Me like, but not too much. Female chirping does not a great album make. No matter what fantasies the chirping invokes!

Written by Daniell on 01.11.2011 at 00:09

Female chirping does not a great album make.

Seriously though this looks like something I should check out.

Written by R'Vannith on 01.11.2011 at 02:46

Written by Daniell on 01.11.2011 at 00:09

Female chirping does not a great album make.

Seriously though this looks like something I should check out.

I'm not sure I get your joke.

Written by R'Vannith on 01.11.2011 at 02:46

Written by Daniell on 01.11.2011 at 00:09

Female chirping does not a great album make.

Seriously though this looks like something I should check out.

Daniell's sentence is perfectly correct english both semantically and gramatically.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 01.11.2011 at 10:11
Daniell's sentence is perfectly correct english both semantically and gramatically.

Despite its legitimacy the voice in my head sounded like Yoda as I read it.

Written by Daniell on 01.11.2011 at 09:54

I'm not sure I get your joke.

Your comment sounded like a Yodaism to me. I didn't mean your comment was incorrect in any way. Pardon my antiquated sense of humour

Written by Troy Killjoy on 01.11.2011 at 10:26

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 01.11.2011 at 10:11
Daniell's sentence is perfectly correct english both semantically and gramatically.

Despite its legitimacy the voice in my head sounded like Yoda as I read it.

My favourite Yoda sentence is this:



Not directed at anyone, in case you wondered.

Definitely one of my favourites for this year as well.
The best thing about music is that not everyone needs to like it. If everyone liked it, it would probably be shite I'm sure.

Not sure if I agree with you about house carpenter being out of place. I actually liked the sudden change, but for some reason the album still keeps the dark atmosphere.

The best part of the album is the dark atmosphere throughout the whole thing, probably why I like violins so much. And about the vocals being off, I think they are meant to be slightly off. Its something like torche and made out of babies, where the vocals are sung purposefully slightly off, which I think is a lot tougher than normal vocals.

I didn't have an issue with House Carpenter either, though it's not the high point of the album. I dig The Inheritance and Attack On Golden Mountain.

Good to see this finally recommended and reviewed. I haven't listened to it much in a few months - too much music, too little time - but I played it like once a day for a few weeks when it came out. It will definetely be in my top 3-5 metal albums by the end of the year. It's just very good. Some of the songs are maybe a little longer than necessary, and once you've heard it enough times it seems a little meandering instead of tension-building. But that's a minor gripe about an album with a wonderful sound and very catchy melodies, not to mention vocals that remind me of early PJ Harvey.

Did not expect the "House Carpenter". Did. Not. Album grew in my eyes after it.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 30.10.2011 at 20:33

Not in metal Like Kutschurft sings: Metal Is Een Mannensport (Metal Is A Male Sport)

A girl agrees. But MS opened my mind to some nice femme metal bands, though I hate that term. Maybe this will be one of them.

Just coz its got women in it doesn't mean these chicks don't know how to rock.

I think House Carpenter would be better suited for a Primordial album. The rest is good though. The lead vocals are like Kim McAuliff doing 90s alt. rock.

In terms of female vocals, I realise I prefer Acid King and recent Kylesa. nevertheless, this is still an enjoyable release

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 30.10.2011 at 20:33

Written by Guest on 30.10.2011 at 20:31


Yeah but you need to embrace the future as well. And the future includes women ;]

Not in metal

A ha! Caught you! You say this but you actually DO like a few female fronted bands in metal, quite a bit actually (Rituals of the Oak and Murkrat to name a few) Mwahahaha!!!


/on topic
This album is wonderful. A perfect complement to my growing love for this genre.

Stonecarver is definitely the best longtrack I've heard this year. Thumbs up.

Written by Susan on 10.12.2011 at 17:02

A ha! Caught you! You say this but you actually DO like a few female fronted bands in metal, quite a bit actually (Rituals of the Oak and Murkrat to name a few) Mwahahaha!!!

Not to mention that one of his five 10s in all his votes is a (wait for it.........) a female fronted thrash metal band.

Written by X-Ray Rod on 29.12.2011 at 16:41

Not to mention that one of his five 10s in all his votes is a (wait for it.........) a female fronted thrash metal band.

A pretty rubbish one too if you ask me ;] Weak vocals.

