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Tristus Scriptor
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  16.04.2012 at 05:08
I'm not a person who loves a bloody battle with allies (METAL fans), I just want to simply get down to a good bit of suggesting and discussing of bands with the modern elements of brutal death metal that have become so popular lately, yet that would still appeal to an exteme metal veteran. For instance; I personally find much enjoyment in Inherit Disease, Pathology, Viscera Trail, Condemned, etc. I do NOT want to meticulously dissect every teensy-weensy little aspect of what's IN or not, whether a band is technically "this" or "that"...Those bands I just listed seem to be popular with the n00bs of br00tality, yet appeal to to a 31-year old like me that got into the brUtality of Morbid Angel and Cannibal Corpse when he was somewhere around 8 or 9. Let's be helpful and keep it friendly. If there's one thing I can't stand is people treating metal bands like football teams! (By the way, I put "slammy" in quotations for a few reasons...make of it what you will...)
Troy Killjoy
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  16.04.2012 at 05:51
Written by Tristus Scriptor on 16.04.2012 at 05:08
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Check out some bands from labels like Brutal Bands, Comatose Music, Sevared Records, and Unique Leader Records.

Pathology and Abominable Putridity are two of my favorites, although bands like Abnormity and Cerebral Effusion are worth their weight in breakdowns.
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Tristus Scriptor
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  16.04.2012 at 06:15
Written by Troy Killjoy on 16.04.2012 at 05:51

Written by Tristus Scriptor on 16.04.2012 at 05:08
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Check out some bands from labels like Brutal Bands, Comatose Music, Sevared Records, and Unique Leader Records.

Pathology and Abominable Putridity are two of my favorites, although bands like Abnormity and Cerebral Effusion are worth their weight in breakdowns.

Oh yes, I've checked out quite a few bands from Unique Leader and Sevared... I'll do a search for the other two. I have my days when all four of the bands you mentioned work for me, yet, like any "Suffocation is the real deal"- kinda guy, I need more than just chunk, chunk, groove, groove, pig/cricket voice...or, truly, it's just Coal Chamber's debut, covered in slime, and sprinkled with blast beats here and there to me. Know what I mean? I need to check out more Aboninable Putridity. Lately,I just want to find more stuff like Inherit Disease...
Troy Killjoy
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  16.04.2012 at 06:23
Written by Tristus Scriptor on 16.04.2012 at 06:15
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Have you tried Vulvectomy or Pus Vomit yet? Some foreign bdm done right by these ears.
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Tristus Scriptor
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  16.04.2012 at 06:28
I'll give it a serious listen. I'm always browsin' around. I just miss that feeling I got back in the day when I heard Embalmer's "There Was Blood Everywhere" with those (at the time) somewhat unusual elements that seemed to foul it up even more. Now THAT's a sick CD.
BlueMobius
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  16.04.2012 at 07:47
Devourment have been kickin hard since 1995. I would suggest some of their stuff.
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  16.04.2012 at 12:25
How about some Infernal Revulsion? An Epic Conviction is a remastered version of their entire discography (two full lengths and an additional track), so that album is all you need from them.
Doom Trooper

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  16.04.2012 at 15:25
Not exacty full on slam. More of a blend of tech death and brutal death with slam tendencies here and there. Check out Defeated Sanity. Specificaly check out their latest release, Chapters Of Repugnance.
Branzig

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  16.04.2012 at 18:01
Razorback records.

Brutal, Thrashing, Old Skool Death Metal!
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  16.04.2012 at 18:53
Written by Branzig on 16.04.2012 at 18:01

Razorback records.

Brutal, Thrashing, Old Skool Death Metal!


But thank God not "slammy"
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  17.04.2012 at 00:53
Putrid Pile
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Tristus Scriptor
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  17.04.2012 at 02:05
Written by BlueMobius on 16.04.2012 at 07:47

Devourment have been kickin hard since 1995. I would suggest some of their stuff.

Yes, sir. I, fortunately, have discovered that this is true.
Tristus Scriptor
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  17.04.2012 at 02:07
Written by theflyingmachine on 16.04.2012 at 12:25

How about some Infernal Revulsion? An Epic Conviction is a remastered version of their entire discography (two full lengths and an additional track), so that album is all you need from them.

Wow, glad I started this topic. Y'all are very helpful. I'll be lookin' into it.
Tristus Scriptor
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  17.04.2012 at 02:09
Written by Doom Trooper on 16.04.2012 at 15:25

Not exacty full on slam. More of a blend of tech death and brutal death with slam tendencies here and there. Check out Defeated Sanity. Specificaly check out their latest release, Chapters Of Repugnance.

Yah, I do dig them already. But, like my preface to all of this- I'm not looking to dissect all the tendencies and technicalities of sub-genres...just want more groovy, vomity, TALENTED modern death metal.
Tristus Scriptor
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  17.04.2012 at 02:11
Written by Branzig on 16.04.2012 at 18:01

Razorback records.

