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Posted by bj_waters on 20.03.2012 at 01:36
Because I must inflict this upon others, I give you two singles from Babymetal, the newest project from Japan for driving people like us insane.



It's like the worst parts of nu metal and J-Pop were blended together. And if you think this one was bad, watch the other one. Just wait for the "rap" segment. You'll know it when you see it.



inb4 Japan is weird. This goes beyond "weird;" this hurts. The thing is, I like some J-Pop (mostly because I like electronic music in general), and I like heavy metal (obviously), and I even wouldn't mind if there wasn't some kind of fusion between the two, but it would MOST DEFINITELY NOT sound like this. This is just painfully bad.

Nevertheless, my opinions aside, what are your reactions?



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Guib

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  12.08.2014 at 02:24
Just saw them... while waiting for Overkill at Heavy MTL... gotta say that most J-Pop elements (except for the girls obviously) leave completely when they're on stage, its mostly Metal. But
in all honesty, it still sucks. It's entertaining at best, but very disturbing. The guys handling the instruments are very skilled though and painted like Black Metallers.
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Fearmeister
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  17.08.2014 at 22:09
I love Babymetal, mainly due to the reactions that all of you people have when someone mentions them and for that, I think they are one of the most metal bands out there. Not too many bands can make all you hardasses freak out like little girls

I also like J-Pop so there...

EDIT: That being said, I am a firm believer that Babymetal needs to be featured on this site. The band, like it or not, has strong metal elements in its music. If this site lets stuff like Igorrr (which is not metal, its just breakcore with some metal guitars mixed in) on this site, then we can fucking have Babymetal on here.
krrrrebets

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  17.08.2014 at 22:23
Yeah let them be... It's just a bunch of kids doing their odd thing... It probably won't become as disturbingly big as some bland deathcore or glam as it once was.
Troy Killjoy
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  17.08.2014 at 22:24
Written by Fearmeister on 17.08.2014 at 22:09
EDIT: That being said, I am a firm believer that Babymetal needs to be featured on this site.

I was going to tell you to suggest them and see how many people agreed but then I looked them up in the suggestions page to see if they were already there and we have them blacklisted.

Might have to talk to some people about changing that...
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Marcel Hubregtse
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  17.08.2014 at 22:29
Written by Fearmeister on 17.08.2014 at 22:09

If this site lets stuff like Igorrr (which is not metal, its just breakcore with some metal guitars mixed in) on this site,


Which imo shouldn't be featured on this site.
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Karlabos
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  18.08.2014 at 00:05
Written by Fearmeister on 17.08.2014 at 22:09

EDIT: That being said, I am a firm believer that Babymetal needs to be featured on this site. The band, like it or not, has strong metal elements in its music. If this site lets stuff like Igorrr (which is not metal, its just breakcore with some metal guitars mixed in) on this site, then we can fucking have Babymetal on here.

I also agree with that. But it's not just because I like the band, but also because we are talking about a band which won the heavy metal award a while ago, which performs on big events like heavy montreal, which has like 8 million views on every video on youtube, and those things kind of indicate that they're somewhat relevant...

As for the "this is not metal" thing, I ask: why? Because they mix j-pop with nu-metal? this is called "genre fusion" and it's quite a common thing nowadays. You will see bands performing swing + symphonic metal, jazz + black metal and so on... Are those also not metal because of the jazz or the swing?

About the Igorrr thing, there are two sides: On one side it's not really metal. It's breakcore (actually it's something strange which lies among the breakcore spectrum)
By the other hand it's appealing to metalheads. So are some neofolk bands, dark ambient ones and so on. Some of them are featured on this site. Some are not. And we could stay all the day discussing whether those really belong here and each member would have a different point of view about it.

But anyway: Babymetal is not one of those cases. They are actually metal. And they are relevant. regardless of whether they are good or bad.
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AnnaNidstaang

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  18.08.2014 at 02:52
Written by Fearmeister on 17.08.2014 at 22:09

I love Babymetal, mainly due to the reactions that all of you people have when someone mentions them and for that, I think they are one of the most metal bands out there. Not too many bands can make all you hardasses freak out like little girls

I also like J-Pop so there...

EDIT: That being said, I am a firm believer that Babymetal needs to be featured on this site. The band, like it or not, has strong metal elements in its music. If this site lets stuff like Igorrr (which is not metal, its just breakcore with some metal guitars mixed in) on this site, then we can fucking have Babymetal on here.


