial one though, not old-school.
DJ Mythos

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  17.03.2012 at 03:47
It's possible I wasn't fair to metalcore. I've always said that anything can be done well. I don't mind Converge.
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Troy Killjoy
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  17.03.2012 at 04:07
Written by DJ Mythos on 17.03.2012 at 03:47
I don't mind Converge.

You should also give Zao and Yakuza a fair chance. Between them and Converge, those are the three primary metalcore bands I personally enjoy.

Others will probably recommend SikTh, Protest the Hero, or Between the Buried and Me, though.
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Branzig

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  17.03.2012 at 06:36
Old Zao is actually really good.

Through the Eyes of the Dead are another of my guilty pleasures...although I guess most classify them as "Deathcore."
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Darkfiber

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  25.03.2012 at 07:22
SImple. Metalcore bands can't write songs. Nu-metal bands can't write songs OR play instruments. Fans of both are idiots. Case in point:

Troy Killjoy
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  25.03.2012 at 16:47
Written by Darkfiber on 25.03.2012 at 07:22
SImple. Metalcore bands can't write songs. Nu-metal bands can't write songs OR play instruments. Fans of both are idiots.

Whoa bro there can only be so much "cool" in this thread at a time. Leave some for the rest of us.
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  25.03.2012 at 17:03
Written by Troy Killjoy on 25.03.2012 at 16:47

Written by Darkfiber on 25.03.2012 at 07:22
SImple. Metalcore bands can't write songs. Nu-metal bands can't write songs OR play instruments. Fans of both are idiots.

Whoa bro there can only be so much "cool" in this thread at a time. Leave some for the rest of us.

I was just going to comment on that.


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Troy Killjoy
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  25.03.2012 at 17:06
Written by Boxcar Willy on 25.03.2012 at 17:03
I was just going to comment on that.

Meh. People who stereotype entire fanbases are generally as easy to stereotype as those they continue to belittle.

Besides, his favorite band is apparently Bal-Sagoth. Bal-Sagoth fans are idiots apparently.
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  25.03.2012 at 17:07
Written by Darkfiber on 25.03.2012 at 07:22

SImple. Metalcore bands can't write songs.

Are you fucking kidding me?

You knowI was going to post a video to prove that fucking ridiculous statement wrong, but you wouldn't watch it anyway...


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Uldreth

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  25.03.2012 at 18:19
Written by Darkfiber on 25.03.2012 at 07:22

SImple. Metalcore bands can't write songs. Nu-metal bands can't write songs OR play instruments. Fans of both are idiots. Case in point:



Wow, watch out guys we have a real badass here.

I like your well researched and reasoned opinions though


Yours faithfully, an idiot.

(and now I'm gonna have me some early Caliban)
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  25.03.2012 at 18:29
I am surprised not to see a video from Korn and if someone share it >> it gonna be a controversial.
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Darkfiber

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  26.03.2012 at 09:40
Written by Boxcar Willy on 25.03.2012 at 17:07

Written by Darkfiber on 25.03.2012 at 07:22

SImple. Metalcore bands can't write songs.

Are you fucking kidding me?

You knowI was going to post a video to prove that fucking ridiculous statement wrong, but you wouldn't watch it anyway...





Please prove me wrong. I promise I will watch it!
IronAngel

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  26.03.2012 at 12:09
Written by Darkfiber on 26.03.2012 at 09:40

Please prove me wrong. I promise I will watch it!




Particularly the first track. That album is the shit.
Boxcar Willy
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  26.03.2012 at 14:36
Written by Darkfiber on 26.03.2012 at 09:40

Written by Boxcar Willy on 25.03.2012 at 17:07

Written by Darkfiber on 25.03.2012 at 07:22

SImple. Metalcore bands can't write songs.

Are you fucking kidding me?

You knowI was going to post a video to prove that fucking ridiculous statement wrong, but you wouldn't watch it anyway...





Please prove me wrong. I promise I will watch it!



or even
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Uldreth

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  26.03.2012 at 17:44
Written by Darkfiber on 26.03.2012 at 09:40


Please prove me wrong. I promise I will watch it!




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Written by Troy Killjoy on 25.12.2011 at 07:06

And then of course there's Asking Alexandria... For the record, nobody ever asked Alexandria anything ever again.



-Troy on trancecore
vgmaster9

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  13.06.2012 at 04:45
Anyone listen to Pro Pain?

And for those saying nu metal is too commercialized, here's to things: 1. There are plenty of underground nu metal bands. 2. Glam metal was also heaviliy commercialized in the 80s, and bands used tons of makeup and long hair, yet that's praised by metalheads. What makes nu metal so different?

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