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Zealot644

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  10.05.2012 at 02:52
Thread title.

I'm looking to expand my musical tastes into the unexplored (for me) territory of doom and black metal. The closest thing to doom that I listen to is Woods of Ypres and I listen to zero true black metal (Although, I found http://www.invisibleoranges.com/2012/04/io-exclusive-track-stream-dawnbringers-vii/ which I like) I also accept other suggestions (different genres) of more obscure bands that should be listened to, so suggest away, but first I have a few things I want specifically:

-Modern (Recent releases I may have missed perhaps? I dont want anything too old - I have trouble with listening to old black/doom metal because I cant tell songs apart)
-Good Production (Not mandatory, but it's a huge plus to me)

With my specifications I'm sure I cut out a whole bunch of stuff, but I'm pretty picky with the two subgenres and I cant help it. Anyways, thanks.
(There was some new album by a German (I think) guy with the album art being a tree or something... It's recent within the last year - I'm trying to remember who it was)
Darkfiber

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  10.05.2012 at 10:42
I'd be happy to give you some suggestions but there are so many bands in those two genres I wouldn't know where to start. What kind of doom are you looking for? Classic stoner doom (heavy slow rock sound) or more funeral doom (symphonic, dark, brooding sound)? Are you looking for more slow, dark, atmospheric black metal, or something fast paced and catchy? What kind of genres do you normally listen to? Would you be open to bands who mix these two genres with other genres of metal or are you specifically looking for straight up cookie cutter bands in this genre? Give me a little more info and I'd be glad to try and narrow it down to a few good bands that are easy to digest for someone new to these genres.
Koen Smits

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  10.05.2012 at 11:00
Written by Zealot644 on 10.05.2012 at 02:52

(There was some new album by a German (I think) guy with the album art being a tree or something... It's recent within the last year - I'm trying to remember who it was)


That would be Lantlôs - Agape: not my favorite style black metal but if I need to make a choice I prefer .Neon from 2010
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Zealot644

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  10.05.2012 at 14:36
Written by Darkfiber on 10.05.2012 at 10:42

I'd be happy to give you some suggestions but there are so many bands in those two genres I wouldn't know where to start. What kind of doom are you looking for? Classic stoner doom (heavy slow rock sound) or more funeral doom (symphonic, dark, brooding sound)? Are you looking for more slow, dark, atmospheric black metal, or something fast paced and catchy? What kind of genres do you normally listen to? Would you be open to bands who mix these two genres with other genres of metal or are you specifically looking for straight up cookie cutter bands in this genre? Give me a little more info and I'd be glad to try and narrow it down to a few good bands that are easy to digest for someone new to these genres.


At this point, assuming you have favorites from the different spectrums you describe, just show me some of your favorites. I really dont know what I'm looking for yet.

As for what I mostly listen to: Death Metal, Melodeath, Techdeath, some Deathcore, some Metalcore, prog metal, some Djent, etc. Any bands that mix genres tend to be a plus to me because it leads to more interesting music, but I can deal with bands who only make one style.

This is a small selection I quickly put in my iPhone: http://i.imgur.com/Ta5cl.jpg (big pictures is the purpose)
And this is a picture of my music folder, not including physical CD's I own: http://i.imgur.com/Ik0Zc.png (8GB iPhone sucks for getting your library)

Hopefully that helps.
BoxCar Willy
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  10.05.2012 at 14:39
Written by Zealot644 on 10.05.2012 at 02:52

Thread title.


Black: start out with the folkier and more melodic stuff like Agalloch, and Oak Pantheon. Then move into the rawer classics, I personally love Transilvanian Hunger.

Doom: I'm a noob here as well
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Zealot644

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Age: 19
From: Canada

  10.05.2012 at 14:47
Written by BoxCar Willy on 10.05.2012 at 14:39

Written by Zealot644 on 10.05.2012 at 02:52

Thread title.


Black: start out with the folkier and more melodic stuff like Agalloch, and Oak Pantheon. Then move into the rawer classics, I personally love Transilvanian Hunger.