Written by Guest on 29.12.2011 at 16:48

Written by X-Ray Rod on 29.12.2011 at 16:41

Not to mention that one of his five 10s in all his votes is a (wait for it.........) a female fronted thrash metal band.

A pretty rubbish one too if you ask me ;] Weak vocals.

I think the album is pretty good, well... I'm programmed to think that anyways. But definitely not 10-worthy. Would give it a low 8.

Written by Guest on 29.12.2011 at 16:48

Written by X-Ray Rod on 29.12.2011 at 16:41

Not to mention that one of his five 10s in all his votes is a (wait for it.........) a female fronted thrash metal band.

A pretty rubbish one too if you ask me ;] Weak vocals.

far better than SubRosa Now those are weak vocals
And as we all know you and thrash don't go together at all.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 30.12.2011 at 09:44


far better than SubRosa Now those are weak vocals
And as we all know you and thrash don't go together at all.

Her vocals on that album sound like she belongs on some teenager angst ridden nu/hard rock album like Slunt or something. Totally inappropriate for the style. I'm amazed you like it but it shows how easily influenced you were when you were younger

Written by Guest on 30.12.2011 at 12:51

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 30.12.2011 at 09:44


far better than SubRosa Now those are weak vocals
And as we all know you and thrash don't go together at all.

Her vocals on that album sound like she belongs on some teenager angst ridden nu/hard rock album like Slunt or something. Totally inappropriate for the style. I'm amazed you like it but it shows how easily influenced you were when you were younger

Influenced? When almost no-one liked it at the time except for me and Walter (now main organizer of Roadburn)? We were the only two over at Meltdown Metal Magazine that liked it and I think there was only Robert Heeg over at Aardschok Magazine at the tim likign it The timeless classic that is Within The veil only got recognition later on, epsecialy due to the vocals which combined weirdly yet great with that style of thrash.

But now we're drifting off topic again. SubRosa and it's mediocrity to okayish that this new album of theirs is.

I have no idea what that last sentence was meant to say Marcel

Written by Guest on 30.12.2011 at 12:58

I have no idea what that last sentence was meant to say Marcel

K7ism kicking in after having the have got up at 4 a.m. today

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 30.12.2011 at 13:12


K7ism kicking in after having the have got up at 4 a.m. today

He seems to be having an affect on us all recently ¬_¬

I finally managed to get my hands on this!

It was without question worth the wait and the album not only lived up to my high expectations, that had built up over time, but more than surpassed them.

Every now and again you come across an album that goes beyond most of the stuff you are used to and just feels right, for a lack of a better word. It feels extra special and touches something deep within, and that is what Subrosa's masterpiece did to me.

Alright, enough with the wannabe poetic nonsese. Simply put: It's a fucking good piece of music. It got eerie violins, soulful female vocals and a great mix of catchy yet mournful songs with a truly haunting atmosphere wrapped around it all.

One of last year's best releases.

I just finished my first thorough listen of this and I feel almost disoriented in a good way. The vocals are just perfect, in a certain point the vocals reminded me of Dolores O'Riordan from The Cranberries if that makes any sense
Will probably be stuck on this for a little while

Written by InnerSelf on 06.03.2012 at 22:09

I just finished my first thorough listen of this

Me too. Well actually I've spun it a couple times now and from what I gather it is definetly sludge! Reminds me a bit of Ufomammut - without the epic, long tracks. I do like the vocals and violins. It brings something fresh to the post/sludge genre.

I think this sound is an acquired taste and may be not for everyone...

Written by tea[m]ster on 11.03.2012 at 20:55

Me too. Well actually I've spun it a couple times now and from what I gather it is definetly sludge! Reminds me a bit of Ufomammut - without the epic, long tracks. I do like the vocals and violins. It brings something fresh to the post/sludge genre.

I think this sound is an acquired taste and may be not for everyone...

I actually got A Forest of Stars vibe. same majestic atmosphere, similar violin work but the basic sound there is Black Metal.

I discovered this band two days ago and i'm listening to No Help... without stopping. i mean, it's already one of my all time favs i think.
there are some moments here and there that every time i think i'm goona cry for thei beauty!
too drunk now to explain in full details anyway today morning i purchased the cd from their bigcartel page. SO HIGHLY suggested to every eclectic fan of doom metal.