Brutal, Thrashing, Old Skool Death Metal!

Now, I'm ALL ABOUT some Razorback bands. Great stuff. Especially Acid Witch, but they're not really the style I was trying to expand upon here, lol.
Tristus Scriptor
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  17.04.2012 at 02:12
Written by Boxcar Willy on 17.04.2012 at 00:53

Putrid Pile

BUT OF COURSE! Love that dude. His stuff is top notch.
Tristus Scriptor
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  17.04.2012 at 02:15
Written by Ozman on 16.04.2012 at 18:53

Written by Branzig on 16.04.2012 at 18:01

Razorback records.

Brutal, Thrashing, Old Skool Death Metal!


But thank God not "slammy"

I'm with you about your condemnation of that fairly new, overused term; but that is what this thread is all about- a fan of death metal (like me) who would like to suggest, and have things suggested, to open minded metal heads. I guess, all in all, I'm looking for more good NYDM sounding bands, really.
Tristus Scriptor
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  17.04.2012 at 02:25
Troy, I definitely dig Pus Vomit. That is what I was trying to get at, right there.
Troy Killjoy
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  17.04.2012 at 04:38
Written by Tristus Scriptor on 17.04.2012 at 02:25
Troy, I definitely dig Pus Vomit. That is what I was trying to get at, right there.

Glad to be of service!
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Branzig

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  17.04.2012 at 06:18
Written by Ozman on 16.04.2012 at 18:53

But thank God not "slammy"



I'm not even 100% sure what "Slammy" means.

I just thought of thrashing old school death metal that makes me want to pit, and the first thing that came to mind was grindcore and old school death a la Razorback haha.
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Troy Killjoy
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  17.04.2012 at 06:40
Written by Branzig on 17.04.2012 at 06:18
I'm not even 100% sure what "Slammy" means.

Slam death is a sub-style of brutal death metal that emphasizes palm-muted riffing at mid-tempo pace.

It kind of works like groove compared to thrash.

There's also some hip-hop elements in slam death (hence why some people call it "wigger death metal").
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Tristus Scriptor
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  17.04.2012 at 08:59
Written by Branzig on 17.04.2012 at 06:18

Written by Ozman on 16.04.2012 at 18:53

But thank God not "slammy"



I'm not even 100% sure what "Slammy" means.

I just thought of thrashing old school death metal that makes me want to pit, and the first thing that came to mind was grindcore and old school death a la Razorback haha.

Well, I don't mean to contradict or even argue, but (like I said in the description of the topic) I put "slammy" in quotations for a reason. But since I muuussst....I will admit that it was semi-sarcastic. Troy seems to have summed it up a tad too simply. (No offense, mate.) I do not like hip-hop, personally. Also, the only thing I see that is similar is emphasis on rhythmic groove, and the acceptance (and even trend, for some reason) of wearing baseball caps. But I'd like to think that none of us on this site are wiggers...*cough, cough* I am also sad that fashion seems to matter at all...sad we even slightly have the need to mention it. I suppose, yes, if you were to try to get a buddy from the ghetto into death metal, you'd show him a part of some of these newer band's songs that would be contemporarily dubbed a "slam" part. Furthermore, one of the problems I have with this style is that it seems that most of these lazy new bands take influence from a single part of a legendary song (Suffo's "Leige of Inveracity"- the part where they get all chug-chug and shit) and build off of that ALONE. I could have called the topic headline "Death Metal With Groove and Fathomlessly Deep Vocals That DOESN'T Suck Donkey Dick"...but I reeeaaallly try to be cooler than that, haha!
Troy Killjoy
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  17.04.2012 at 09:36
Written by Tristus Scriptor on 17.04.2012 at 08:59
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I wasn't going to write a dissertation since this thread is more about recommendations as opposed to the meaning of a word, but I think I did a pretty good job explaining the gist of the genre in about three simple sentences.

As for hip-hop elements, I'm pretty sure a lot of the drum patterns are based on the drum and bass genre.

Fashion doesn't play a part in the sound, but it does play a part in the scene (i.e. black metal and corpsepaint).

And if you don't like bands forming a new genre based on one particular, seemingly insignificant element of another band's sound, I take it you aren't a fan of djent.
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Tristus Scriptor
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  17.04.2012 at 09:52
Written by Troy Killjoy on 17.04.2012 at 09:36

Written by Tristus Scriptor on 17.04.2012 at 08:59
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I wasn't going to write a dissertation since this thread is more about recommendations as opposed to the meaning of a word, but I think I did a pretty good job explaining the gist of the genre in about three simple sentences.

As for hip-hop elements, I'm pretty sure a lot of the drum patterns are based on the drum and bass genre.

Fashion doesn't play a part in the sound, but it does play a part in the scene (i.e. black metal and corpsepaint).

And if you don't like bands forming a new genre based on one particular, seemingly insignificant element of another band's sound, I take it you aren't a fan of djent.

