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Posted by Eight on 18.05.2006 at 13:36
I do belive that all of you know this band, don't you ? So i guess ill be the one who creates this thread.
I hear peoplesaying that Guns'n'Roses would be better off whitout Axel! i think not, whats done is done, and there couldnt be G'n'R whitout Axels Guns



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Valentin B
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  02.07.2012 at 00:44
I just saw them in concert, and my God, where the hell did Axl find these guys? they are some of the most talented musicians I've ever seen, they played for 3 fucking hours, the longest single concert i've ever seen and even at the very end still had the energy to run around and nail that awesome ending of Paradise City. I have never seen a band play that much with few if any fuckups, and apparently this was a typical show for this tour (only difference is that on some other festivals they were a bit more time-constrained, which did not happen here fortunately).

I still think the real GnR is with Slash, Izzy, Duff and Adler, in addition to Axl and Reed, but this version of Guns kicks serious ass. to the people who don't give them a chance in concert, "I'm sorry for you, not sorry for me".
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  03.07.2012 at 09:32
Written by Valentin B on 02.07.2012 at 00:44

but this version of Guns kicks serious ass. to the people who don't give them a chance in concert, "I'm sorry for you, not sorry for me".

You and I are alone on that one. I actually have a different opinion on Chinese Democracy each time I listen to it. Some times it sounds great, other times I can't stomach.

Either way, there really is no point in comparing it to old GnR, love it or hate it, it's a whole different band, and sounds like a whole different band. On one hand you could say one has more of a gritty charm to it, with much more of a youthful, energetic vibe. while the other is polished, diverse and technically proficient. The strengths lie in completely different areas, it all depends on what you value more in the music.
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Valentin B
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  03.07.2012 at 19:12
Written by Doc Godin on 03.07.2012 at 09:32

Written by Valentin B on 02.07.2012 at 00:44

but this version of Guns kicks serious ass. to the people who don't give them a chance in concert, "I'm sorry for you, not sorry for me".

You and I are alone on that one. I actually have a different opinion on Chinese Democracy each time I listen to it. Some times it sounds great, other times I can't stomach.

Either way, there really is no point in comparing it to old GnR, love it or hate it, it's a whole different band, and sounds like a whole different band. On one hand you could say one has more of a gritty charm to it, with much more of a youthful, energetic vibe. while the other is polished, diverse and technically proficient. The strengths lie in completely different areas, it all depends on what you value more in the music.

I guess you're right that these are two different bands, there have always been huge differences between their songs, for example compare the heavy and fast Nightrain or You Could Be Mine to piano ballads like Estranged or November Rain, I pretty much prefer the latter version of Guns.

Some people out there though, still nurture that hope that somehow Slash (because who cares about Izzy, Duff and Adler) will make peace with Rose and rejoin Guns, "because Guns ain't nothing without Slash". I am pretty sure that will never happen, at least while Axl has so much success and the band is doing so well. Chinese Democracy was a hit without any kind of input from the former members, Rose imo only owes them the name of the band as he has proven, although after quite some years, that he can keep the ship afloat without their help.

And scratch what I said above: the old version of Guns, that ship has sailed. I don't expect them to get back together again, it's a nice listen every now and then and the old songs sound great live, but I listen to it as I listen to Jimi Hendrix or good-vocals-era Queensryche. Good times, those were, but they ain't coming back.
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  04.07.2012 at 00:18
There's no way in hell I'd pay to see Axl Rose today. Sure, it's probably better than I imagine it to be, but still, for that money? No. Although I can agree with that Chinese Democracy isn't that bad. During it's bad moments, it really is bad. Horrible. But there's several tracks from it which I still have on my MP3. Though I never put on my physical copy of it.
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  20.07.2012 at 08:38
Written by Valentin B on 02.07.2012 at 00:44

I just saw them in concert, and my God, where the hell did Axl find these guys? they are some of the most talented musicians I've ever seen, they played for 3 fucking hours, the longest single concert i've ever seen and even at the very end still had the energy to run around and nail that awesome ending of Paradise City. I have never seen a band play that much with few if any fuckups, and apparently this was a typical show for this tour (only difference is that on some other festivals they were a bit more time-constrained, which did not happen here fortunately).

I still think the real GnR is with Slash, Izzy, Duff and Adler, in addition to Axl and Reed, but this version of Guns kicks serious ass. to the people who don't give them a chance in concert, "I'm sorry for you, not sorry for me".


they are a great live band and chinese democracy was a great album IMO. i still prefer the 2001/2002 lineup but this lineup is also killer
the current lineup (in case you didnt know their names)
axl rose- vocals
ron "bumblefoot" thal- guitar
richard fortus- guitar
dj ashba- guitar
tommy stinson- bass
frank ferrer- drums
chris pitman- keyboard/synth
dizzy reed- piano
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  22.07.2012 at 21:56
Written by Doc Godin on 03.07.2012 at 09:32

I actually have a different opinion on Chinese Democracy each time I listen to it. Some times it sounds great, other times I can't stomach.


You're not the only one. The album definitely has its depth, but I can't form a solid opinion on it. Sometimes I think it's amazing and other times I hear nothing but a filler after filler. And it has been going on from the first listening to this very day.

And reading Valentin B's experience with GnR live made me wanna see them even more! I hope they come play somewhere near, because even though I am also one of the Axl-Slash-Duff-Izzy-Adler = GnRers, I would so love to see Axl perform live.

p.s.: Just bought a new book about GnR. I know their story to the every last drop of it, but I dunno why, it never starts to bore me reading about it or watching documentaries.
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  23.07.2012 at 01:26
Written by AnGina-- on 22.07.2012 at 21:56

And reading Valentin B's experience with GnR live made me wanna see them even more! I hope they come play somewhere near, because even though I am also one of the Axl-Slash-Duff-Izzy-Adler = GnRers, I would so love to see Axl perform live.

p.s.: Just bought a new book about GnR. I know their story to the every last drop of it, but I dunno why, it never starts to bore me reading about it or watching documentaries.

oh, you definitely should, be warned, concert spoilers ahead . Axl is imo just one piece of the puzzle. I'm pretty sure you will be underwhelmed as his voice is very shrill and even annoying at times, but the real strength of the show was the instrumental proficiency of everyone on stage and how effortlessly they went through each song as if it was nothing, for 3 hours straight without almost any breaks. Bumblefoot especially surprised me when he went from some kind of solo acoustic improvisation absolutely seamlessly to the intro of "Don't Cry".

Axl and DJ Ashba were the only two who didn't actually play for pretty much the whole show and had a few breaks in between, but seriously the hat goes off to Fortus, Bumblefoot and the rhythm section. I have no idea what kind of cocaine the drummer is using, but it definitely works. I don't care if this is just a tribute band for some people out there, this kind of chemistry and musical dynamism is ridiculously rare and is worth the ticket price on its own.
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  15.02.2014 at 22:46
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/guns-n-roses-sweet-child-o-mine-like-youve-never-heard-it-before/
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  16.02.2014 at 23:53
I'll stick to the 1987 version...
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  18.02.2014 at 00:22
Written by deadone on 16.02.2014 at 23:53

I'll stick to the 1987 version...


Haha, my thoughts exactly.

The performance is good, no argue in that. I give them also high 5 for actually putting an effort and not making just another cover.

But that's not Sweet Child O'Mine. It doesn't have the flow or the edge that song holds and makes it special.
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