Absolutely agree with the first part! The best part about them is making trve kvlt metalheads freak out.
And also agree with the Igorrr stuff. Both or no one.
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Ilham
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  18.08.2014 at 02:59
This is off-topic, but I still think it's pointless to argue whether or not a band has to be added because another one that happens to be less metal is already featured. For every example you will find a counter-example. This must have been said like a hundred times, sorry to be that boring person who brings it up again.
Fallen Ghost
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  18.08.2014 at 14:12
Is this band a metal band with J-Pop elements or a J-Pop band who likes to include some metal in their music?

Also, I find it VERY funny that some young asian chicks are making such a huge discussion on a serious metalsite
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Jtbmetal123

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  18.08.2014 at 16:52
Im not a fan of them. its think its crap. They need to get a real job.
Troy Killjoy
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  18.08.2014 at 17:16
Written by Jtbmetal123 on 18.08.2014 at 16:52
Im not a fan of them. its think its crap. They need to get a real job.

They probably have a higher annual income than a lot of posters in this thread...
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Fearmeister
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  18.08.2014 at 17:46
Written by Fallen Ghost on 18.08.2014 at 14:12

Is this band a metal band with J-Pop elements or a J-Pop band who likes to include some metal in their music?


More or less a mixture of the two. Both elements are constant in their songs with the metal is usually in the background while the J-Pop is in the forefront.
wrathchild

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  19.08.2014 at 00:19
It's worth mentioning that the 2 songs in the OP are the two that lean more towards J-pop. The intro to the album is, for instance, leaning toward melodeath with a touch of Nevermore:


Now I'm not even sure I want them officially featured, I mean I would like to but I just don't want to see a rise of immature comments as can be seen on blabbermouth everytime they post something about Babymetal. Sadly I don't think Metal Storm's audience is open-minded enough. But yeah, I'd be happy to have them removed from the blacklist.
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Guib

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  19.08.2014 at 01:21
Written by Fearmeister on 18.08.2014 at 17:46

Written by Fallen Ghost on 18.08.2014 at 14:12

Is this band a metal band with J-Pop elements or a J-Pop band who likes to include some metal in their music?


More or less a mixture of the two. Both elements are constant in their songs with the metal is usually in the background while the J-Pop is in the forefront.


Certainly not during their show.
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Fallen Ghost
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  19.08.2014 at 01:36
Written by Guib on 19.08.2014 at 01:21

Written by Fearmeister on 18.08.2014 at 17:46

More or less a mixture of the two. Both elements are constant in their songs with the metal is usually in the background while the J-Pop is in the forefront.


Certainly not during their show.


Checked a live performance on Youtube out of curiousity, didn't knew they could sound that heavy actually.. That is when the girls is not singing though, then it just sounds really comic
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cipheron

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  06.09.2014 at 02:40
This stuff isn't really new in Japan, but pop/metal fusion bands are pretty underground there. A large number bands been around doing stuff like this for years - cute japanese girls fronting metal bands of various types, usually related to the anime or gaming scene, doing metalized covers of jpop, anime music and game tracks.

It's kinda sad that Babymetal is a studio production / mass produced version and looks like it's going to become the "face" of this scene. In fact, Japanese metal bands with female vocals and some level of "cuteness" (usually perfoming in cosplay etc) are dime a dozen, going back way before these 15 year olds were signed up by their record label, but now any other existing bands of this type will now inevitably get labeled as "babymetal clones" if they start getting international recognition. And that really sucks.

Karlabos
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  07.09.2014 at 00:43
Written by cipheron on 06.09.2014 at 02:40

This stuff isn't really new in Japan, but pop/metal fusion bands are pretty underground there. A large number bands been around doing stuff like this for years - cute japanese girls fronting metal bands of various types, usually related to the anime or gaming scene, doing metalized covers of jpop, anime music and game tracks.


You mean like touhou metal? =P
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Guib

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  Today at 05:13
Written by wrathchild on 19.08.2014 at 00:19

It's worth mentioning that the 2 songs in the OP are the two that lean more towards J-pop. The intro to the album is, for instance, leaning toward melodeath with a touch of Nevermore:


Now I'm not even sure I want them officially featured, I mean I would like to but I just don't want to see a rise of immature comments as can be seen on blabbermouth everytime they post something about Babymetal. Sadly I don't think Metal Storm's audience is open-minded enough. But yeah, I'd be happy to have them removed from the blacklist.


They are blacklisted ? Lol, gosh. Well not that I care that much but yeah, you're right that doesn't sound too open-minded.
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Skeletonryche95

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  Today at 12:33
Never thought babymetal would actually become a thing since this topic was created. Seen them featured in Metal Hammer uk recently. Good for them, I guess.

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