Well, not really, as a matter of fact, lol. But that really is beside my point. And I just didn't want the dude to think that a bunch of dudes in ADIDAS were riding around in low riders growl-rapping about eating out two biches at a club and killing them...(which, in your defense, I wouldn't put it past some of them, HAHA!)...A lot of these bands with the NYDM influence are good, and very enjoyable, despite the bullshit getting spread via forums *cough, cough*...DAMN...excuse me...I gotta get that fixed!
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  17.04.2012 at 10:51
Just thought I'd take this opportunity to say that parentheses are brackets (these). What I see in the title are speech marks, quote or quotation marks, or (mostly European?) "inverted commas" (I think based on German writers' style of making them curvy or diagonal).

At the end of the last sentence I used brackets/parentheses, quotation marks, then brackets/parentheses with an apostrophe inside.

With regard to band suggestions, all I have to offer are Enthrallment, Human Mincer, Infected Disarray and Detrimentum. No guarantees that they all fit your criteria... eh.
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Tristus Scriptor
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  17.04.2012 at 11:23
Written by Syk on 17.04.2012 at 10:51

Just thought I'd take this opportunity to say that parentheses are brackets (these). What I see in the title are speech marks, quote or quotation marks, or (mostly European?) "inverted commas" (I think based on German writers' style of making them curvy or diagonal).

At the end of the last sentence I used brackets/parentheses, quotation marks, then brackets/parentheses with an apostrophe inside.

With regard to band suggestions, all I have to offer are Enthrallment, Human Mincer, Infected Disarray and Detrimentum. No guarantees that they all fit your criteria... eh.

Actually, you are right on the money with that correction, as I'm a grammar nazi (and so is my wife), and we are constantly doing exactly what you just did...And I KNOW this, dammit! That little brain glitch of mine is something I find myself mixing up between the two quite often, especially when I'm focused more on subject matter than correct punctuation. I tend to do the same kind of mixup with the numbers 4 and 7, as well as tongs and skewers, haha! (Needless to say, I was glad you corrected this little pet-peeve of mine, and I went back and changed it.) Glad it was here as opposed to a writer's group or something, haha!
Anyway, I will definitely put those bands on my list of things to check out! Thanks!
Branzig

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  17.04.2012 at 17:48
Hmmm I think I'll pass on this whole "Slammy Death Metally" thing haha.

If I am looking for death metal that is chuggy and groove oriented, I will just pop in some Obituary or some awesome groovin' goregrind!
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Tristus Scriptor
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  17.04.2012 at 20:55
Written by Branzig on 17.04.2012 at 17:48

Hmmm I think I'll pass on this whole "Slammy Death Metally" thing haha.

If I am looking for death metal that is chuggy and groove oriented, I will just pop in some Obituary or some awesome groovin' goregrind!

Haha, I getcha. But remember, I meant it as semi-sarcastic; y'know, it's like if a metal band uses any amount of groove, they're called either "nu" or "metalcore" or whatever. My whole point was to suggest bands to one another that people are throwing the "slam" term around about, when they are actually just death metal bands that love Suffocation, Internal Bleeding, hell....even Mortician, hehe. In fact, for another summary of style that we are trying to get at- just imagine those three bands kinda put into a blender, with a little more emphasis on indecipherable vocals, and that's what a lot of these bands sound like. BTW, to quote many cinematic and/or animated villains: "We're not so different, you and I." Remember- I called it "For the Old-Schooler" and I meant stuff people like us would actually like.
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  17.04.2012 at 22:10
Written by Tristus Scriptor on 17.04.2012 at 20:55

...it's like if a metal band uses any amount of groove, they're called either "nu" or "metalcore" or whatever...just imagine those three bands kinda put into a blender, with a little more emphasis on indecipherable vocals, and that's what a lot of these bands sound like.


Hmm...

Brutal Slamming Pits, Grooves, Chugs, Indecipherable vocals, I am assuming extreme down-tuned guitars (Like C or A tuning).

I think it is actually Goregrind/Pornogrind you are talking about
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Tristus Scriptor
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  18.04.2012 at 09:53
Written by Branzig on 17.04.2012 at 22:10

Written by Tristus Scriptor on 17.04.2012 at 20:55

...it's like if a metal band uses any amount of groove, they're called either "nu" or "metalcore" or whatever...just imagine those three bands kinda put into a blender, with a little more emphasis on indecipherable vocals, and that's what a lot of these bands sound like.


Hmm...

Brutal Slamming Pits, Grooves, Chugs, Indecipherable vocals, I am assuming extreme down-tuned guitars (Like C or A tuning).

I think it is actually Goregrind/Pornogrind you are talking about

You are basically correct. Like I said, "slam" is this new term...like in the late 90s I was in a melodic death metal band that was highly influenced by At the Gates...by today's standards, we'd be mislabeled "metalcore"...which would be bullshit. But what can you do, other than whimsically discuss it like we all are doing here...

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