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Posted by !J.O.O.E.! on 18.05.2006 at 13:40
Pretty much single handedly responsible for getting me into metal altogether with their 'Toxicity' release. This is one amazing band, respected by critics and fans alike they create very original and unique music which can be appreciated on many levels as they take influence from all sorts of genres.

I've always had a bit a of a hard on for Serj's vocal style. He can be operatic and he can also bellow the house down if he wants to, one of the most distinctive vocals styles I've ever heard.

I've no doubt the "are they Nu Metal?" debate will come into play very soon, I for one don't see how they can be regarded as such, they simply have too many styles in their music to just be classified as simple nu metal.

Anyway, my personal fave album is their self titled debut, just a very chaotic release and very heavy and aggressive whilst having some crazy ass lyrics and compelling songwriting.

SUGAR!!!!!!!!



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deadone
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  16.06.2014 at 03:25
Written by RavenEffect on 03.06.2014 at 20:26

Written by deadone on 03.06.2014 at 02:10

Man I'm not hearing rap here.


This is /thread for me. The rap component is crystal in that specific song, so yeah...it's you who dont want to listen, or maybe you cant make a clear distinction



How about you put something similar that is rap/hip hop that sounds like the Coal Chamber rap bits?
RavenEffect

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  20.06.2014 at 12:07
There is no point in doing such. The lyrical structure of the song is Rap, plain and simple. The fact that you dont hear any rap there serves as an answer to your whole argument "Nu metal has little hiphop elements". Like JOE said, the problem is you being unable to identify those same elements, thus they arent present in those specific songs.

If you try analysing the Metrics on the lyrical component, you'll end up seing it resembles more, say, Public Enemy (merely an example) than Kreator. Hip-Hop has some very specific Metric (one of the reasons that make the whole genre so hard to innovate), unlike Metal, which is why its so easy to distinguis what Nu Metal actually is. Rap-based structured Lyrics doesnt mean the guys are using 101 Rap like Limp Bizkit or RATM, sometimes they use a Rispid Semi-Growl on top of that, other times theres some tone there. The Rap is still there, but mixed with a more Metal Vocal style, thus the word "Rap-Based Lyrical Style". Almost all of these bands do so. If you listen to, say, Corey singing, he oftenly shifts between normal Rap to Growl(somewhat) but the structure doesnt change.
Ganondox

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  20.06.2014 at 16:14
They were one of the first metal bands I got into (though at the time I called them hard rock, wouldn't call them hard rock now), and are still one of my favorite. Their music is very unique, I love just how zany it is, and also love all the Middle Eastern influences. I really want another album from these guys.
Troy Killjoy
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  20.06.2014 at 18:46
Written by Ganondox on 20.06.2014 at 16:14
I really want another album from these guys.

Get in line.
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Filthgrinder

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  20.06.2014 at 21:04
System of a Down is one of the first metal bands I started listening to. First two albums were Steal This Album! and Mesmerize. That song "Fuck the System" still makes me laugh to this day.

They really should make another album.
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Kristiko

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  14.05.2015 at 05:02
We need some new System music! Please, do a single, at least!
Guib

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  14.05.2015 at 20:25
Can't wait to see these guys in june!! #AmnesiaRockfest
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Sentinel65

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  18.05.2015 at 00:24
SOAD has been the favorite band of my only metalhead friend for years. He gave me their entire discography one day which really helped me appreciate them more. They have a very strange style that takes some getting used to, but eventually I've grown to love their wackiness. One really unique thing I've found about them is that even though their one of the quirkiest bands I've ever heard, a surprising amount of people that I have met who don't even listen to metal enjoy their more well known songs.
RavenEffect

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  25.05.2015 at 16:27
Written by Sentinel65 on 18.05.2015 at 00:24

SOAD has been the favorite band of my only metalhead friend for years. He gave me their entire discography one day which really helped me appreciate them more. They have a very strange style that takes some getting used to, but eventually I've grown to love their wackiness. One really unique thing I've found about them is that even though their one of the quirkiest bands I've ever heard, a surprising amount of people that I have met who don't even listen to metal enjoy their more well known songs.