Doom: I'm a noob here as well


I'll look into that once school is over for the day.
BoxCar Willy
John Doe

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  10.05.2012 at 14:53
Written by Zealot644 on 10.05.2012 at 14:47

Written by BoxCar Willy on 10.05.2012 at 14:39

Written by Zealot644 on 10.05.2012 at 02:52

Thread title.


Black: start out with the folkier and more melodic stuff like Agalloch, and Oak Pantheon. Then move into the rawer classics, I personally love Transilvanian Hunger.

Doom: I'm a noob here as well


I'll look into that once school is over for the day.

You might also like the Shoegaze stuff, like Deafheaven and Alcest or even WITTR, I found those easy to get into as well
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Troy Killjoy
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  10.05.2012 at 17:05
1. Use "search" function.
2. Search keyword "black metal".
3. Search keyword "doom metal".
4. Read threads, discover music.
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Troy Killjoy
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  10.05.2012 at 17:16
Written by BoxCar Willy on 10.05.2012 at 14:39
Black: start out with the folkier and more melodic stuff like Agalloch, and Oak Pantheon. Then move into the rawer classics, I personally love Transilvanian Hunger.

Seeing how neither Agalloch nor Oak Pantheon embody the "true" essence of black metal, it seems rather odd to suggest either as a place to start for someone looking to get into more "true" black metal.

What you'd usually recommend is the Peaceville trilogy (obviously), Burzum (pre-prison releases), and possibly even black metal-era Behemoth. Those are essentially the "easiest" rawer black metal releases to get into, not to mention Gorgoroth's back catalog, Satyricon's pre-2000 works, and then some "warmer" stuff like Judas Iscariot. Not to mention Marduk and Mayhem... The early Norwegian, Finnish, and American scenes are excellent places to start for traditional black metal.

Then of course you get into some more melodic hybrid stuff (Dissection, Emperor, Dimmu Borgir) if the raw stuff is too much to jump into. Or even just throw Bathory into the mix as a starting point. Or other hybrid stuff like Anaal Nathrakh or Impaled Nazarene. And then anything "weird" from France and all the cosmic shit like Darkspace/Skullreader.
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Oaken
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  10.05.2012 at 17:22
Drudkh was one of the black metal bands I got into very easily. Start with Autumn Aurora. Very, very atmospheric.
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Edmund Fogg

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  10.05.2012 at 17:32
Written by Troy Killjoy on 10.05.2012 at 17:05

1. Use "search" function.
2. Search keyword "black metal".
3. Search keyword "doom metal".
4. Read threads, discover music.


Nope, That won't work, as it would require some kind of effort. Music has become so accesible that even for more "undeground" styles, people forgot the thrill of the chase.
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Troy Killjoy
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  10.05.2012 at 17:41
Written by Edmund Fogg on 10.05.2012 at 17:32
Nope, That won't work, as it would require some kind of effort.

Of course, what was I thinking...
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Koen Smits

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  10.05.2012 at 17:47
Written by Troy Killjoy on 10.05.2012 at 17:16

Or other hybrid stuff like Anaal Nathrakh or Impaled Nazarene. And then anything "weird" from France and all the cosmic shit like Darkspace/Skullreader.


I don't think Anaal Nathrakh or Impaled Nazarene are so easy to get into, especially Anaal Nathrakh.

I agree on the melo stuff:

from Sweden: Dark Fortress, Siebenburgen, Naglfar or more black/death Sacramentum, Unanimated, Necrophobic
from Norway: Ancient, Old Man's Child, Keep Of Kalessin, Vreid
from the Netherlands: Slechtvalk, Carach Angren (more sympho)
from Belgium: Axamenta, Saille (more sympho)
and so on...all easily to get into
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Troy Killjoy
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  10.05.2012 at 17:53
Written by Koen Smits on 10.05.2012 at 17:47
and so on...all easily to get into

I know he requested "easy to get into" and "modern" but I feel like if you're gonna get into black metal, you might as well just grab the bull by the horns.
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BestMetalstormer

