First of all, apologies if this was posted recently, I looked through all forum boards I thought to be relevant to this topic but haven't really found anything.

I have just seen this video and it provoked a rather strong emotional response from me. So while I intend this to be a post containing reasoning it will probably be written in an angry tone and word usage. This is for my own sake to be able to vent a bit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl1ujzRidmU&feature=youtu.be

I think what this guy did is fucking pathetic for a mutlitude of reasons.

Yeah what his daughter wrote was stupid as hell, however I'd say these thoughts are rather natural in every teenager of this age, be it justified or not. People who deny that are simply kidding themselves. And sometimes when these thoughts accumulate it does well for the individual to vent it. Of course doing that on a public facebook profile is a kind of bad way of doing it and this girl is kind of facebook generation at its "finest" which is not something I like or support in any shape or form.
However, fact still is these thoughts are gonna accumulate in EVERYONE and that includes the father, it is compeltely normal and natural. The medium through which this was expressed was unfortunate, however anyone with a brain (which is a rare thing amidst the facebook generation I admit, but now I am mostly talking about adults not the girl's probably equally stupid friends) will see this for what it is.

Also he is being completely naive if he thinks children, ANY (before some smartass comments on this, of course not every every. But thinking this is outside the norm is a delusion. The vast majority do.) children of this age don't use swearwords. After all it is cool, it is rebellious so they do. Guess what. NORMAL. ORDINARY. NOT DEVIANT FROM THE NORM.

The father's reaction is completely and utterly overblown.
-Destroying a laptop which costed fucktons of money for this purpose. GJ bro, money well spent, such a nice paragon for your child how to handle stuff. Meanwhile in Hungary, with the world's best economy... OK, my family is not in a bad state at all and while we aren't being very rich we have most things needed for a comfortable life but the mere thought that some people consider such a senseless destruction of valuable property an OK solution to anything is just ridiculous.

-Grounding. It has got to be one of the most counterproductive, pointless, retarded, idiotic, senseless, <insert any other word here that would imply people who employ it are mongoloids> punishment EVER made for children by parents. What is the point of doing it? Yeah nothing. Unless you think restricting your child's ability to interact with the fucking world, with other people (what vehement opponents of videogames and virtual stuff cite so often, and looking through this man's stuff, my gut feeling definitely tells me he is that kind of conservative who is against all that stuff) is positive to her development. But if you think that then your children should be confiscated and put into an orphanage or something for their own fucking sakes.

-Doing all this publically. Hello. Are you out of your mind? Do you even know how fucking teenagers work? If just one of them from her school sees this, and eventually one will, this vid seems to have gotten pretty viral lately, she will get bullied to no ends by her peers. There have been instances of teenagers committing SUICIDE because of sudden-came unintended online 'fame' which resulted in bullying. And even if it is not that severe in this case, ANY sort of bullying by peers is something terribly detrimental to a teenager's mental health. So congratualtions, best parent in the world for publically humiliating your child, NOT just in a small society but in the entire fucking interwebz, potentially exposing her to bullying that in the past had precedent of causing DEATHS. There is a line where I can still call punishment and/or educational methods I completely disgree with (and despise with a searing hate) on a fundamental level a difference of views, however this grossly steps over that line. I dare to say, anyone, I repeat ANYONE who thinks that there will be any positive from exposing a young person to peer bullying in the long run is a fucking idiot who should never ever even get near a child.

-Doing all this with a gun. Yes, I realize a gun was completely superfluous and the same thing could have been done with a hammer or even with fucking bare hand with no real difference in result. But the gesture... Essentially, with this he settled a family 'dispute' with the use of a weapon. A fucking WEAPON. Maybe I am the only one to take this to a symbolic level like this but man, this is just bad.

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such a nice paragon for your child how to handle stuff

Maybe his child will learn from this. Like, when in doubt how to handle some problematic stuff, use a gun. Sometimes it is the only way to be sure. Checking some other vids posted by the guy's youtube account makes me think he is obsessed by weapons anyways. I am a bit ambigous when it comes to what I think of the gun laws in the US but still I can't help but scream 'Oh you, USA' in my head as I write this since this entire case screams educational 'values' of that typical US conservativism which I hate so much anyways.