This is the part that I don't agree at all. I think it's really easy to get into SOAD and that's exactly why they're so good in the first place, they have the oddest time signatures and but they attach everything with such good riffs and melodic hooks that becomes accessible to everyone.
Ganondox

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  26.05.2015 at 00:25
Written by RavenEffect on 25.05.2015 at 16:27

Written by Sentinel65 on 18.05.2015 at 00:24

SOAD has been the favorite band of my only metalhead friend for years. He gave me their entire discography one day which really helped me appreciate them more. They have a very strange style that takes some getting used to, but eventually I've grown to love their wackiness. One really unique thing I've found about them is that even though their one of the quirkiest bands I've ever heard, a surprising amount of people that I have met who don't even listen to metal enjoy their more well known songs.


This is the part that I don't agree at all. I think it's really easy to get into SOAD and that's exactly why they're so good in the first place, they have the oddest time signatures and but they attach everything with such good riffs and melodic hooks that becomes accessible to everyone.


It's not just the time signatures that are weird, in the world of metal that's probably the most normal thing about them. The thing that's the most obvious to people is the lyrics and Serj's eclectic vocal style, but they also use unusual instrumentation and modes, which give them a distinctively middle eastern flair. Really I think their bizarreness actually makes them more accessible, rather than less, as it draws people in.
deadone
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  26.05.2015 at 02:03
Written by Ganondox on 26.05.2015 at 00:25

Really I think their bizarreness actually makes them more accessible, rather than less, as it draws people in.



Totally agree. Most people I knew who liked them were attracted to the bizareness as well as the catchiness. Most people I knew who liked SOAD also weren't metal heads or even listened to that much metal other than Nu-metal. Local metalheads hated SOAD along with the rest of the Nu-metal/Alt Metal crowd.
Sentinel65

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  26.05.2015 at 17:57
I would definitely agree that their hooks and riffs draw people in, I was more referring to their strange vocals and lyrical content. Their bizareness making them more accessible is an interesting way to think about it, I'm sure this is true due to the fact that it makes them stand out to people. In my experience, which granted doesn't involve many other huge metal fans, the strange vocals and lyrics have initially turned people off compared with the instruments.
Warman
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  16.06.2015 at 18:41
Is this band still around? Never been a fan so that's why I'm wondering.
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Ganondox

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  17.06.2015 at 13:39
Written by Warman on 16.06.2015 at 18:41

Is this band still around? Never been a fan so that's why I'm wondering.


They recently reunited to tour, and are maybe doing another album. Before that they've been on hiatus forever.
Guib

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  23.06.2015 at 07:54
I saw them live last week... t'was fucking amazing !
I really hope they'll release some new material.
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  23.06.2015 at 19:47
Written by Guib on 23.06.2015 at 07:54

I saw them live last week... t'was fucking amazing !
I really hope they'll release some new material.


You could have drop a word in their ears related to new album.

They should come up with full new disc now.
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Guib

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  24.06.2015 at 03:50
Written by Cynic Metalhead on 23.06.2015 at 19:47

Written by Guib on 23.06.2015 at 07:54

I saw them live last week... t'was fucking amazing !
I really hope they'll release some new material.


You could have drop a word in their ears related to new album.

They should come up with full new disc now.


Drop a word in their ear lol what am I ? It's a festival, it's 1h30 am... and they don't even put an encore. What am I suppose to do lol
Jump the fences and escape the security while they rush to their tour bus lawl. I wish actually. Maybe next time.
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  25.06.2015 at 06:04
Written by Guib on 24.06.2015 at 03:50

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 23.06.2015 at 19:47

Written by Guib on 23.06.2015 at 07:54

I saw them live last week... t'was fucking amazing !
I really hope they'll release some new material.


You could have drop a word in their ears related to new album.

They should come up with full new disc now.


Drop a word in their ear lol what am I ? It's a festival, it's 1h30 am... and they don't even put an encore. What am I suppose to do lol
Jump the fences and escape the security while they rush to their tour bus lawl. I wish actually. Maybe next time.


YES YES and YES!

You could have jump the fences and drop a few words. This is how fans deliver personal messages to band members. =P
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