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  10.05.2012 at 18:28
Anaal Nathrakh is hard to get into ? Check following:

-Between Shit and Piss we are born
-The Lion Devours Both Dragon and Child

-All most stuff of the Hell Is Empty, All Devil Here

- More Fire than Blood
- In the constellation of black widow

check out the songs I mention, the last one Passion album is good too though I have not digged much so no comment for...
BoxCar Willy
John Doe

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  10.05.2012 at 21:27
Written by Troy Killjoy on 10.05.2012 at 17:16

Written by BoxCar Willy on 10.05.2012 at 14:39
Black: start out with the folkier and more melodic stuff like Agalloch, and Oak Pantheon. Then move into the rawer classics, I personally love Transilvanian Hunger.

Seeing how neither Agalloch nor Oak Pantheon embody the "true" essence of black metal, it seems rather odd to suggest either as a place to start for someone looking to get into more "true" black metal.


I just find that it's the easiest foprm to get into, and it's what I started with.

I also agree that it's all about "The Thrill of the chase"

I love discovering new bands via MS or YT or whatever.
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Darkfiber

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From: Canada

  10.05.2012 at 21:33
Written by Zealot644 on 10.05.2012 at 14:36

Written by Darkfiber on 10.05.2012 at 10:42

I'd be happy to give you some suggestions but there are so many bands in those two genres I wouldn't know where to start. What kind of doom are you looking for? Classic stoner doom (heavy slow rock sound) or more funeral doom (symphonic, dark, brooding sound)? Are you looking for more slow, dark, atmospheric black metal, or something fast paced and catchy? What kind of genres do you normally listen to? Would you be open to bands who mix these two genres with other genres of metal or are you specifically looking for straight up cookie cutter bands in this genre? Give me a little more info and I'd be glad to try and narrow it down to a few good bands that are easy to digest for someone new to these genres.


At this point, assuming you have favorites from the different spectrums you describe, just show me some of your favorites. I really dont know what I'm looking for yet.

As for what I mostly listen to: Death Metal, Melodeath, Techdeath, some Deathcore, some Metalcore, prog metal, some Djent, etc. Any bands that mix genres tend to be a plus to me because it leads to more interesting music, but I can deal with bands who only make one style.

This is a small selection I quickly put in my iPhone: http://i.imgur.com/Ta5cl.jpg (big pictures is the purpose)
And this is a picture of my music folder, not including physical CD's I own: http://i.imgur.com/Ik0Zc.png (8GB iPhone sucks for getting your library)

Hopefully that helps.


Let me know if you like any of these styles and I can suggest some more. Most of these bands are easy to listen to for someone new to these genres.

- Good "gateway" stoner doom band: Electric Wizard.




- You may like something like Sunn O))), which is a drone/doom band that mixes some black metal elements.




- For funeral doom (since you seem to like harsh death vocals) I suggest something like Shape of Despair.




- I think someone else suggested Naglfar, which is a fun, easy black metal band to get into with good production values and varied, memorable tunes.




- Another you may like with clean production and catchy riffs that is easy to listen to is Agathodaimon.




- Lastly, in the vein of more traditional Norwegian black metal, my personal favourite, Obtained Enslavement. More of a raw sound but very melodic.

Zealot644

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Age: 19
From: Canada

  11.05.2012 at 10:17
Wall o' quotes a coming!

Written by BoxCar Willy on 10.05.2012 at 14:39

Written by Zealot644 on 10.05.2012 at 02:52

Thread title.


Black: start out with the folkier and more melodic stuff like Agalloch, and Oak Pantheon. Then move into the rawer classics, I personally love Transilvanian Hunger.

Doom: I'm a noob here as well


I like Agalloch and Oak Pantheon is okay (although I may have to get used to the vocals). I also checked out the other things you listed and out of those I like Alcest.

Written by Oaken on 10.05.2012 at 17:22

Drudkh was one of the black metal bands I got into very easily. Start with Autumn Aurora. Very, very atmospheric.


Checked out Autumn Aurora and liked it.