-Thinking this all will have any positive effect on the child. FYI, it will not. Taking her probably quite precious property is one thing. I consider that to be superflous and retarded as well, but that is one thing. Doing it the way he did (especially the public part) will probably ensure the girl will be even more spiteful and closed than ever. And this accumulated tension and angst will either linger to no good or burst one day, and that will not be a pleasant day. My parents generally were much better than this but the memory of the few not-so-pleasant things my father did to me (which are nothing on this level and my parents really weren't agressive at all) lingers even to this day. At 18 years of age, they of course won't do anything anymore that would realistically make it 'burst' but in case they did, I would probably strike back with 18 years of repressed anger and I really would not be in my father's position if this would happen. And mind you, I am not particularily violent person. I have lots of anger within me and I follow the good old LaVeyan belief, namely that hate is as natural of an emotion as everything else and as such I am not afraid to hate things which deserve my hatred (mind you, I love my parents, so I am not talking about them of course) but despite that I am not a violent person. Now I cannot imagine what I would have done if my father did something like this to me but I can say for sure it would not have been for the better. In fact it probably would have resulted in an extreme outburst of anger and at 15-16 years of age, one does have certain destructive potential, definitely more than some raging 10 years old kid.

The point of this last paragraph which seemed to be get longer than I intended is simple, this incident can and WILL cause lots of repressed anger, good job handling this all this mature so that instead of conveying some sort of understanding to that damn girl, it probably made her terribly bitter and resentful. Really positive thing, indeed. GJ GJ. Oh and also, by grounding her as well, she cannot even vent her bitterness to her friends in anyways, to insure maximum internal tension. Good job. REAL damn good job.

Also, completely segregating that poor child from the internet, yeah damn well done. People can preach whatever the fuck do they want but computers and the internet are a vital part of existence these days. One can say how he grew up without them in his days, that does not make a good and compelling argument. Thousands of years ago, humanity existed, so people grew up, just they did in pathetic circumstances. Just because it can be done does not mean it should be. Once again, to use myself as an example, on my PC, I have about 50 gigabytes of music on my HDD, as well as an assortment of video games, including World Of Warcraft, which I play on a relatively hardcore level for like 3 years now. Also, my circle of friends contain people of varying age and location, ranging from 15 to 22, some living in my city, others in smaller villages near it. Without Facebook, organising meetings would be a living hell and my contact with the larger circle would be limited to like once every 2 weeks when we go out. If someone took my PC, I'd be totally gutted. All the things I have mentioned above are all vital things for my sanity.
(In case someone would like to scoff at WoW, I speak english this well because of it, as surprising as it might sound I got most of my mathematical interests and knowledge (!) as a direct-indirect result of playing it, I have developed some of my anti-nationalistic and anti-discriminatory views thanks to playing it, and it gave me a wonderful community of people that is my guild, some of them who I know/regard almost as highly as some of my RL friends and a constant company when I would otherwise be sitting alone at home doing nothing - I'd call this pretty positive)
Possibly things are not this far-gone for that girl but I really do not think this degree of segregation is any positive and the bitterness of losing such a valuable and vital piece of your life forcibly will linger, I'd dare to say FOREVER.

I have to say how much 'likes' this video gets along with retarded comments is slightly disheartening.
I get this feeling some of the people commenting want their children to exist like a slave (I am not referring to the 'chores' now of course, that is completely okay), deduced from comments about 'disobedience'. People should educate their children to be watchful, think for themselves and question everything, not to be mindless robots. The problem is not being rebellious, it is being unreasonable while being rebellious. However that should be addressed by who knows, maybe sitting down and TALKING with him/her, not deprive him/her of all that he/she enjoys in her existence. And based on the fact that that the dude referred to previous 'groundings' when talked about her previous 'issues' I somehow get the gut feeling, that never happened in a way that should have happened.

Yes, I realise I came across as slandering christan america and conservativist beliefs in this text nuke, and so some people will probably be compelled to be upset. So here is a little note for those: I am slandering philosophical and religious beliefs, not people or countries (in fact, I'd rather countries didn't even exist, they are just invisible walls that needlessly divide people). And I realise that this is not only true for the US but defintely seems to be the norm there.
This topic is not just for venting my dissatisfaction with this method of 'parenting' but for discussion. So if you happen to completely disagree with my views, you are welcome to do so but please address my arguments if you wish to put that disagreement into words.

So, fellow Metalstorm users, what do you think of this all? Was the father's reaction completely okay?