Written by Troy Killjoy on 10.05.2012 at 17:53

Written by Koen Smits on 10.05.2012 at 17:47
and so on...all easily to get into

I know he requested "easy to get into" and "modern" but I feel like if you're gonna get into black metal, you might as well just grab the bull by the horns.


Unfortunately that approach hasnt worked for me at all. I've tried before without success.

Written by BestMetalstormer on 10.05.2012 at 18:28

Anaal Nathrakh is hard to get into ? Check following:

-Between Shit and Piss we are born
-The Lion Devours Both Dragon and Child

-All most stuff of the Hell Is Empty, All Devil Here

- More Fire than Blood
- In the constellation of black widow

check out the songs I mention, the last one Passion album is good too though I have not digged much so no comment for...


They're a bit extreme for my usual tastes, but I liked the sound. Especially Between Shit and Piss and More Fire Than Blood.

Written by Darkfiber on 10.05.2012 at 21:33

Written by Zealot644 on 10.05.2012 at 14:36

Written by Darkfiber on 10.05.2012 at 10:42

I'd be happy to give you some suggestions but there are so many bands in those two genres I wouldn't know where to start. What kind of doom are you looking for? Classic stoner doom (heavy slow rock sound) or more funeral doom (symphonic, dark, brooding sound)? Are you looking for more slow, dark, atmospheric black metal, or something fast paced and catchy? What kind of genres do you normally listen to? Would you be open to bands who mix these two genres with other genres of metal or are you specifically looking for straight up cookie cutter bands in this genre? Give me a little more info and I'd be glad to try and narrow it down to a few good bands that are easy to digest for someone new to these genres.


At this point, assuming you have favorites from the different spectrums you describe, just show me some of your favorites. I really dont know what I'm looking for yet.

As for what I mostly listen to: Death Metal, Melodeath, Techdeath, some Deathcore, some Metalcore, prog metal, some Djent, etc. Any bands that mix genres tend to be a plus to me because it leads to more interesting music, but I can deal with bands who only make one style.

This is a small selection I quickly put in my iPhone: http://i.imgur.com/Ta5cl.jpg (big pictures is the purpose)
And this is a picture of my music folder, not including physical CD's I own: http://i.imgur.com/Ik0Zc.png (8GB iPhone sucks for getting your library)

Hopefully that helps.


Let me know if you like any of these styles and I can suggest some more. Most of these bands are easy to listen to for someone new to these genres.

- Good "gateway" stoner doom band: Electric Wizard.




- You may like something like Sunn O))), which is a drone/doom band that mixes some black metal elements.




- For funeral doom (since you seem to like harsh death vocals) I suggest something like Shape of Despair.



- I think someone else suggested Naglfar, which is a fun, easy black metal band to get into with good production values and varied, memorable tunes.




- Another you may like with clean production and catchy riffs that is easy to listen to is Agathodaimon.




- Lastly, in the vein of more traditional Norwegian black metal, my personal favourite, Obtained Enslavement. More of a raw sound but very melodic.




Electric Wizard was instantly catchy. I like that.
Sun O))) sounded pretty good. Definitely could hear the drone aspect.
Shape of Despair was pretty good. Like Sun O))), the sound may have to grow on me a bit.
Nalfgar was good. I was turned off a bit at the start of the song but it progressed into something pretty catchy.
Agathodaimon definitely had good production. Nothing stood out, but it wasnt bad.
Obtained Enslavement was melodic - I've just gotta learn how to tune my ear for this stuff. Probably similar with how I got into metal early on through easing myself into more extreme music.


Hopefully some of my responses help direct towards what else I may like. I'm still open to similar sounds of those which did not catch me right away, so continue
Cill O' Connor

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  11.05.2012 at 10:25
Written by Zealot644 on 10.05.2012 at 14:47

Written by BoxCar Willy on 10.05.2012 at 14:39

Written by Zealot644 on 10.05.2012 at 02:52

Thread title.


Black: start out with the folkier and more melodic stuff like Agalloch, and Oak Pantheon. Then move into the rawer classics, I personally love Transilvanian Hunger.

Doom: I'm a noob here as well


I'll look into that once school is over for the day.

Conisdering production is a big deal to you, I would advise you to stay well away from Transilvanian Hunger. If you're not a fan of that raw black metal sound then it probably won't be to your taste. Maybe try 'At The Heart Of Winter' by Immortal?
Grey Wind

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  11.05.2012 at 11:29
I highly recommend you try Akercocke. They play this sort of very sinister yet modern accessible blackened death metal with prog elements.
It Might do it for you since you said you love DM and Prog metal. Here's an example track off their older album - The Goat of Mendes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw0qZZdxL8U&feature=related . For more proggy stuff try a track off their newer album, "Words that go unspoken, deeds that go undone": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT0XhmrDoFQ&feature=relmfu. I Hope this was helpful!
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M C Vice
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  11.05.2012 at 13:50
A Forest Of Stars, Darkened Nocturn Slaughtercult, Sigh, Chthonic, Ancient and Celtic Frost are my favorite black metal acts that havn't been mentioned yet. And one other, but if I say their name there'll be 20 people screaming no.
Doom: Candlemass, Isole, Ixion, Thorr's Hammer. And Virgin Black's last album (Requiem:Fortissimo).
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BlueMobius
Ronin

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  11.05.2012 at 14:22
This might help

and oh, try this.
BoxCar Willy
John Doe

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  11.05.2012 at 14:31
Written by M C Vice on 11.05.2012 at 13:50

And one other, but if I say their name there'll be 20 people screaming no.


Gallhammer?

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  11.05.2012 at 14:37
Written by M C Vice on 11.05.2012 at 13:50

Virgin Black's last album (Requiem:Fortissimo).


Horribly overrate doomy gothic
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John Doe

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  11.05.2012 at 14:39
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 11.05.2012 at 14:37

Written by M C Vice on 11.05.2012 at 13:50

Virgin Black's last album (Requiem:Fortissimo).


Horribly overrate doomy gothic

Seem you're not a fan of any Gothic doom
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M C Vice
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  12.05.2012 at 02:56
Written by BoxCar Willy on 11.05.2012 at 14:31

Written by M C Vice on 11.05.2012 at 13:50

And one other, but if I say their name there'll be 20 people screaming no.


Gallhammer?





Shhhhhh. Marcel might hear you. (coincidently, that's what's on my headphones right now)
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Zealot644

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Age: 19
From: Canada

  12.05.2012 at 05:22
Quote:

Conisdering production is a big deal to you, I would advise you to stay well away from Transilvanian Hunger. If you're not a fan of that raw black metal sound then it probably won't be to your taste. Maybe try 'At The Heart Of Winter' by Immortal?


Immortal was good.

Written by Grey Wind on 11.05.2012 at 11:29

I highly recommend you try Akercocke. They play this sort of very sinister yet modern accessible blackened death metal with prog elements.
It Might do it for you since you said you love DM and Prog metal. Here's an example track off their older album - The Goat of Mendes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw0qZZdxL8U&feature=related . For more proggy stuff try a track off their newer album, "Words that go unspoken, deeds that go undone": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT0XhmrDoFQ&feature=relmfu. I Hope this was helpful!


I liked their newer stuff much more than the older. Was good.

Written by M C Vice on 11.05.2012 at 13:50

A Forest Of Stars, Darkened Nocturn Slaughtercult, Sigh, Chthonic, Ancient and Celtic Frost are my favorite black metal acts that havn't been mentioned yet. And one other, but if I say their name there'll be 20 people screaming no.
Doom: Candlemass, Isole, Ixion, Thorr's Hammer. And Virgin Black's last album (Requiem:Fortissimo).


Out of those I liked Celtic Frost.


Written by BlueMobius on 11.05.2012 at 14:22

This might help

and oh, try this.


And here I was asking for MS'er suggestions on bands that they like.
Zealot644

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From: Canada

  12.05.2012 at 18:57
Well, I guess I've got some stuff to look in to. If anybody has more suggestions, feel free to share them.

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